Right then, downgrade. Apple is making a lot of interesting choices like limiting the iPhone 15 Pro's USB-C port speed to USB3 (antiquated), downgrading the 1m USB-C cable, no longer selling the 0.8m Thunderbolt 3 cable ... all very unhelpful to the power users & loyal fanbase
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Apple Selling New 60W and 240W USB-C Woven Charge Cables
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You still need to buy the fast cable separately on the pros... Guess im saying goodbye to Apple i'm not rich and im not that dumb either....
Urgh... why...
So the newer braided 1m cable is just 60W instead of 100W...
What if I only want to carry around one charger and one cable for iPhone, iPad and Mac... What if I use the shorter 1m braided 60W cable with a 96W charger and my MacBook Pro 16inch (all hypothetically), will that damage anything or will it just charge slower?
Somehow there is this "don't use cables that don't support the W usage"-thought in my head...
So the newer braided 1m cable is just 60W instead of 100W...
What if I only want to carry around one charger and one cable for iPhone, iPad and Mac... What if I use the shorter 1m braided 60W cable with a 96W charger and my MacBook Pro 16inch (all hypothetically), will that damage anything or will it just charge slower?
Somehow there is this "don't use cables that don't support the W usage"-thought in my head...
Its so though, i've already been in both systems, both have advantages and disadvantages, and currently both systems are in crisis IMHO. Where to go? i guess it depends of the customer...
Speaking as one customer, I can not imagine why I would let the need to buy a common cable be an issue in a $1300 purchase. That is the theory. The practice is that it is a literal non-issue for me because I already have a TB 3 cable to use with my iPad Pro. (Which I had to buy separately. Where was all the ranting about that?) Apple is not handling this any better or worse than other manufacturers. The amount of digital ink being spent on this is ridiculous.
I dont get you, are you moving to android or are you being ironic?
Apple sadly has been the pioneer on many bad tendencies that the industry has sadly followed....
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In 2016, there was a USB-C to anything cable available for everything - as soon as I got the all USB-C MacBook Pro I binned USB-A. So my printers got them, my music devices got them. Ironically I use dongles on my gaming PC to convert the USB-A sockets to USB-C sockets.
You can also just use USB-C to USB-C on the PS5 though.
Hand bandwidth device have been exclusives Thunderbolt since then, at the worst, USB 3 via USB-C. USB-C only charging bricks and cables everywhere - even my lightning cable has been USB-C to Lightning for the last 4 years, it's the one way to get the faster charging.
The only things I can think of that use USB-A device i can think of that I currently have is the dongle for the Sony headset on the PS5.
Neither. I am being literal. Why would I move to Android (that would cost both money and significant time) over something as trivial as a cable? I have no idea why needing to separately purchase a cable would stop me from buying the iPhone 15 Pro that I will be getting. As a matter of transparency I admit to already owning the required cable, but if I did not I would not care. I did not care that I needed to buy a TB 3 cable to maximize the use of my iPad Pro. I have no idea why I would refuse to buy an Android phone if I still used one just because it supported USB 3.0 but only came with a 2.0 cable. You claim the you won’t buy an iPhone over the cost of a cable because you are not rich. If a $20 cable is a big deal why are you buying a $1200 phone? I have not got a clue as to how such a trivial issue has caused so much venom and outrage from so many here about something that is trivial noise.
I did the same, everything that could be USB-C became USB-C. Even my car has USB-C adapters in all the ports. The only things I’ve gotten with USB-A are battery packs and chargers because they just don’t want to sell all USB-C yet (except one battery pack, which I bought and use almost exclusively… 3 USB-C ports when charging by USB-C is great!).
MFi was a feature of the previous proprietary Lightning and 30-pin dock connectors. Because USB-C and USB PD are open, you only need proprietary cables to use more than the official maximum of 5A. If the Xiaomi Black Shark 5 Pro can ultra fast charge (over 90W) from the top-of-the-line Anker power bank (since it has 3.3-21V⎓5A PPS) and any 5A USB-C cable, there should be no reason why the comparatively lower-power iPhone should need anything proprietary. That would be completely stupid. Unfortunately it looks like Apple may only include a 3A USB-C cable with the new iPhone to cut costs.
There were plenty of rumours about Apple continuing the MFi program with USB-C, but luckily they turned out to be false. It would really have been a mess.
If the cable is not a 5A cable, you will only get a maximum of 3A. There is a chip in the cable that tells the power source that it is a 5A cable. If this chip is not present, the power source will only output up to 3A. You can probably get a braided 5A cable from a reputable manufacturer for less than Apple charges.
As well as against what they did with the MacBook, the MacBook Pro, the Mac Studio, the Mac Pro, the iPad Pro and the iPad Air.
We shouldn’t hold our breath, though. Just because they didn’t do it with those OR the AirPods Pro case, the AirPods Max doesn’t have USB-C yet. Still time for them to sneakily build in MFi lockouts!! Keep pitchforks at the ready!!
(ZOUNDS! and after those, they STILL may do it with the wired keyboards! Won’t the EU please warn Apple so that they DON’T do that? It’s a rumor, so they must speak to that, right?)
MFi is not possible with a USB-C connection. It would go against the rules of the USB-IF and everyone would have to replace even the cables they bought as I write this.As well as against what they did with the MacBook, the MacBook Pro, the Mac Studio, the Mac Pro, the iPad Pro and the iPad Air.
We shouldn’t hold our breath, though. Just because they didn’t do it with those OR the AirPods Pro case, the AirPods Max doesn’t have USB-C yet. Still time for them to sneakily build in MFi lockouts!! Keep pitchforks at the ready!!
(ZOUNDS! and after those, they STILL may do it with the wired keyboards! Won’t the EU please warn Apple so that they DON’T do that? It’s a rumor, so they must speak to that, right?)
I don't know why, but I cannot get my Anker PowerCore 24K (max 28V⎓5A) to charge from some cars' (namely General Motors) USB-C ports (my iPhone works fine.) It will start charging, then give up, then start charging again, then give up and just keep repeating that process. That happens even on some of the newest General Motors vehicles including the GMC HUMMER EV. However, I can get 45W from some of the USB-C ports in the Cadillac LYRIQ.
Yes it would but that didn’t stop people from thinking it before (and didn’t stop an EU regulator from commenting on a RUMOR of it), so I expect we’ll continue to read people suspecting that Apple’s just a few months from actually doing it. Even after EVERYTHING is USB-C!
My car was USB-A so my only choice was a 60W car adapter from Best Buy. What you’re describing makes me wonder if they’re only supporting a very narrow set of charge parameters (which, according to the USB-IF rules, they’re free to do and still call it USB-C).
Do you really think that they would do something that makes even a fancy USB-C cable you bought as I speak be obsolete almost immediately?! If that Xiaomi phone safely takes over 90W and even Apple's own MacBook Pro safely takes 100W then what's so unsafe about the measly 27W of the iPhone?!
I don’t, but I don’t doubt for a minute that there are folks out there that still believe it’s going to happen. (Actually, I think someone earlier in this very thread said that!
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Well i think at the end all this "trivial noise" can be resumed if the person is freaking rich or if it is making an effort to get a new iphone pretty much.
When one is rich they can't understand many things because it is easy for them to get new ones, on the other side when one is middle class, well you have to make an effort to get these same things.
I don't mention the poor ones (cause those don't have an option they are going android definitely).
Having said that Apple has going the way of the rich a couple of years ago, so to each his own...
The Anker unit takes whatever the power source's maximum power is. The higher-power source you use, the faster it will charge.
This is the annoyance with USB-C.
Imagine I need to go to some overnight trip and want to grab one cable. I can charge MBP during the day and iPhone when I sleep. But I grab the wrong one and it takes longer to charge.
I wish they could add a color band or something to show it either powers above a certain wattage or has USB 3.0+. I don't need all the different varieties. Just if it's modern or not.