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Apple: "Privacy is a fundamental right as we believe. However every company has to adhere to local rules and regulations. As the forward thinking company that we are, we want to be in most markets and we will follow local laws."
I don‘t think any company does business in/with China for altruistic reasons.
 
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Apple: "Privacy is a fundamental right as we believe. However every company has to adhere to local rules and regulations. As the forward thinking company that we are, we want to be in most markets and we will follow local laws."

They can make the decision to NOT operate in countries like this in order to adhere to their "FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT" stance. So breaking human rights is ok in the eye of doing business in a country? So it's lip service from them.

Don't get me wrong... I'm ok with Apple selling their products and adhering to all local laws - just don't pretend to be something you're not.
 
i can mostly control security with people i interacte with
hate products that make you click your life away (privacy) on end user agreement before you can use the software
 
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Talks about iPhone privacy when their iCloud backups aren't even end-to-end encrypted like Google and easily get handed over to the authorities lmao. Along Along with a bunch of wild zero-days that Zerodium has to stop buying them. Even their bluetooth implementation sends out more information than it should be https://hexway.io/research/apple-bleee/

How about actually committing to making privacy better across your product instead of making marketing video bs
 
Tracking isn't against you as a personal profile, you're just a random number in a system that associates your tracking data to. Also as mentioned above this data isn't just shared with the public. The seems to suggest that companies like Google are sharing my credit card number with people? Seems a bit absurd.
Metadata in aggregate ;) (watch from minute 16:04)
 
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I came to the apple world a few years ago just because of this. I was an avid android user because i like to be in control but im really conscious about my privacy so i switched to the iphone.

So if you want proof that this privacy minded approach works, im the proof.
 
I kind of wish Apple would utilize the Apple Lock animation at the end of the video somewhere in the iOS interface. — I think it would be a bit much for the TouchID/FaceID animation, but putting it on the phone shut down would make sense since shutting down the phone locks the device and would bookend the startup Apple logo.

Privacy. That’s iPhone..gif
 
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I came to the apple world a few years ago just because of this. I was an avid android user because i like to be in control but im really conscious about my privacy so i switched to the iphone.

So if you want proof that this privacy minded approach works, im the proof.
Welcome to MacRumors! Your case proves that at least one person was swayed by Apple's marketing. Do you have any proof that your privacy is better safeguarded since making the switch?
 
They can make the decision to NOT operate in countries like this in order to adhere to their "FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT" stance. So breaking human rights is ok in the eye of doing business in a country? So it's lip service from them.

Don't get me wrong... I'm ok with Apple selling their products and adhering to all local laws - just don't pretend to be something you're not.
Apple is privacy focused and they adhere to local laws and regulations. There is no cognitive dissonance on the part of Apple about this. Local laws and regulations must be adhered to and Apple will comply rather than exiting a market.

Of course, different opinions on what apple SHOULD do and whether they are hypocritical or not. My own opinion is they are not. YMMV.
 
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Welcome to MacRumors! Your case proves that at least one person was swayed by Apple's marketing. Do you have any proof that your privacy is better safeguarded since making the switch?
Can you prove it's not? Why place the burden on the op?

There are at least two people swayed by Apple's marketing, by the way...maybe more. Maybe in the millions or tens of millions.
 
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I came to the apple world a few years ago just because of this. I was an avid android user because i like to be in control but im really conscious about my privacy so i switched to the iphone.

So if you want proof that this privacy minded approach works, im the proof.

It's possible to reduce and minimise your exposure to tracking with enough effort. I have to ask though, why is this an issue?

I could use Duckduckgo to search the internet, but the results would be inferior to Google's results. What does this cost me in terms of privacy? Well, Google now know I've searched for a specific javascript syntax. How does this actually affect me? In reality, it doesn't.
 
Can you prove it's not? Why place the burden on the op?

There are at least two people swayed by Apple's marketing, by the way...maybe more. Maybe in the millions or tens of millions.
I have no proof but as he said that the privacy minded approach worked and that he was proof of it and the reason that he switched from android to iPhone, I thought he may have found proof during the research he undoubtedly did prior to making the decision to switch.
 
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It's possible to reduce and minimise your exposure to tracking with enough effort. I have to ask though, why is this an issue?

I could use Duckduckgo to search the internet, but the results would be inferior to Google's results. What does this cost me in terms of privacy? Well, Google now know I've searched for a specific javascript syntax. How does this actually affect me? In reality, it doesn't.

I think part of the issue is when the adverts become creepy by following you around the internet.

For example, a few years ago (before iOS content blockers were available) I searched for a very specific pair of rain boots on the Amazon app just to compare them to the price in the store I was shopping. I went home and suddenly I had Google ads across various websites that were trying to get me to go back and buy those exact boots on Amazon. I recall pointing it out to my partner and mentioning how insanely creepy it was and he agreed. Did it harm me that I was shown the boots in advertisements elsewhere? No. It was just creepy and felt like a violation of my privacy. Apple’s stance on blocking cross-site tracking was one step in helping to stop this, but I’m all for any additional protections they offer to their consumers.
 
Well I guess I don't need to watch the ad since the headline just tells me what it's about...
 
I think part of the issue is when the adverts become creepy by following you around the internet.

For example, a few years ago (before iOS content blockers were available) I searched for a very specific pair of rain boots on the Amazon app just to compare them to the price in the store I was shopping. I went home and suddenly I had Google ads across various websites that were trying to get me to go back and buy those exact boots on Amazon. I recall pointing it out to my partner and mentioning how insanely creepy it was and he agreed. Did it harm me that I was shown the boots in advertisements elsewhere? No. It was just creepy and felt like a violation of my privacy. Apple’s stance on blocking cross-site tracking was one step in helping to stop this, but I’m all for any additional protections they offer to their consumers.

In the early days before people knew much about tracking I can see how it would appear creepy. Ads these days are either targeted or not, but they are needed by many websites to help pay for the website and content they produce. The internet isn't free unfortunately.
 
Apple is privacy focused and they adhere to local laws and regulations. There is no cognitive dissonance on the part of Apple about this. Local laws and regulations must be adhered to and Apple will comply rather than exiting a market.

Of course, different opinions on what apple SHOULD do and whether they are hypocritical or not. My own opinion is they are not. YMMV.

Keep in mind Apple is calling it a "Human Right" - not just privacy focused. The moment you say something is a "human right", it means that not adhering to the full definition privacy means you as a company are now infringing on a humans basic rights...

Say for example China said that in order to legal do business in China, the company would have to kidnap their workers from their families and move them full time into slave camps, where they are to be fed once a day and never allowed to change their clothes.... Would you support Apple in conducting this atrocity in the name of following local laws, or would you see it absolutely absurd and expect Apple to refuse to conduct business in such a corrupt country? You can say that eroding a person's privacy is no where near this ridiculous, but it is in fact Apple that put privacy on the same level by classifying it as a HUMAN RIGHT.
 
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Tracking isn't against you as a personal profile, you're just a random number in a system that associates your tracking data to. Also as mentioned above this data isn't just shared with the public. This ad seems to suggest that companies like Google are sharing my credit card number with people? Seems a bit absurd.
I share your view that big data doesn’t care about who actually bought the pregnancy test but all the attributes of that person, context, time, gender, age, url, location etc, data that is aggregated weighted and used for example to promote tests on the sites visited by single ladies at 4AM.
 
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