Apple Sells Two Million Copies of Leopard in First Weekend

[iriejedi]

Seagate Free Agent Pro

Wow... the HARDDRIVE manufacturers must be thrilled. Apple employees were pimping the Backup Drives pretty hard on Friday. I bet they sold a ton of them.

picked up a 750 gig Free Agent pro at Frys' for like $349... WAY better than my Maxtor triple interface drive (silver with blue light) - the fre agent pro is so super quiet and sleek looking.... just a HD opinion for anyone wondering if they should take advantage of time machine or not.


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[Consultant]

Not saying I disagree with you, but when people use old, tired, unfunny and what-they-mistake-to-be-clever spelling variations such as "windoze" repeatedly it usually ends up being to the detriment of the point which they are trying to make. It's a matter of perception and one to be aware of. Just some friendly advice for your consideration, that's all.

Doh! Can't help it. Windows and its bad usability makes me want to glaze over and catch some zzzz...

Perhaps a word like "Zune" attempts to do the same thing? =p
http://letskilldave.com/archive/200...uch-a-great-name-after-all_2E002E002E00_.aspx
Even MS embraces the "Z"... (Well actually it's just another bad MS product).

Anyway, with 2 Million OSX Leopard sold, it is great news for Apple.

 

[hulugu]

If Apple is indeed a HARDWARE company, and they lock their OS to their hardware only, then they need to satisfy all ends of the hardware market and start making some kick-@ss hardware to fill the GAPING HOLES left in their product lines - such as in the pro-sumer/mini tower area, and the enterprise area.

Explain to me what this amorphous enterprise unit is? Is it shaped like a disk?

Apple is currently disinterested in those two markets, I presume because there's lots of competition for very little profit especially in the 'enterprise' market. Furthermore, there's a lot more to selling to 'enterprise' users than just having the right box, the XServe and XServe RAID are ridiculously well-designed boxes and are cheaper than similar offerings, and yet this great hardware gets a collective 'meh' from IT managers who can't get over the Apple symbol.
Apple doesn't want to compete in this arena because there's little future in selling pizza boxes to call centers. Dell's great at it, but they're having more and more trouble making money at it.

This is because Windows users are nerdy business people who have better, more important things to do than camp out for days on end for an OS release that will only appeal to young, hip, trendy people.

And you get the word for best stereotyping with elements of false dichotomy in the thread. Congratulations. I especially like the point that only nerdy business people do important things, while the young and hip are just faffing off apparently.

 

[Mazda 3]

Still waiting on the Up-To-Date DVD I ordered last Wednesday to arrive.

I finally got mine yesterday after ordering last Tuesday. Came in the mail 1st class envelope. No holographic case tho.

The installation went flawless on my new iMac 20" 2.4

Loving Leopard so far

 

[Consultant]

Apple stock price record high

Value of stock in Apple has reached record high today!

It is more than double the price of last year.

I wonder what news prompted this record high? Go AAPL

 

[john789]

New Macbook Coming!?!?

Value of stock in Apple has reached record high today!

It is more than double the price of last year.

I wonder what news prompted this record high? Go AAPL

Maybe the fact that we are gonna get a brand new Macbook design with alunimum casing and multi-touch track pad. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

 

[hayesk]

I wonder how many of those 2 million didn't feel positive when their installation DVD didn't work or the installation finished and all they were left with was a blue screen?

Probably not that many, as those were "power users" that installed Application Enhancer. Most users don't even know about that utility.

Edit: I got the supposed "blue screen" on one machine that appeared to be rebuilding its driver cache. However, instead of restarting, I left it. 10 minutes later, it finished restarted and all was well. I wonder if the blue screen is just a performance issue and not a crashing issue.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Have you tried to set up wireless internet on windoze machines? What about one with a new wireless card without a driver? Can you do it in 2 clicks? Good luck trying to do that with windoze.

Windoze's poor design and bad usability that require various "tweaking" and expensive, and often clueless "IT pro" is not something that the user should have to "learn" to understand or get used to.

Here are some examples:
- windoze require anti-virus and anti-spyware programs.
Installing those programs makes the machines 10% slower.
- Windoze machines slow down with installation of each
new program, even if the program is not being run.
That's due to problems with the windoze registry. With
a Mac, no matter how many apps you install, it will
not slow down the computer.
- Mac OS can run multiple apps, open multiple documents, photos, at the same time without slow downs
- Inconsistent behaviors of MS programs for even the most basic functions such as opening, saving, and closing a document.
- Running a mac = less time trying to figure out where
is the incompatible driver / hardware / software /
windoze bug, and actually more time doing things you
want to do.
- Windoze machines slow down over time inexplicably, as soon as a
few months after clean install.

The choice is clear. The windoze trolls r just shatting in their moma's basement because they know their days are numbered (before they get taken away to the insane asylums for saying windoze is better despite of all facts pointing otherwise).

And here we have an example of case and point of what the guy you quoted was saying. You clearly are only repeating crap you have read and heard but have never to no real experience in working with windows or know how little things like AV really effect the system. Lets see on my windows computer the AV software eat up I believe less than 20 megs of ram and 20 megs of VM and those mostly right as start up. After that it drops to under 5 pretty quickly.
Also you should learn that windows preforms does not degreed with each new program. The reg while a mess does not really effect things that badly. It more just an annoying spot for things to hide.

 

[Digital Skunk]

yeah you've got a point....Im just sooo eager to get my first Mac. I have a YEAR waiting to get it. First i was expecting to get it last spring when leopard was supposed to come out on sale...then it was postponed thanks to the all mighty iphone.And now that is finally out they are talking about an upgrade coming on the macbook. I mean i think this is why not masses of people switch to mac, Apple is always making their products outdated without notice. Like my friend she got a macbook back in june...and now she cant upgrade to leopard for free because you are required to have bought your computer after Oct 1. I mean why didnt apple said so before?? like microsoft did? I love apple products, and the mac is wonderful, but sometimes their marketing and product management treats its customers very unfairly. I just hope we get a macbook update soon so i can finally get rid of windows.....else i'll have to wait until the San fran macworld next year..

Honestly, she should have known better. Everyone knew since January that Apple was coming out with a new OS, and they moved the date back to October when it was originally some time in the summer, so she should have known that the OS was due when she got her machine.

And why should she get it for free when she bought her machine in June, almost four months ago? Free is absurd, and borderline greedy. I can understand buying a machine a month before Leopard debuts and paying $10 for a disc, but four months ago and free???? That's sounds more like someone wanting to whine about their own shortcomings.

Todays society never wants to take responsibility for their own mistakes or problems, always blaming someone else.

 

[Consultant]

...

Unfortunately, those facts are based personal experience, and the frustration vented by many intelligent windows users.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/18/1512243&from=rss
You think the PC Magazine editor would understand a little about windows?

Where are your facts? Do you get jealous? Are you crying because OSX is so successful and Macs are gaining market share? Well, you do know that OS X will be the inspiration of the next badly copied Windows RipoffVersionAlpha which will be released 5 or 6 years from now, so you sort of have something to live for.

Compared Mac OS side by side with windows, most reasonable people would see that Mac OS X is superior.

That's why so many copy of Leopard were sold.

 

[inkswamp]

I wonder how many of those 2 million didn't feel positive when their installation DVD didn't work or the installation finished and all they were left with was a blue screen?

"Yeah, enjoy your new OS. I'm sure the kids starving in third world nations will appreciate all 300 of those new features."

Wah-wahhhhh.

 

[GoodWatch]

Unfortunately, those facts are based personal experience, and the frustration vented by many intelligent windows users.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/18/1512243&from=rss
You think the PC Magazine editor would understand a little about windows?

Where are your facts? Do you get jealous? Are you crying because OSX is so successful and Macs are gaining market share? Well, you do know that OS X will be the inspiration of the next badly copied Windows RipoffVersionAlpha which will be released 5 or 6 years from now, so you sort of have something to live for.

Compared Mac OS side by side with windows, most reasonable people would see that Mac OS X is superior.

That's why so many copy of Leopard were sold.

Yawn...

Why measure one's own succes against the perceived failure of the oposition? You just try a little too much. And it may back-fire. I whish I could invite you to have a tour on our site. You would be amazed how 'Windoze' (hah, hah, hah) performs in a real 24/7 environment. But I'll save my breath, this is perhaps too simple for you.

 

[GoodWatch]

hmm dont see a list like crap you posted. Really your stuff screams you do not know what you are talking about. It bash M$ this and that. I just do not buy it. I have way to much experience with XP to see any of the stuff you listed being true. My post is true you just repeating crap you hear and you never got over the learning curve. So thank you for being the classic example of why Apple users get call fan boys and clueless idiots. They spit out things that they do not know what they are talking about.

While I use apple computers and OSX I get sick when complete clueless do not know what they are talking about start spitting out the classic crap they just hear. I never said it was better than OSX you put that in. I was correcting your idiotic comments.

Thank you for making all Apple users look bad.

Thank you for making - real Apple users - look good

 

[milo]

Vista is in no means a failure. Granted, I hate windoze and Vista is undoubtedly a bug ridden piece of crap, it is not a failure. Apple has 8% market share which means in the coming few years most all of 92% computers will have Vista installed. How? It comes pre-installed by the manufacturers.

At this point, Vista is selling worse than XP did on release. Many people are insisting on XP for new computer purchases. And it seems to be hurting windows market share, microsoft would probably be doing better now if they hadn't even released it at all and just kept selling XP.

I'd call that a pretty big failure. It reminds me of the old joke..."How do you make a million bucks in the stock market? Start with ten million bucks..."

Sure, but a lot more trouble than Tiger.
Tiger was better than Vista. Leopard should be compared to one thing and one thing only, and that is 10.4.10. A lot of things are better and a lot of things are worse.

Sorry, I don't buy that. Tiger did have a few problems, some fairly serious ones. Almost all the issues I've seen with Leopard are minor, if not aesthetic quibbles. And many reviews have noted how polished the release is, and that it has had fewer problems than any previous OSX release.

Am I the only who notices that PPC versions of OSX were always MUCH more stable?

It's possible. I haven't had any more crashes on my intel box than on any of the PPC boxes I've owned (less than some). It sounds like the third party hacks you're running may be hurting your stability.

Apple is always making their products outdated without notice. Like my friend she got a macbook back in june...and now she cant upgrade to leopard for free because you are required to have bought your computer after Oct 1. I mean why didnt apple said so before?? like microsoft did?

So you're saying that MS gave free Vista upgrades to anyone who bought a windows box five months before Vista shipped? Funny, I don't remember them doing that.


And once again, I have to agree with the omnipresent off-topic call for a midrange headless mac.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Yawn...

Why measure one's own succes against the perceived failure of the oposition? You just try a little too much. And it may back-fire. I whish I could invite you to have a tour on our site. You would be amazed how 'Windoze' (hah, hah, hah) performs in a real 24/7 environment. But I'll save my breath, this is perhaps too simple for you.

People take both OSes too far. Microsoft's Vista IS a failure because they wanted people to flock to it in droves, and they didn't. XP is still being offered on many systems, which is good thinking on MS's and PC vendor's parts.

Mac OS X is far superior in almost every regard, especially since it can run Windows side by side. But as many are murmuring about, the Rev A Leopard has some bugs, and there are some issues with OS X that many people have. A lot of those issues aren't remedied unless you restart your machine.

 

[Consultant]

hmm dont see a list like crap you posted. Really your stuff screams you do not know what you are talking about. It bash M$ this and that. I just do not buy it. I have way to much experience with XP to see any of the stuff you listed being true. My post is true you just repeating crap you hear and you never got over the learning curve. So thank you for being the classic example of why Apple users get call fan boys and clueless idiots. They spit out things that they do not know what they are talking about.

While I use apple computers and OSX I get sick when complete clueless do not know what they are talking about start spitting out the classic crap they just hear. I never said it was better than OSX you put that in. I was correcting your idiotic comments.

Thank you for making all Apple users look bad.

I still don't see any facts from you that disputes what I have said. All you have is personal insults and your personal feelings.

By the way, my job is in a technology firm charging >$1000 per day for my expertise. And yes, I work with windows most of the day.

 

[GoodWatch]

Mac OS X is far superior in almost every regard, especially since it can run Windows side by side.

Unless you are talking about a virtual environment, OS X can't run Windows side by side. OS X provides for a very sleek dual boot manager. That's all. You boot straight into whatever OS is installed on the extra partition. After the OS choice, OS X has nothing further to do with it. I've been using a (PC platform based) boot manager for years, could boot straight into any flavour of Windows, DOS, Linux, etc.

 

[morespce54]

Wow... the HARDDRIVE manufacturers must be thrilled. Apple employees were pimping the Backup Drives pretty hard on Friday. I bet they sold a ton of them.

OMG, that sooo true!

 

[GoodWatch]

OMG, that sooo true!

I don't know if that is true but I picked up a 500 GB LaCie last Saturday 99.95 Euro, a snip Time Machine, oh Time Machine, where are you?

 

[DanB91]

yeah you've got a point....Im just sooo eager to get my first Mac. I have a YEAR waiting to get it. First i was expecting to get it last spring when leopard was supposed to come out on sale...then it was postponed thanks to the all mighty iphone.And now that is finally out they are talking about an upgrade coming on the macbook. I mean i think this is why not masses of people switch to mac, Apple is always making their products outdated without notice. Like my friend she got a macbook back in june...and now she cant upgrade to leopard for free because you are required to have bought your computer after Oct 1. I mean why didnt apple said so before?? like microsoft did? I love apple products, and the mac is wonderful, but sometimes their marketing and product management treats its customers very unfairly. I just hope we get a macbook update soon so i can finally get rid of windows.....else i'll have to wait until the San fran macworld next year..

if u keep waiting ull never get anything

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I still don't see any facts from you that disputes what I have said. All you have is personal insults and your personal feelings.

By the way, my job is in a technology firm charging >$1000 per day for my expertise. And yes, I work with windows most of the day.

I have a hard time believe that because of the long list of things that you wrote that are complete at utter crap.


As for Vista not doing as well as XP is for a fair number of reasons. I have only seen it and minorly played with it so I do not know much about it only things I have read (I refuse to pay to upgrade the OS on my 3 year old PC unless my college gets around to providing vista it will not be until I replace my PC that I will have it)

XP was the replacement for the windows 9.x line (windows 2000 target market was businesses it was never meant to be used for the consumer computer) Going from the 9.x platform to NT is a huge change and a good upgrade so that is one reason it sold well.

Vista has deal with the fact it is replacing XP that everyone is used to and people do not like change in general. IF you look even as OSX on the user end the changes between each OS over all is fairly minor and a few new feature here and there added. Vista is a much larger change in how everyone looks and it is new. That will slow people down.

Vista really does not bring that much new stuff to the table. It is still windows NT. So not much motivation there. Plus computers are lasting longer these days. It used to be after about 3 years a computer was started to really feel it age and having trouble keeping up. Now they are lasting 5+ years and a lot of the computers older than 3 years can not run Vista.

Lastly most of the time most OS updates are from new computer sells. Again computers are lasting longer so that reduces sells. Chances are good my PC will not be upgraded to vista until I replace it and then the current one more than likely will become a linux box/ server for me.

 

[digitalbiker]

Do you have another OS on one of the other HDs in you macPro? I get this every now and then when my machine is searching for which drive to start from... the mac drive, the windows drive or the CD. I fixed it but just setting the boot drive.

That was the problem! I just selected the boot drive again in System preferences, re-booted and everything is back to normal. Strange though because I know that the system disk had been selected before. I guess it sort of de-selected itself after the update.

Anyway thanks for the help. I should have tried that first but since it was booting from the correct disk I just assumed that it was already selected.

 

[whooleytoo]

this may seem dumb but how many iPhones did apple sell in the first weekend?

Which raises an interesting point - since the iPhone is based on Leopard, are iPhone sales included in the Leopard sales figures?

 

[digitalbiker]

Which raises an interesting point - since the iPhone is based on Leopard, are iPhone sales included in the Leopard sales figures?

I would say No!. The iPhone OS is derived from OS X, not necessarily Leopard 10.5 and buying an iPhone with a system OS is a lot different than buying a Mac which runs Leopard specifically and includes Leopard 10.5 install disks.

 

[sulhaq]

A valid point, many manufacturers will load Windows on there machines. They still have to sell those machines to customers though. Whilst a number of large companies will but them, fewer consumers (particularly those looking for a laptop) are interested.

Although you are right in the sense that after hearing Vista nightmares from everybody, few people want to buy laptops with it pre-installed, the fact of the matter is most modern laptops don't have an XP option. And since most people are clueless about OS X they will have no choice but to buy a Vista laptop. Since most big name companies are not even offering XP on their machines. Not only that, if you downgrade yourself the hardware installed has no drivers available for XP!