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Apple Set to Deploy FairPlay Digital Rights Management on iPad eBooks?
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I think you'll find that fairplay DRM is all to do with Apple control not the publishers
One thing you forgot. The DRM has to continue to work "forever" or for at least as long as a paper book would last, a few hundred years. So if there is any server involved that keep track of the DRM they have to have a trust that is funded for (say) 500 years. I think this means it can't be remotely managed or tracked.
Oh, and yet another thing. The DRM has to expire when the copyright expires. n other words the DRM "self destructs". Because real books eventually enter the public domain and can be copied.
How will we find that out? We have evidence to the contrary in that Apple got the music industry to drop DRM. And this rumor gives the option for DRM to the publishers.
Fairplay is a complete NIGHTMARE!!!
This last weekend I experienced the pain that so many have expeirenced with Apples Fairplay DRM's. I had purchased a imac that had some really great music already on it when I bought it. Some was purchased from Apple and some was not. I added my music to the mix.
Well all of a sudden do to deauthorization I can no longer play some of the songs. Fine! But there is no option to delete the unathorized music and I have no idea which are authorized and which are not. Several of the songs I already owned and deleted my copy instead of the one on the Imac.
I spent hours this weekend trying to find a soulution with no real success.
I will never buy another song from Itunes again until they completely remove DRM protection.
This last weekend I experienced the pain that so many have expeirenced with Apples Fairplay DRM's. I had purchased a imac that had some really great music already on it when I bought it. Some was purchased from Apple and some was not. I added my music to the mix.
Well all of a sudden do to deauthorization I can no longer play some of the songs. Fine! But there is no option to delete the unathorized music and I have no idea which are authorized and which are not. Several of the songs I already owned and deleted my copy instead of the one on the Imac.
I spent hours this weekend trying to find a soulution with no real success.
I will never buy another song from Itunes again until they completely remove DRM protection.
and that's why I buy all of my music from amazon, plus it has a small app that places your music in itunes. No stress, no hassle, and most of the time cheaper than itunes.
MOst ePub devices use Adobe Content Server, and thus are interoperable. The exception so far is the Nook, but as far as I am aware they have submitted their scheme back to Adobe, who are wrapping it back into Adobe Digital Editions (and this all being well, existing readers could also use that scheme, just requiring a firmware update).
Amazon are unusual in that their store & reader are limited (I think you can, with a slight hack, use other mobipocket secured files).
I'd be more interested if the iPad allows use of ADE secured ePub's, or if Apple allow apps that can use ADE ePubs's - if so the n personally that is of far more interest to me than Apple's own brand DRM.
I agree with you and have no problems buying ebooks. The problem is that the publishers WILL try to rip you off. First way they are going to try is by locking a book you buy to you. You'll no longer be able to read it and give it to a friend to read. Second is that you won't be able to sell the book to anyone. Amazon currently has tons of used books for sale, often at a discount. Final reason (and probably more Apple) is that the DRM books will only work with an Apple reader.
Show me a DRM scheme that will work across any device and I can transfer ownership and I might get behind it.
I'd like it if you were correct, but I haven't seen any evidence - it'd be great if you'd provide some. Here's several stories, located using Google, that state Hulu will be charging for content. The articles that were earlier in the year did not specifically mention 2010, but as we got further into 2009 News Corp. got more specific.
Hulu Officially Charging for Content in 2010
Soon, you'll have to pay for Hulu
Hulu to charge for content, but needs to sweeten the deal
News Corp. COO sees Hulu charging fees for access
1. Unlike music, most people really don't share books with each other; obviously there are exceptions, but music, that's a different story. I like a lot of music that my daughters like, and vice versa, and I don't even mind some of their music that I don't like to experience it once or twice, but I can guarantee you, I won't read any book my daughters would read and vice versa.
This "control" by publishers is a "red herring" (or as Alfred Hitchcock would, a McGuffin) -- lots of chatter about it, but it won't affect the appeal of the iPad.
2. Having said that, do you really think the average iPad user is buying it for reading books. Heck now. It's being used for surfing the web while traveling, and surfing the web for free (where there's wi-fi, which is becoming more and more ubiquitous); and for $15/month with NO contract via 3G where wi-fi ain't. Right now, at LAX, I am charged about $5.00/hour to surf the web from T-Mobile; in 90 days, $15 for a month, and I'm sure the clock starts ticking the moment log on, so I will get the full 30 days.
The iPad is going to fly off the shelves. My only problem: do I get the wi-fi edition only in 60 days, or do I wait another 30 days to get the 3G + wi-fi model.
This "control" by publishers is a "red herring" (or as Alfred Hitchcock would, a McGuffin) -- lots of chatter about it, but it won't affect the appeal of the iPad.
2. Having said that, do you really think the average iPad user is buying it for reading books. Heck now. It's being used for surfing the web while traveling, and surfing the web for free (where there's wi-fi, which is becoming more and more ubiquitous); and for $15/month with NO contract via 3G where wi-fi ain't. Right now, at LAX, I am charged about $5.00/hour to surf the web from T-Mobile; in 90 days, $15 for a month, and I'm sure the clock starts ticking the moment log on, so I will get the full 30 days.
The iPad is going to fly off the shelves. My only problem: do I get the wi-fi edition only in 60 days, or do I wait another 30 days to get the 3G + wi-fi model.
We'll so how that goes. Didn't Cory Doctorow of EFF already try to publish his books without DRM and was told he couldn't ??
I'd be interested to see how this goes when the iPad comes out. I'm sure Apple is not thrilled to be instituting more DRM. I think the eventual goal is to remove it completely. It's the content creators (big media and big publishing) that want it.
the industry didn't want it in the early days...
DRM could have been implemented in a way that didn't lock the content to a device (or series of devices)
It is very naive to think or believe that Apple made the music industry drop DRM.
the industry didn't want it in the early days...
Huh?
That would be impossible.
Conspiracy theories aside, all public evidence seems to be to the contrary.
UK distance selling regs
Chinese labour laws
stock options
Nokia/Kodak licensing
....
I have to laugh at all this chatter about books. Seriously, how many books have "we" read this year. Seriously. When I'm on an airplane, folks are playing games on their computers, not reading books. In the security line of 200 folks at LAX, one person -- one person -- had the Kindle. Everyone else with a mobile device was surfing the net, texting, or talking on the phone.
As for me, I'm getting tired of manipulating a netbook/laptop computer with a huge display that flips up; talk about being unbalanced while a) standing in a security line; b) reading in bed; c) sitting on the couch watching NASCAR racing.
Yeah, this thing is going to fly off the shelves. The wait is killing me. (By the way, one car payment will pay for the iPad, and something tells me I will enjoy the iPad a whole lot more than the car.)
As for me, I'm getting tired of manipulating a netbook/laptop computer with a huge display that flips up; talk about being unbalanced while a) standing in a security line; b) reading in bed; c) sitting on the couch watching NASCAR racing.
Yeah, this thing is going to fly off the shelves. The wait is killing me. (By the way, one car payment will pay for the iPad, and something tells me I will enjoy the iPad a whole lot more than the car.)
Well since there aren't any yet - iPads or iPad users - we really don't know that do we? I think magazines (especially ones like this Mag+) will have a very big appeal. I think the iPad has great potential.
What are the odds that it won't be possible to read third-party DRM-free ePubs with iBooks?
I think the odds are very low, meaning you'll most likely be able to read DRM-free ebooks in the ePub format on your iPad.
I think Apple's stance on the matter will be very similar to their policy on non-DRM mp3's on the iPod. You were always allowed to play unrestricted mp3's on your iPod, no matter where you got them from.
The DRM was a demand from the (stupid) music labels, who didn't feel comfortable selling their music online otherwise.
If I remember correctly, all the folks that attended the rollout of the iPad and the presentation given by Steve Jobs on January 26/27 -- whenever it was -- were all brought into the room next door and given an iPad to play.
If I recall correctly, no one read a book while in that room. They "looked" at a book, but they didn't read the book.
And yes, magazines, newspapers, etc., will be a big player. But that content is generally useless after 24 hours, except to historians.
It's going to be a) surfing the net; b) the apps; and c) eventually VOIP that sells the iPad.
If I recall correctly, no one read a book while in that room. They "looked" at a book, but they didn't read the book.
And yes, magazines, newspapers, etc., will be a big player. But that content is generally useless after 24 hours, except to historians.
It's going to be a) surfing the net; b) the apps; and c) eventually VOIP that sells the iPad.
1) It is unfortunate that Apple is crippling the iPad like this.
2) I don't have a problem paying authors and publishers for their work but I do not like the destruction of the used book market and hiking of the prices that the publishers are trying to do with DRM.
3) There is a tremendous amount of wonderful content that is out of copyright. Put that first on your reading list. By the time you read all several million of those books you can decide if modern DRMed content is for you...
2) I don't have a problem paying authors and publishers for their work but I do not like the destruction of the used book market and hiking of the prices that the publishers are trying to do with DRM.
3) There is a tremendous amount of wonderful content that is out of copyright. Put that first on your reading list. By the time you read all several million of those books you can decide if modern DRMed content is for you...
I agree Garion. But I wonder if it will work in the iBook app itself or will you need to use a separate one? I think there already a bunch for the iPhone/iPod Touch. I guess we'll find out when it ships.