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The Apple TV was announced and released before the original iPhone. I can't stand the smugness of Dedui, but he normally has his facts right.
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Apple Set to Earn $1 Trillion in Revenue From iOS Ecosystem By Middle of 2017
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Uh?
The iPhone is far from being the only profitable business of the firm. At the contrary, every sector Apple competes in is profitable, from Services, which are enormously up YOY, to the Apple Watch (it's the size of Rolex), to Beats hardware to the iPad to obviously the Mac. Not to mention the billion-dollar business just launched with the AirPods.
Contrast this to Google, Facebook that get >95% revenues from the advertising trick. Everything else they do is losing them vast amounts of money, just check out Alphabet X' impressive list of high profile failures.
The iPhone is huge and unmatched, so all the other revenue streams look small in comparison, but having a huge and unmatched business is not a liability, it's a plus.
It means he made an app that doesn't sell well and is advertising it now in a pathetic attempt at using sympathy for profit.
Using logic against people not understand technology or business (when they think they do) doesn't work. It is fun, however, to see the gears in their head try to move.
Right now I think what is going on is that people are still staying in the Apple ecosystem because no one else has gotten their act together better than Apple. I say that as someone who has fled the Apple ecosystem and won't be coming back. For too many people - what are their options? Buy a Surface, and a Pixel? The best of both camps outside of Apple, right?
Well - if you like a seamless ecosystem that "just works", Apple is still the game. I'm more adventurous. I have a XPS 13 running Ubuntu (Developer Edition) that is now probably going to be my main computer outside of when I do VR development (seriously, this thing is amazing), etc., etc. I use a Galaxy S7. Yeah, everything works, and works well for what I do - but I would never seriously contemplate recommending this to anyone outside of my developer friends. Not to mention I still have to open the accursed Macbook to do iOS development (grumble, grumble).
Apple might be stagnant, Apple might be going downhill - but their competitors still don't have their act together. I could go all Microsoft - but where's the phone that I could replace my Android with? I could go all Google - but where's the laptop that I could replace my XPS 13 with? Until that happens, iOS and Apple will continue along until someone comes in to disrupt them. Hey, it can and will probably happen. Just not imminently. After all, no one thought that the Windows monopoly could ever be busted. Not even the government did that. Until iOS and the iPhone came along out of "nowhere" with its App Store.
Apple is getting complacent. That isn't death ... yet. Death comes when the next disruptive technology comes that makes our iPhones and Smartphones look like Windows 95 PCs. It will happen. And I don't think Apple will be doing the disruption with Cook at the helm.
Well - if you like a seamless ecosystem that "just works", Apple is still the game. I'm more adventurous. I have a XPS 13 running Ubuntu (Developer Edition) that is now probably going to be my main computer outside of when I do VR development (seriously, this thing is amazing), etc., etc. I use a Galaxy S7. Yeah, everything works, and works well for what I do - but I would never seriously contemplate recommending this to anyone outside of my developer friends. Not to mention I still have to open the accursed Macbook to do iOS development (grumble, grumble).
Apple might be stagnant, Apple might be going downhill - but their competitors still don't have their act together. I could go all Microsoft - but where's the phone that I could replace my Android with? I could go all Google - but where's the laptop that I could replace my XPS 13 with? Until that happens, iOS and Apple will continue along until someone comes in to disrupt them. Hey, it can and will probably happen. Just not imminently. After all, no one thought that the Windows monopoly could ever be busted. Not even the government did that. Until iOS and the iPhone came along out of "nowhere" with its App Store.
Apple is getting complacent. That isn't death ... yet. Death comes when the next disruptive technology comes that makes our iPhones and Smartphones look like Windows 95 PCs. It will happen. And I don't think Apple will be doing the disruption with Cook at the helm.
Most of the people on this forum have this false sense of entitlement, almost like Apple owes them something. They complain about not getting new mac pros and that every new iPhone isn't earth shattering and the products they release don't cater to their very unique specific demands.
Apple is a company that runs for profit, end of story, if ditching all computers is what makes them more profitable then I promise you they will do that. Put yourself in the shoes of a CEO, you owe it to your company and your shareholders to make the most amount of money possible because at the end of the day that's all that matters.
Apple is a company that runs for profit, end of story, if ditching all computers is what makes them more profitable then I promise you they will do that. Put yourself in the shoes of a CEO, you owe it to your company and your shareholders to make the most amount of money possible because at the end of the day that's all that matters.
If it were as easy as changing socks you'd have a point, if a company stops making your favorite socks, get another brand end of story. But with platforms is more complex, there are years of software purchases, years of training, years of music/itunes curation, years of iPhoto curation etc. There is a lot at stake. Basically Apple is implicitly asking the customer to put their trust and build a mutual relationship, this is why you can't just reduce it to a company making profits, if there is no trust there is no loyal userbase to sustain the ecosystem, and that harms profits, it's very simple.
Even thinner, consider their source of revenue comes from peddling a product nobody wants (ads) and that it could (in theory at least) be defeated with a simple ad blocker.
Hence Apple is understandably following the money and shifting more resources away from the Mac, or so it seems.
Look, I am honestly fine with fewer updates to the Mac line, as long as whatever new hardware does get released is rock-solid stable and at least somewhat friendly to professionals who create all these apps and other content. The jury is still out with the recent polarizing MacBook Pro release. We will have a lot more to go on with the next updates to the other Macs, specifically desktops. I'm looking at you, Pro and Mini.
Look, I am honestly fine with fewer updates to the Mac line, as long as whatever new hardware does get released is rock-solid stable and at least somewhat friendly to professionals who create all these apps and other content. The jury is still out with the recent polarizing MacBook Pro release. We will have a lot more to go on with the next updates to the other Macs, specifically desktops. I'm looking at you, Pro and Mini.
Xcode is very effecient and can run pretty well on even older Mac. My 2007 iMac can still run as Xcode server to create builds and stuff. Even any MacBook Air can run Xcode just fine.
Great summary.
Basically, the latest tech on a bulky and ugly device that is hard to carry around in a mobile age, no matter if it's will be use by the majority or cost efficient or not. However, as it turned out, 3/4 of the people on here is like 1/100000000 of the actual Apple users out there.
Having elderly parents, one being computer literate and the other not, the Apple ecosystem has been a lifesaver.
Started with a Mac and when they got iPhones it was easy as pie.
Want to go to the internet? Oh, I know how to do that! The icon is right there, Safari.
Want to go to email? Oh, the postage stamp. Mail!
Ect. Ect. Ect.
Actually they made $ 50 and sent me $ 35. To be displayed in the App Store costs $ 99 developer program fee (per year). In total I lost $ 64 last year to Apple. But whenever I want to take down my app I get some upset emails from avid customers who can't download it anymore. Might still take it down this year, to spend $ 60+ every year just to maintain a great (but unknown) app seems ludicrous.
After all, the App Store is for the big players with the big marketing money. Never heard of a successful app that didn't invest at least a couple of thousands $$ into marketing.
A billion dollar valuation is hard. A billion dollars in revenue is harder. A trillion dollars in revenue is the iPhone. Posted on Twitter.
Android is the dominate mobile OS:
It only seems like Apple are doing well because the Android OS is shared among many hardware developers. Unfortunately, unlike with Windows, each hardware developer can slather their own creations all over Android, so in most incarnations Android is a horrific UX.
Eventually Apple will descend into mediocrity as they attempt to preserve their almighty margins. iPhones already lag in hardware technology, and the gap will only widen. Unless Apple's management team is replaced iDevices will eventually be like Macs are today: overpriced, underperforming, and hostile to loyal users.
That is demonstrably untrue. Apple have utterly abandoned the professional computer users who used to drop hundreds of thousands on Mac hardware.
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It's just sad that such a rich company is incapable of multi-tasking. It betrays a lack of imaginative leadership at Apple.
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We want high performance affordable Macs again, like they used to be not very long ago. "Affordable" meaning not cheap but high in value.
A file system on an iPad would rock but if you're afraid of one you don't have to use it. I'm not sure where you get the inch thick idea from, I guess since we criticize Apple's purportedly professional Macs for being unnecessarily thin you wrongly believe we want everything thick.
The iPad is one of the few devices left which IMO needs to be even thinner and lighter. The iPhone is plenty thin, it just needs smaller bezels and perhaps one iPhone model could be a bit thicker to house a better camera module. A very large swath of the market would rather the focus shift from Thinner to longer battery life and increased durability. Durability could well be the next "arms race" among smartphone makers. Imagine if you didn't have to handle your smartphone like a delicate flower, if a case were only needed to prevent cosmetic scuffing. 20 years from now I will be shocked if everyone still carries around delicate hardware.
None of those criticisms mean Apple are doomed. That's just ridiculous. I haven't heard anyone seriously say Apple are in danger of bankruptcy since the 90s.
The reason iOS on the iPad doesn't have a file system goes back to Steve jobs. This is one of the not so rare instances in which cook is continuing to follow jobs leads and gets criticism.
I would think Apple with its 60,000 employees is capable of multi-tasking, just not the way YOU want them to.
