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Don't care about the fitness stuff. But my phone is in my pocket most of the time, and checking brief texts that require nothing more than an OK if anything, paying for coffee at a drive-thru, rewinding an audiobook because a jet flew over, or pausing it if you meet someone, and even checking the outside temperature, without having to dig the phone out is -- what did you call it -- a *thing* for me. Plus I always notice the wrist vibration, whereas, buzzing in my vest pocket is often missed. So, I never have to put the sound on.

I tend to hold my phone unless I need both hands so makes it less useful. As for the people arguing about the Rolex
What I said was that *to me* the only thing the *appearance* has going for it is the recognition of wealth. That does not deny its value as a collector's piece or as an investment, which I had already conceded earlier.

*To me* its appearance *is* clunky. That is a fact. And dropping jargon about oyster this and bi-color ceramic that doesn't change that.

And, frankly, although I can't rule it out, I don't find it believable that the appearance is appealing to others either. That is, if someone made something that was indistinguishable out of cheap material, in a world where watches were not known, people would not consider it appealing, as they might a rose, or a fractal pattern, for example. The thing that gives it appeal is what you display here. It takes wealth and "being informed" and knowing the obscure details that make it expensive to create, to recognize the value of such collector's items.

It's information I don't happen to be interested in. And yet I am free to have an opinion on the object's aesthetic appeal.

Rolex still suffers from that more than any other premium brand. People still think of bankers, yuppies etc and Rolex whereas other brands you see as an expensive (possibly silly expensive), nice watch.
 
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The Apple Watch classifies as a "Thing." Regardless, its wearable technology and its a great device for fitness and convenience. No one here stated its the "Future." But don't deny it's not a wanted gift for the holidays or in general for that matter.

There were people who bought Geo Metros and Yugos. A small fraction of suckers, convinced they need a device to tell them once an hour to stand up and stretch and to be their own personal replacement for the gimmicky old grocery store heart cuff monitor stations, does not constitute a "wanted gift" of significance.
 
What I said was that *to me* the only thing the *appearance* has going for it is the recognition of wealth. That does not deny its value as a collector's piece or as an investment, which I had already conceded earlier.

*To me* its appearance *is* clunky. That is a fact. And dropping jargon about oyster this and bi-color ceramic that doesn't change that.

And, frankly, although I can't rule it out, I don't find it believable that the appearance is appealing to others either. That is, if someone made something that was indistinguishable out of cheap material, in a world where watches were not known, people would not consider it appealing, as they might a rose, or a fractal pattern, for example. The thing that gives it appeal is what you display here. It takes wealth and "being informed" and knowing the obscure details that make it expensive to create, to recognize the value of such collector's items.

It's information I don't happen to be interested in. And yet I am free to have an opinion on the object's aesthetic appeal.

Your remark was general and reflective of what others believe *as well*. Suggestion: Don't use "that is a fact" when defending an opinion. Reading comprehension, I can't understand it for you. I wouldn't care if you hadn't taken the time to pick apart my comment sentence by sentence in self-aggrandizing fashion and later retort you never wrote it.

You assert your *opinion* that Rolex's *to you* are overpriced and unappealing by mocking terms I referenced as to my one timepiece when that "jargon" is used throughout the industry. It would be tantamount to dismissing Apple's "jargon" as their products are "just flash" and nothing more. If you don't see the irony, wow.

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Agreed. I honestly forget that they exist. It's when I walk into an Apple Store when I think to myself: "Oh yeah, I forgot they make these." Never see them out in the wild. And they just look ugly (imo).
Apple Watches in general or the 2nd gen ones? I don't know how to tell the difference between the 2 just by looking at it, but I have seen plenty of aWatches in general, especially when I go to more populous areas. Probably 1 in every.... 20 to 30 people? It's not enough to be the majority, but enough that I notice it from time to time.
 
If you don't buy one of these at Xmas then you probably never will. And no shame in that.
I lost my job at a watch making factory. 'Couldnt believe it. After all the hours I'd put in!
 
Apart disliking the looks the main thing for me it just doesn't do enough over the phone I have in my hand/pocket. It's not accurate as a fitness device (not that any really are) don't want to try and run apps on it so may as well stick with a quality traditional watch that will still be going when the Apple watch is a distant memory.

I don't need information every second about everything on my wrist. It's nice to take a break from the barrage of info.

Now, if I made a watch, it would provide basics, like time and weather. I don't need notifications and constant reminders.

Take a break!

As it stand, I have a Rolex knockoff and it does what I want it to do.
 
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I don't need information every second about everything on my wrist. It's nice to take a break from the barrage of info.

Now, if I made a watch, it would provide basics, like time and weather. I don't need notifications and constant reminders.

Take a break!

As it stand, I have a Rolex knockoff and it does what I want it to do.

Yep, I'm not one to be glued to my phone, carry it but pretty much only use it for calls, never mind a watch. I ended up spending far, far more than I'd planned on my non-smart watch but I like it and will be passed down.
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If you don't buy one of these at Xmas then you probably never will. And no shame in that.
I lost my job at a watch making factory. 'Couldnt believe it. After all the hours I'd put in!

Old ones are (sometimes) the best.
 
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Apple Watches are not going to become a thing, Apple. Stop trying to make Apple Watches a thing.

They will be a "thing" for active people who own an iPhone. I don't need mine but I don't have an active lifestyle. They may not be a blockbuster but they are selling, profitable and have functionality for many. My daughter can't wait to get one (it will be a birthday present).
 
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I think the Apple Watch is a slow burner. One of the biggest issues is battery life. This is an issue with all wearables not just Apple.
My battery is fine.
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  1. Apple releases product updates that are deemed "boring"
  2. People say that Apple's ads are terrible
  3. Apple is the most profitable company in the world
  4. People say Apple just has good marketing
People show the full range of responses to every development. So all of those are always true every time. But they're not the full truth.
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Love my apple watch for
1) Apple Pay - best way to pay ever, esp. in drive-thrus
2) controlling audiobooks or music while dog-walking (pause, rewind, etc)
3) never missing calls or texts without ever putting sound on, whether the iphone is in a jacket or the next room
4) handy dispatch or ignoring of brief or pointless texts
5) Hey Siri, set a timer for 30 minutes -- surprisingly useful
6) complete confidence that the time and date are right, regardless of daylight savings or days in a month
7) Best watch strap ever -- milanese, and I'm a life-long watch wearer

Battery life is not a problem for me -- it never goes below 50%. I would gladly give up half the battery life for a thinner watch or more persistent on-time.

For me, the Apple Watch is a very big thing.

Agreed. At the very least it's a "thing".
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I've never met anybody with one.

Get out more
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About half the people I know who bought one have sold it because it provided little to no value and charging it was a nusicance.

Charging it is identical to charging your phone at night. Except requires less accurate placement and finessing of the connector. Don't see everybody abandoning their phones
 
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That's okay, I've run into more than enough people with questionable judgement lately.
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Charging it is identical to charging your phone at night. Except requires less accurate placement and finessing of the connector. Don't see everybody abandoning their phones
Which is precisely why they don't need the Apple Watch.
 
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Apple Watches are not going to become a thing, Apple. Stop trying to make Apple Watches a thing.

What's the matter? Someone salty because Android Wear failed?

It already is a thing. Unlike Android Wear.
 
Seems like the biggest problem with Apple Watch, especially series 2, is availability. Yeah, you see stores showing the demo units, but many don't even have them in stock. Series 1 is easier to find, but good luck finding series 2 and the Nike edition one.
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I wonder if it's meant to be overwhelming to imbue the sense that it does lots of things, or to mimic the intended fast glance nature.

It's the exact opposite of the very early iPhone ads which slowly explained the features. The Apple Watch ads seem like having a stroke in comparison:

Back then, many of the features we take for granted to day were new, like the idea of having a full browser instead of a WAP browser on a phone.
Apple's point here is that to show Apple watch being a watch, not a gadget. Wether the public sees it that way is another story, but imo that's the purpose of these ads, that it's a watch you put on and go, not a gadget that you need to learn how to use.
 
I've been on the fence about it's longevity for a while ever since getting my Apple watch on launch day 2.5 years ago.

Now I believe, after careful consideration, that it's the only way forward and Rolex & others will fight over that top 5% in the short term. Although there's not enough room for all high-end manufacturers. Competition will get tighter and tighter. Some watch companies will merge. Some will go down kicking and screaming with arrogance and ego utterly destroyed.

At the end of the day the landscape is changing. Watch companies will fight for survival but only the good will last. When ready Apple will eventually revisit the high-end market so if the competition haven't built up their capabilities to fight the onslaught it will be goodnight.

I'm taking a long term view ~10yrs. Till then, companies will jump in and out to make a quick buck for their shareholders.
 
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They should have been engineered it better so they could track sleep! Their all about improving your health but missing one the most important components! I REALL love my Microsoft Band 2 and disappointed their discounting it. I can charge it while in the shower and wear it 23 1/2 hours a day and it tracks everything.

The Apple Watch is a jack of all trades and a master of none!

About half the people I know who bought one have sold it because it provided little to no value and charging it was a nusicance.

I really enjoy how Microsoft allows you to compare other people your age, weight, exercise frequency etc... and see how your doing in comparison. The Nike Band also offered comparisons but included TONS of graphical achievements that kept you going. The Apple Watch is boring!

Microsoft Band is dead, so good luck with that.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thev...590/microsoft-band-discontinued?client=safari
 
Apple Watches are not going to become a thing, Apple. Stop trying to make Apple Watches a thing.

They're kind of a thing already. I see more of them all the time on the subway. Certainly more than I saw iPhones a year after it launched.
 
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