dogslobber
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Network shares seems to be the initial thing. Who knows what else? Anything requiring root daemon startup authentication? Perhaps email tcook and ask him?
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Apple Shares Fix for File Sharing Issues Following macOS High Sierra Security Update
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My understanding is that the fix disables any root access that exists, via the temp fix or otherwise. You will proactively have to reestablish root access if you actually want it (the temp fix, as we're calling it, is actually the standard method that is normally required.) For almost everybody, that's a no.
Hagrid
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My son is looking for an internship this summer, looks like there will be an opening 😉
Diving Capers
macrumors 6502
The cool aid is strong with you.
“give it a rest” LMAO..... you should get over yourself buddy.
Again, get over yourself.
So what if someone has never written a line of code in their life? People who pay premium prices for their devices expect a premium product, that includes hardware, software, customer service and support.
Why are you IGNORING the fact that the issue was first mentioned two weeks ago? Apple only rolled out a desperate fix once the media started reporting it.
People like you who accept inferior products and services as PREMIUM are the reason Apple are on a downwards trend in quality, design and innovation.
In the not so distant past, Apple had amazing designs that didn’t sacrifice function. Nowadays it’s mostly form over function.
They are too preoccupied with being a fashion statement when they should focus on continuing with the philosophy that made them a great company in the first place.
It was Jobs who built the foundation that Cook is now abusing.
It is not Cook who made Apple a trillion dollar company... the iPhone did that.
If Apple were serious about the Mac, then they wouldn’t have needed to apologize for not releasing new hardware. If a company did indeed take their products seriously then it wouldn’t take them YEARS to realize they had backed themselves into a “thermal corner” with the MacPro.
Their knee jerk reaction was the iMac Pro, which is nothing more that an oversized, overpriced non portable laptop. It’s kind of like one of those Razer gaming monster laptops, without it actually being a laptop.
You even need an adapter to connect your brand new iPhone to your brand new MacBook , this seemingly small thing shows how disconnected they are from what made Apple so good in the first place.
You can keep making excuses and apologize on Apple’s behalf all you want, but it doesn’t change the very real fact that quality is no longer what it once was at Apple.
This security issue is just a small issue in the overall picture, it is one more symptom in the trillion dollar company that is slowly turning into the next Blackberry.
I am able to enjoy my Apple products without believing they are deities that do no wrong.
I'm waiting for the patch of the patch of the patch... giving in 2 weeks....
aside from that: unless you even enabled the option to type in user name at log in screen - you are fine. in my set up you can select one of the 2 users and the only thing you can enter is a password...
aside from that: unless you even enabled the option to type in user name at log in screen - you are fine. in my set up you can select one of the 2 users and the only thing you can enter is a password...
I just got the second update here also and am now sitting at macOS 10.13.1 (17B1003) without a reboot.
Thanks for replying - what version are you using? Very psyched to hear that Apple may have fixed whatever was plaguing the initial release. I've been checking in the High Sierra forum to see if I might be able to give it another shot, but there's still an active thread regarding the slow start-up issue. Based on that thread, you have the fastest start-up time ever reported with High Sierra? I didn't know anyone had broken 30 seconds even?
I'm one of Apple's "it just works" fans. I blindly trust Apple to the point that I happily pay almost $3,000 for a laptop that I'm never supposed to open or upgrade. Mine is a late 2013 with the SSD.
Not from you - but just reading the responses on this thread - I honestly don't get the "Apple apologists" here?
Apple controls pretty much absolutely everything. So they have pretty much ZERO excuse for releasing an OS that isn't extremely polished and ready for prime-time. If their engineers are testing a new OS, they can have EVERY machine capable of "officially" running the OS on a long desk. That's supposed to be the whole point, yeah? That's why I'm paying the premium?
If that's no longer the case and the focus is now on facial scanning and Animojis - then I guess it's time for all of us to stop paying the premium and check out Windows 10? If Apple doesn't give a damn about us any more, then they're free to cater to the Animoji crowd lining up outside their stores to buy their latest notch.
I feel like I'm totally screwed anyway - because, in order to continue using a Mac, the NEXT laptop I'm expected to purchase will have some bizarre touchbar that's entirely dependent on an OS that they're too busy to bother with? But hey, it makes sense that they'd focus on silly thousand dollar phones that idiots line up to buy every year. It's that silliness - not their computers - that have made them so profitable.
Thanks for letting me know the startup time has finally been addressed. Once it's more widely reported, I'll be comfortable upgrading my Mac again.
But I was extremely angry - and I think rightfully so - to have experienced ANY ISSUE whatsoever with the initial upgrade.
And I call BS on anyone who defends Apple on any of it - for the reasons I've already stated. Apple has no excuse - other than claiming incompetence and firing whoever didn't check out one of the computers on the "long desk" of Apple machines running their Apple operating system. Seriously?
I'm one of Apple's "it just works" fans. I blindly trust Apple to the point that I happily pay almost $3,000 for a laptop that I'm never supposed to open or upgrade. Mine is a late 2013 with the SSD.
Not from you - but just reading the responses on this thread - I honestly don't get the "Apple apologists" here?
Apple controls pretty much absolutely everything. So they have pretty much ZERO excuse for releasing an OS that isn't extremely polished and ready for prime-time. If their engineers are testing a new OS, they can have EVERY machine capable of "officially" running the OS on a long desk. That's supposed to be the whole point, yeah? That's why I'm paying the premium?
If that's no longer the case and the focus is now on facial scanning and Animojis - then I guess it's time for all of us to stop paying the premium and check out Windows 10? If Apple doesn't give a damn about us any more, then they're free to cater to the Animoji crowd lining up outside their stores to buy their latest notch.
I feel like I'm totally screwed anyway - because, in order to continue using a Mac, the NEXT laptop I'm expected to purchase will have some bizarre touchbar that's entirely dependent on an OS that they're too busy to bother with? But hey, it makes sense that they'd focus on silly thousand dollar phones that idiots line up to buy every year. It's that silliness - not their computers - that have made them so profitable.
Thanks for letting me know the startup time has finally been addressed. Once it's more widely reported, I'll be comfortable upgrading my Mac again.
But I was extremely angry - and I think rightfully so - to have experienced ANY ISSUE whatsoever with the initial upgrade.
And I call BS on anyone who defends Apple on any of it - for the reasons I've already stated. Apple has no excuse - other than claiming incompetence and firing whoever didn't check out one of the computers on the "long desk" of Apple machines running their Apple operating system. Seriously?
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Since patch (1st one), I now can't create any new user accounts - I get a "Preference Error"
[Edit: When in doubt, reboot!]
[Edit: When in doubt, reboot!]
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M.PaulCezanne
macrumors 6502a
If you really write software using linux/unix based systems (including MacOS) you'd obviously know that a Root security hole such as this is NOT an acceptable "bug". It isn't even really a bug. It's a design error on a fundamental level that should never, ever have been missed by a vendor like Apple. Even children learning Linux today learn the importance of the Root superuser.
Even Apple knows they screwed up big time on this. You're apparently one of the few who for some reason throw it in the same bucket as a broken button or link. And as far as your argument that they hustled to fix it? They broke Root. They don't get a pat on the back for doing that.
Good grief.
Martyimac
macrumors 68030
I saw that too but a reboot seems to have taken out a few "hesitations" after mouse clicks, scrolling etc. It seems to have helped somehow. But no, Safari is not snappier. LOL
iamtheonlyone4ever
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ok first they released the first update to patch the root vulnerability but then they did something wrong that created a new problem with file sharing, yes I know it sounds like politics, lol , then they "apple" released a 2nd patch that includes the first patch and the fix for their mistake not only that but it also changes the build # again , so now we Nvidia users are waiting again for a new web driver for the new system version after Nvidia released new driver yesterday, now Nvidia have to make a new one just to keep up with apple, it seems that Tim took all the employees that Microsoft fired a few years back, absolutely no leadership , it seems Tim is just too soft, hate too say this but Steve expected and wanted more from people , his employees , I'm sure he "Steve" would it have done something about it or at least give a warning, if this keeps happening you are going to find yourself another job. can't wait for Tim to step down. by the way where is the new Mac Pro Tim, we get phones every year, iPads, watches , etc etc etc but where are the Macs pro
hello
last Mac Pro 2013, we are going to 2018
what happen to apple 5 years obsolete rule
hello
last Mac Pro 2013, we are going to 2018
what happen to apple 5 years obsolete rule
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burgman
macrumors 68040
Less Beyoncé, more geek. Maybe time to break Apple up into separate companies and dump the executive old rich guys
Maybe it's time for a macOS redesign? The era in which OS X was launched (around 2000 I believe) was very different from what the computing landscape is today. macOS has done very well over the last 15+ years with a steady influx of feature upgrade while maintaining a very consistent user experience. But given this latest security blunder as well as the general dissatisfaction with the OS since Lion was released, maybe it's time for Apple to build an OS from scratch for the cloud era? Just a thought...
ksnell
macrumors 6502a
HallStevenson
macrumors 6502a
qawes
macrumors 6502
Do you have any proof to back the statement that this issue was first mentioned two weeks ago? (no sarcasm intended)
Regarding "hardware, software, customer service and support", I pay premium and I get just that. This comes from a person which makes a living using their machines with 99.9% uptime and reliability since day one.
Don't get me wrong, Apple really should realise the fact that we use their platforms because the others ones are inferior.
Different users have different needs, but in high-end audio, Windows and Linux are a complete hassle.
Yes, I can see them now, adopting Android and respectively Windows on their devices because iOS 11 and OS X have bugs! 🙄
I know that this sounded like a good ending sentence to your very convincing post, but you actually managed to contradict yourself.
There are worse products out there that charge premium and disappoint. Take a look at Samsung, Dell, Microsoft, Lenovo, just to name a few. Lenovo actually had spyware bundled with the preinstalled OS.
Back to my point, different users require different solutions. This is like '98 and '05 all over again. Get over yourself, buddy.
dogslobber
macrumors 601
Diving Capers
macrumors 6502
About the issue being mentioned two weeks ago, there was a link (in this forum) to a developer forum where the root issue was discussed. I can’t be bothered going back to look for it though.
I do enjoy my Apple products, but I do not think that Apple management are deities that make no mistakes. It is very obvious that they do.... often.
Please explain how this is a contradiction?
I think you thought your empty phrasing sounded cool, unfortunately for you it doesn’t.
By the way, people are free (for the most part) to choose whatever hardware and software they use for work and or play. However this was not in anyway mentioned in my post you quoted.
Enjoy your day buddy.
Cheerio.
mgipe
macrumors 6502a
Yesterday I spent three hours trying to fix file sharing before giving up and resorting to sneakernet. This was not easy with a Macbook having only a USB C port. I couldn't get access to files on my Macbook from the iMac, but I could access the iMac from the Macbook. Then this morning there is a new patch, so I install it right away. Now I can access the files on the Macbook from the iMac, but I can't see the iMac from the Macbook. Arghh! Waiting for security update number three....
Years ago, when I’d ask someone “Do you work on a Mac?”, the answer would be a disappointed “Neh, just a normal PC...”
Today, if someone would ask me “Do you work on a Mac?”, my answer would be a disappointed “Bleh, still...”
If I were 10 years younger, I would drop this Emoji brand right this very instant. Bunch of sunbaked losers. Period.
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If making money is now the criterium, sure let him stay and be full of himself.
But I very well remember that Apple’s main goal used to be to make good products that they could be proud of.
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Today, if someone would ask me “Do you work on a Mac?”, my answer would be a disappointed “Bleh, still...”
If I were 10 years younger, I would drop this Emoji brand right this very instant. Bunch of sunbaked losers. Period.
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If making money is now the criterium, sure let him stay and be full of himself.
But I very well remember that Apple’s main goal used to be to make good products that they could be proud of.
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Sorry, you’re wrong. Not “internS”, but like the original post: “intern” 😀
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This exactly!
Also, when a user on the network goes to delete them they don't just sit inn the trash. They completely disappear. Could lead to some mistaken file loss there.
Or how about the fact I can't open scanned items in the shared scan folder from the server?
And so much more........
I'm beginning to believe all the Apple doesn't care about the Mac hoopla.
