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That is complex because there are two article reasons! One is hard headed IT Managers complaining about Apple this or that. The second it would put out the current supplier and support don't know anything about/supporting Apple.

Plus economics have change businesses IT drastically! Says Microsoft has drastically changed the way Microsoft Server fees are being charged to businesses. Now most businesses went to Linux servers and now allow bring your computer. Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot of Server fees!

I wasn't really posing a question as such, I know full well why Apple doesn't make a dent in the Enterprise. Microsoft and their partners have many excellent tools for managing PC's & servers. I manage over 70,000 PC's and around 10,000 servers using Microsoft tools and services. You can't really do much with a Mac.

Then there's applications, or lack of for a Mac. Most vendors show little interest in supporting OS X. It's dominated by Windows and this just isn't going to ever change.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Macs, but they simply have no real place in the Enterprise.

Most businesses are not moving to Linux. There are far more Linux tools and appliences available which have replaced some Windows Servers, but with the adoption of cloud computing, centralisation & virtualization, Windows Server is as healthy as it's ever been.
 
I wasn't really posing a question as such, I know full well why Apple doesn't make a dent in the Enterprise. Microsoft and their partners have many excellent tools for managing PC's & servers. I manage over 70,000 PC's and around 10,000 servers using Microsoft tools and services. You can't really do much with a Mac.

You haven't intergraded a Mac into an Open Directory. Plus with the rise of smart NAS devices the closed Microsfoft only Domain ate slowly dying on the vine. Sure miost users in the office want something that can email, share files, and get their Work done. Most of them don't even know what version of Windwos they are using. Plus you never delt with having to put a new Mac into a Windows Domain in the last three years!

Most businesses are not moving to Linux. There are far more Linux tools and appliences available which have replaced some Windows Servers, but with the adoption of cloud computing, centralisation & virtualization, Windows Server is as healthy as it's ever been.

Microsoft Has really screwed the golden goose with the new server fees for modern Domains! Small businesses all over are moving from Domain 2008 to their most fimilar Linux servers. It is like this all over the place in small businesses. IT in only a Windows world will make your job obsolete!

I urge any young people to get Linux certifications now because you want to get a job just with Microsoft credentials you need lyrics professionals in Linux domain stuff if you want to survive in today's world!
 
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Yes, Apple has conducted the largest corporate share buy back in history. But as of right now it looks like Icahn's advice was correct and that Apple was too tentative.

Icahn advice only mattered much for him. Because Icahn owns so much Apple stock, the effects of a stock buyback matter much more for him than for typical shareholders. It's more about opportunity cost: yes, Apple could return money to shareholders... at the cost of other projects. Not many companies have billions to work with. It's a tremendous opportunity. And, for the most part, Apple is using the opportunity for financial tinkering.
 
Icahn advice only mattered much for him. Because Icahn owns so much Apple stock, the effects of a stock buyback matter much more for him than for typical shareholders. It's more about opportunity cost: yes, Apple could return money to shareholders... at the cost of other projects. Not many companies have billions to work with. It's a tremendous opportunity. And, for the most part, Apple is using the opportunity for financial tinkering.

Sorry but you are wrong on so many levels. We know what Apple spends its cash hoard on. They put it in the line item in their financial statements. They take their $175 billion and they have bought the securities of other companies and governments. That money is in the hands of other companies and governments and they are using it for their projects. Apple has taken an IOU from them to have the cash returned at a later date with very modest interest.

The money that Apple spends on projects is not part of the money they have invested in corporate securities. Icahn is saying stop parking tons of cash in other companies. Let it go back to the shareholders. If Apple wants to keep $50 billion for a rainy day, fine. But in what world does it need $175 billion? And keep in mind that many billions more are coming in almost a completely inevitable fashion. The billions are pouring in every week. The only rainy day is money raining on them.
 
Right now, the future of Apple stock really depends on what Samsung unveils with the upcoming Galaxy S 6 cellphone. If it doesn't live up to what analysts predict, expect Apple stock to go even higher because people will realize that the iPhone 6 and 6+ is the better choice.
 
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