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Apple Sends Mac Pro Posters to Journalists: 'The Computer We Were Insane to Build'
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Yes. When it's all said and done, the Mac Pro will deliver more overall processing power to applications.
Remember, when evaluating cost, you need to look at the full package - hardware and software. I strongly believe that OS X Mavericks kicks the living $#&% out of a Windows PC any day. As for Linux... that depends on what it's doing.
I wonder if an IBM server wouldn't cost more than a Mac Pro with a lower spec.
There's no denying that it's a nicely designed machine, and it's pretty much what I'd expect out of Apple. Sleek, stylish, and efficient.
But as far as pure computational horsepower goes, it's squarely in the middle of the pack. It's not the slowest, and it's not the fastest. It's merely good. This wouldn't be a problem with a traditional workstation PC, where you can buy entry level, then upgrade later as you need it. But with the Pro's proprietary design and lack of upgradeable parts, it means people will have to spend more over time to keep a Mac Pro studio up to date without any real benefits for the costs.
sure. But you can only use apple drives which will be marked up an extra 500 for no reason.
User accessible does not mean user replaceable.
On a side note, did anyone else notice why apple couldn't introduce dual ssd's on this thing? Looks like their is space exactly where the second gpu sits. If they did, I'd buy in a heartbeat. But I don't want drive enclosures outside connected via TB. What's the point of a quiet tower when the externals will be loud. At least a case muffles them.
Say both machines are running the full Adobe suite, how will Mavericks outdo the Windows machine?
Go through the Mac Pro web page on apple and count all the things that say are user accessible or replaceable.
Yeah, CUDA's might be great now, but it's ultimately destined for failure. It's one vendor supplying one proprietary API for one specific brand of GPUs. As long as its the best option available, people will continue to use it. But as soon as OpenCL catches up, everyone will drop it like a bad habit.
Just look at the iPhone 5S. Dual cores outperforming quad-core Android phones because the software leverages that. The Android markets boast "QUAD CORE!!!", but the software can't take advantage of it properly. That's Apple's advantage, as their OS's do leverage the architecture to its fullest.
OS X Mavericks will *scream!* on this machine.
Apple says it's user serviceable. And change what again like they did before? pcie storage is still very new, Apple is on the first generation for a given machine.
Then again, Open CL came in 2009 and it's been 4 years and it hasn't really gained traction yet. Adobe seems to have in their plans for the near future to include more Open CL support but we'll see.
so you're saying macs are more expensive with less power and less tinker_ability than other options out there?
i'm pretty sure everyone is well aware of this already since it's been stated a billion times before about every mac ever made.
do the same thing for the old mac pro.
dunno, i'm really not going to sit here and argue about it because i know you don't know and i know i don't know.. so what's there to argue about other than me pointing out that you're saying things as fact when you don't actually know what you're talking about?
They are focusing too much on the looks instead of the internals. Just look at at the iMac and the Retina MacBook. They made the iMac thinner and removed the graphics card for internal graphics. If you want one, you'll have to get the top model + it's a mobile version....
Now if they would do the same with their portable computer lineup...
The same what? Make your laptop look like a tar-dipped paper towel roll? I think not! Current lineup has more power than you'll ever use already. The Mac Pro and your laptop run the same software, so you've got all you need.
You know , as a flagship, this will boost mac sales across the range, which is a good thing. If it works as well. It certainly looks good. I just dont know how I am going to get my square hard disk into that round hole
It is a fact because Apple's website says what is replaceable and what is not. How is that not knowing? What the last mac pro allowed you to change? Well, let's see... You could replace the daughter board to make it dual-processor later on if you needed it, you can replace the GPU, memory, multiple drives that used standards, you could change the processor(s) when you need better performance, all of which many people did. The new Mac pro (as stated by apple) = drive (proprietary just like their mSata in 2012-2013 rMBP, MBA) and memory. That is all factual information, not made up.
Ironically, I'm a fanboy. And I want to love this thing and with no paths to upgrade things later on. And I want to accept it like I did the rMBP, but this is a workstation and those need change. My only real compliant is the inability to add another SSD drive.