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You have some good points there I had not thought of / did not know about. I have never owned a Samsung or really looked much at their devices. I do still think though that we seem to wait a long time for Apple to produce devices, with great fanfare, than seem for the most part to have technology that has already been implemented elsewhere. I wouldn't say they are skating to where the puck is going to be. However, they do absolutely refine and make some lovely products, and that is why I buy Apple stuff, and not their competitors'.
 
you know Qi is **** and slow right.

Yup, so I scratch my head as to why put in slow and **** tech now, when they could have put it in 5 years ago when it wasn't considered that slow. But good point, I still don't understand why they put it in..


And then their is air power, what is the point.. shouldn't it be called pad power right now... as it doesn't allow for any distance... Air would imply that there is some air between. Imagine if the Air pods could only play music by touching a cable. You would be like.. WtF!
 
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Yup, so I scratch my head as to why put in slow and **** tech now, when they could have put it in 5 years ago when it wasn't considered that slow. But good point, I still don't understand why they put it in..


And then their is air power, what is the point.. shouldn't it be called pad power right now... as it doesn't allow for any distance... Air would imply that there is some air between. Imagine if the Air pods could only play music by touching a cable. You would be like.. WtF!
Somebody should try if induction cooking hob would charge that faster. :D
 
I have a feeling it’s a combination of the Plus size scaled resolution and the ‘lower power cores’ effecting performance. Having said that, it’s probably mainly iOS 11 as that’s even laggy on my 6s as well and has been talked about in the forums. Apple needs many point updates to get this back to at least iOS 10.3.3 levels.

Interesting. Maybe you're right. I will do some more research…

I am currently running iOS 11 on a 128 GB iPhone 6. I think some things feel faster (animations) and a little more responsive (entering passcode when unlocking for example) and some things a little bit slower (loading apps and stuff in apps), but overall I think it works pretty well compared to iOS 10.3.3.
 
It also took them 5 years to adopt OLED. I suppose having the "courage" to jack up the price $350 for such ancient tech is some kind of business innovation even if it's not technical innovation.
Good point. Ther other point is that apple customers seem to be willing to pay the price that apple charges in droves to drive the worth of the company up toward 1 trillion dollars. Doesn't take much "courage" to see that apple knows its' customer base.

Sorry...besides the OLED and the bandage of FaceID because they couldn't pull off TouchID, what is different about the X compared to the 8? Gimmicky software for kids like the animojis?

If there actually is new tech in there, I must have missed it during the keynote when I was laughing at Timmy and the animojiacs.
Apple doesn't implement new tech, surprised you didn't convey that in your post. They take what is out there and come up with a better mousetrap. They appeared to have succeeded in the iphone x. Don't blame apple for waiting on oled as long as possible; they didn't want to deal with burn-in and pink screen. And even now, the jury is out to how customers will react to less than perfect screens.

Well, only Apple seems to have trouble designing the in- and externals these days. Most mid level phones already uses Amoled. Other flagship phones have the same or better specs for far more reasonable prices. Everybody is copying everybody. The only thing is that Apple copy machines are slower but charge you a premium.
If by "trouble" you mean class-leading designs that are heads and shoulders above the competition, totally agree.
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Not saying it isn't a great phone, but Apple is sure desperate to try and convince people it's not the same as the 7.
No different than what Samsung did with the Note 8, where they were trying to convince their customers they learned from their mistakes, gave away coupons, freebies and discounts. Samsung was "desperate", Apple is doing what any manufacturer should do, market their product.
 
Good point. Ther other point is that apple customers seem to be willing to pay the price that apple charges in droves to drive the worth of the company up toward 1 trillion dollars. Doesn't take much "courage" to see that apple knows its' customer base.


Apple doesn't implement new tech, surprised you didn't convey that in your post. They take what is out there and come up with a better mousetrap. They appeared to have succeeded in the iphone x. Don't blame apple for waiting on oled as long as possible; they didn't want to deal with burn-in and pink screen. And even now, the jury is out to how customers will react to less than perfect screens.


If by "trouble" you mean class-leading designs that are heads and shoulders above the competition, totally agree.
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No different than what Samsung did with the Note 8, where they were trying to convince their customers they learned from their mistakes, gave away coupons, freebies and discounts. Samsung was "desperate", Apple is doing what any manufacturer should do, market their product.
:rolleyes: You should work at Apple. You always seems to know to give things a twist at the cost of consumers and focus on profits first.
 
:rolleyes: You should work at Apple. You always seems to know to give things a twist at the cost of consumers and focus on profits first.
Touché, I thought you were a Samsung rep. :) But seriously how does one judge a successful coMpany? Should it be judged on YOUR opinion of them one that doesn’t own any :apple: product , or how well the company in the eyes of their customers, mgmt, shareholders and board?
 
Touché, I thought you were a Samsung rep. :) But seriously how does one judge a successful coMpany? Should it be judged on YOUR opinion of them one that doesn’t own any :apple: product , or how well the company in the eyes of their customers, mgmt, shareholders and board?
I've the laters i7 iMac, iPhone, appletv and iPad. I used to be very happy with my Apple gear. But since 5 years or so the cracks came in... buggy software, slooooooowwwww innovation and ricing prices. Some day it will bite back at them and I hope it will be with the iPhone 8. The iPhone X should be priced at the level of the iPhone 8 now and the iPhone 8, plus where the 7, plus are right now. They will still make billions of profit. I think they would make more profit then keeping the pricing strategy they're in now. Too bad, I’ve seen lots of my friends going to the other side and they don’t regret it.
 
I've the laters i7 iMac, iPhone, appletv and iPad. I used to be very happy with my Apple gear. But since 5 years or so the cracks came in... buggy software, slooooooowwwww innovation and ricing prices. Some day it will bite back at them and I hope it will be with the iPhone 8. The iPhone X should be priced at the level of the iPhone 8 now and the iPhone 8, plus where the 7, plus are right now. They will still make billions of profit. I think they would make more profit then keeping the pricing strategy they're in now. Too bad, I’ve seen lots of my friends going to the other side and they don’t regret it.
We have differing interpretations of what constitutes innovation. But I don’t see the competition has any better innovation.

I do agree that software has bugs, software always does regardless of platform.

As far as the future one guess is as good as another.
 
"iOS 11 Built-in" reason 9,10 and 11. Plenty of 64-bit goodness there.
 
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