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1st no surfer ive seen wears an apple watch while surfing. have you tried using the screen when wet?

regarding the cycling - where are the data screens for cadence, power, speed sensor, etc.?

Agree, and don't forget that waterdamage is not covered by warranty. Now of a couple of cases unfortunately
 
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The purpose of this device remains a mystery. Remind me why I can have pretty much the same experience on my phone with a MUCH larger display...without something else doing mostly the same thing?
 
The purpose of this device remains a mystery. Remind me why I can have pretty much the same experience on my phone with a MUCH larger display...without something else doing mostly the same thing?

Remind me again why we don't all eat kale 3 times a day and work in booths.
 
Last week I lost my Apple Series 2 watch while on a 20 mile bike ride across the Golden Gate into the Headlands. Of course, I didn't realize it was gone until I returned. I wasn't Mountain Biking mind you, where plenty of branches to catch the watch/crashes are the norm. This was a road ride (fairly smooth streets).

What the root cause? 3rd party watch bands. There was no way in hell that I was going to pay additional hundreds of dollars for just a fancier looking band, when there are ones on Amazon for $20. With that said... each side of the non-apple bands have 2 exposed little screws. These screws are normally encapsulated in the Apple sport band's silicon coating. On aftermarket bands, these are free to work their way loose. As soon as one falls out, the hinge mechanism holding the band to the watch falls into two pieces, meaning... instant fall from your wrist.

In the 3 months that I've had my watch, this has happened twice! The first time, I was literally just lifting my hand towards my mouse at my desk, and it just fell off (Of course, this was right in front of my boss who isn't an Apple fan). So, I ditched that band, thought it was a one-off. I got another cool looking 3rd party band, and a month later...it too fell apart.

Luckily, and I mean luckily, an honest guy on his mountain bike found my watch on the side of the road, took it home, charged it, and found out how to get to the "Emergency ID" section of the lock screen. He found my wife's phone number, called her, and I now have my watch back. Unfortunately, I didn't want to tell her about it (It was a birthday present), and so this goon is now the proud owner of two Apple Watches. By the way, the "Find my Watch" feature is useless unless the person who finds your watch takes it to a trusted WiFi, i.e,. my own house. Without a trusted WiFi connection, it will never update itself as lost to the person who found it.

My advice, if you get an aftermarket band, put liquid threadlock in those screw holes. It's one thing to pick your watch up at your desk. It's another thing to lose it surfing. Waterproof watches don't do any good at the bottom of the ocean...

Not hating the watch mind you, it's a cool gadget. I love not having to bring my phone on my bike rides. I just turn on Strava, Pool Swim, or Outdoor Run and hit it. The round crown knob is great for adjusting volume on my bluetooth headphones while jogging. Super easy to update my music playlist too. Swapping out the bands is pretty awesome too. I'm hoping that the latest band I ordered holds together better (the band and watch section are all one piece).
 
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As it stands the Apple Watch is an extension of your iPhone but with limited application with poor battery life. I know many people whom have sent theirs back.

That is unfortunately true. And given that almost 90% of smartphone users use Android is an unfortunate choice. Apple should be like Fitbit, and other vendors and support both platforms at least with basic features like notifications, fitness data transfer, etc. And reserve some of the cooler stuff, MacBook unlock, etc. for Apple device only.
 
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Agree, and don't forget that waterdamage is not covered by warranty. Now of a couple of cases unfortunately

Water damage may not be on the official warranty, but Apple still replaced my series 1 after it went TU after getting wet. Since they are specifically advertising the series 2 as water resistant they will have to cover it. Unless they want more law suits that is.

Price is set by the market. If people weren't snapping them up at this price apple would figure out a different strategy up to and including killing them. Right now demand is beating supply so they are obviously doing something right.

I've had mine for about 1.5 years and the only really negative thing that kills it is the crappy battery life. Can't even go on a weekend get away with the wife without needing to take cords and stuff. Not cool. Once they fix that aspect, other improvements will be gravy for me.
 
Last week I lost my Apple Series 2 watch while on a 20 mile bike ride across the Golden Gate into the Headlands. Of course, I didn't realize it was gone until I returned.

Honest question. If you didn't notice it was gone, did you need it in the first place? I'm trying to understand what people are getting out of this watch. I do not understand how collecting statistics about your bike rides or runs will help you enjoy the time more.
 
Last week I lost my Apple Series 2 watch while on a 20 mile bike ride across the Golden Gate into the Headlands. Of course, I didn't realize it was gone until I returned. I wasn't Mountain Biking mind you, where plenty of branches to catch the watch/crashes are the norm. This was a road ride (fairly smooth streets).

What the root cause? 3rd party watch bands. There was no way in hell that I was going to pay additional hundreds of dollars for just a fancier looking band, when there are ones on Amazon for $20. With that said... each side of the non-apple bands have 2 exposed little screws. These screws are normally encapsulated in the Apple sport band's silicon coating. On aftermarket bands, these are free to work their way loose. As soon as one falls out, the hinge mechanism holding the band to the watch falls into two pieces, meaning... instant fall from your wrist.

In the 3 months that I've had my watch, this has happened twice! The first time, I was literally just lifting my hand towards my mouse at my desk, and it just fell off (Of course, this was right in front of my boss who isn't an Apple fan). So, I ditched that band, thought it was a one-off. I got another cool looking 3rd party band, and a month later...it too fell apart.

Luckily, and I mean luckily, an honest guy on his mountain bike found my watch on the side of the road, took it home, charged it, and found out how to get to the "Emergency ID" section of the lock screen. He found my wife's phone number, called her, and I now have my watch back. Unfortunately, I didn't want to tell her about it (It was a birthday present), and so this goon is now the proud owner of two Apple Watches. By the way, the "Find my Watch" feature is useless unless the person who finds your watch takes it to a trusted WiFi, i.e,. my own house. Without a trusted WiFi connection, it will never update itself as lost to the person who found it.

My advice, if you get an aftermarket band, put liquid threadlock in those screw holes. It's one thing to pick your watch up at your desk. It's another thing to lose it surfing. Waterproof watches don't do any good at the bottom of the ocean...

Not hating the watch mind you, it's a cool gadget. I love not having to bring my phone on my bike rides. I just turn on Strava, Pool Swim, or Outdoor Run and hit it. The round crown knob is great for adjusting volume on my bluetooth headphones while jogging. Super easy to update my music playlist too. Swapping out the bands is pretty awesome too. I'm hoping that the latest band I ordered holds together better (the band and watch section are all one piece).

That's a GREAT story! You were very very lucky!

BTW... The ride from SF to the Marin Headlands is awesome. Sad that the tunnel is going to be closed from January to May. :(
 
Honest question. If you didn't notice it was gone, did you need it in the first place? I'm trying to understand what people are getting out of this watch. I do not understand how collecting statistics about your bike rides or runs will help you enjoy the time more.

I'll admit it, I like getting thumbs up from other folks on Strava. Also, I much more prefer jogging with it to music, than jogging with an iPhone in my hand. Don't get me wrong, it's not a must-have device. I was also hoping that one day I could use it to replace my waterproof iPod Shuffle that clips on my googles for lap swimming. But then I read about how Bluetooth doesn't work underwater. So much for that idea...
 
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I am a surfer up here in the cold PNW water and there is no way I would ever wear an Apple Watch 2 in the ocean. I can't imagine how it could resist damage from the salt water, microbes, and whale, seal and seagull poop, etc...

I currently have a version 1 and do some swimming, showering and hot tubbing with it and have never had an issue.
 
these are misleading ads

1st no surfer ive seen wears an apple watch while surfing. have you tried using the screen when wet?

regarding the cycling - where are the data screens for cadence, power, speed sensor, etc.?

I surf and I wear one. But I don't use it really in the water. It's mainly so I don't have to carry anything with me. It has Pay, and allows me to get messages before and after wherever there's free public wifi. It tells time in the water, and gives me an alarm when I have to cut a session short to be somewhere. It also has access to tide tables and surf conditions. Activity tracking is useless. But now that it has GPS, I'm hoping for something like the Rip Curl Search watch.
 
I surf and I wear one. But I don't use it really in the water. It's mainly so I don't have to carry anything with me. It has Pay, and allows me to get messages before and after wherever there's free public wifi. It tells time in the water, and gives me an alarm when I have to cut a session short to be somewhere. It also has access to tide tables and surf conditions. Activity tracking is useless. But now that it has GPS, I'm hoping for something like the Rip Curl Search watch.

are you on strava
 
If you're thinking about notifications and mini-apps, you're utterly missing the point of surfing.

On the other hand, the sport has been used to market just about everything - from cars to powdered beverages, so why not? It's a hack move, but advertising isn't art (something I would never say openly to my marketing peeps).
I disagree. I think commercial videos are art. Granted it's in a category of its own but art nonetheless. There's good art and there's bad art but to create a compelling video that creates a desire through emotion is an art. I don't believe just anyone can pick up a camera and do this.

My professors and instructors at the School of Visual Arts would also wholeheartedly disagree with you.

As for these specific ads I think they're okay.
 
Those ads are too short to express a feeling/emotion. In the end you can't even remember what the ads are trying to express. In my opinion another fail.

Why should these ads express a sense of feeling? I don't believe that's the point here. I believe Apple's intent was to market these under ten seconds to provide the customer a quick overview of how/when the Apple can be portrayed in someone's daily lifestyle, more specifically, fitness.
 
Seriously Apple?

still think the Apple watch is worth what you change for it?

Go Fish.
Everyone is different. It's very worth it for me. I was in the 'what good is it?' club until I thought I'd try it out. And I love it. It keeps my phone in my pocket until I actually need to use it, which is something I really value when I have so many work notifications that I don't always have to respond to but always have to be aware of.

And most importantly is this. I've been overweight for 15 or more years. My Apple Watch just works for me, it's given me something so easy to focus on, that I've done something that I've never been able to do before (even with a fitbit which I just never really gelled with.) Since i bought my Apple Watch I've lost 2.5 stone in weight.

It might not be for everyone and it might not be for you, but it's sure as hell worth it for me!
 
False advertisement.

The Series 2's 50 meter water resistance is for pure water. Not salt water. So definitely no surfing (or they better replace any units that has water damage due to salt water surfing). They should get sued for this – they have been warned before in the UK for not including Flash but having advertisements that falsely show Flash-based websites.
 
False advertisement.

The Series 2's 50 meter water resistance is for pure water. Not salt water. So definitely no surfing (or they better replace any units that has water damage due to salt water surfing). They should get sued for this – they have been warned before in the UK for not including Flash but having advertisements that falsely show Flash-based websites.

Your post is false. Jeff Williams and Apple have stated the Apple Watch can be used for surfing. It's recommended to rinse the Apple Watch off with fresh water when completed with surfing. Research before posting.

http://www.mobihealthnews.com/conte...f-has-gps-nike-partnership-and-pokemon-go-app
 
Water damage may not be on the official warranty, but Apple still replaced my series 1 after it went TU after getting wet. Since they are specifically advertising the series 2 as water resistant they will have to cover it. Unless they want more law suits that is.

Price is set by the market. If people weren't snapping them up at this price apple would figure out a different strategy up to and including killing them. Right now demand is beating supply so they are obviously doing something right.

I've had mine for about 1.5 years and the only really negative thing that kills it is the crappy battery life. Can't even go on a weekend get away with the wife without needing to take cords and stuff. Not cool. Once they fix that aspect, other improvements will be gravy for me.

Then you got lucky. We were told to check the support page at apple. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205000
"Apple Watch Series 1 and Apple Watch (1st generation) are splash and water resistant, but submerging Apple Watch Series 1 and Apple Watch (1st generation) isn't recommended. Apple Watch Series 2 may be used for shallow water activities like swimming in a pool or ocean. However, Apple Watch Series 2 shouldn't be used for scuba diving, water skiing, or other activities involving high velocity water. "
Looks cool, but misleading for the masses non the less. Because, please define high velocity and shallow water. Plus, getting evidence to support you argument, good look with that.
 
Definitely worth it for me. It's been on my wrist at least 12 hours a day for about the last year and a half.

Rather than listening to all the typical negative buh-blah on MR from people who didn't own one, I wanted to see for myself and bought the Sport model to check it out first-hand, believing there was still achance it wouldn't work for me and I'd simply return it because I hadn't had a watch on wrist for ten years.

After a week I was sold. No way it was going back. Valuable for everyday fitness activities (cycling, hiking, gym) and for dealing with messages, email, calendar reminders, calls, Siri, etc without having to fish out my phone. And it's an excellent watch for time as well.

So tell me about your Apple Watch personal experiences?

I agree completely. I've had mine for 3 months and it's on my wrist all the time. My phone stays with my bag at the gym, I tracked my spin class on Tuesday, I've used it's built in GPS to get me home when lost on a run, it streams music, I've replied to texts on it and I often ask siri "who's playing in the premier league today?" "what are the scores?" all while my phone stays in my bag.

Is it essential? No, then again, I could live without an iPhone.... just saying
 
Brilliant. So true.
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Definitely worth it for me. It's been on my wrist at least 12 hours a day for about the last year and a half.

Rather than listening to all the typical negative buh-blah on MR from people who didn't own one, I wanted to see for myself and bought the Sport model to check it out first-hand, believing there was still achance it wouldn't work for me and I'd simply return it because I hadn't had a watch on wrist for ten years.

After a week I was sold. No way it was going back. Valuable for everyday fitness activities (cycling, hiking, gym) and for dealing with messages, email, calendar reminders, calls, Siri, etc without having to fish out my phone. And it's an excellent watch for time as well.

So tell me about your Apple Watch personal experiences?

A bit offtopic but I got rid of my high end digital watch. Got a "one-finger" watch. Then removed the watch. I also disabled all alarms and notifications on my smartphone. Contrary to popular trend, I want LESS notifications and info in my life. I want to check my mails, calendar and news when I got time for it, not the other way around, THEY take something off MY time to bring themselves to attention.

That said, I'm not sold on smartwatches. Also not on fitness trackers. Back in the day you used to run, cycle, swim do whatever sport you like to a) get your head free and just enjoy the activity and b) just "empty" yourself. When you're done, sweating and exhausted, it was a good workout. Simple. Your body got all the sensors an Apple watch has and then some.

I truly believe the more we "connect" to everything else, the more we're disconnected from ourselves.

Sorry. I know. Maybe a bit too "zen" for a tech-focused forum.
Still that's my opinion. I used to love Apple for making complicated things (computing) simple and not getting on my nerves as much as windows did. But those times are past us. Everything craves for your money and attention. Same with the touchbar. I'd rather have my keyboard respond to my well placed keystrokes and not the other way round. :)

No hate.
 
Brilliant. So true.
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A bit offtopic but I got rid of my high end digital watch. Got a "one-finger" watch. Then removed the watch. I also disabled all alarms and notifications on my smartphone. Contrary to popular trend, I want LESS notifications and info in my life. I want to check my mails, calendar and news when I got time for it, not the other way around, THEY take something off MY time to bring themselves to attention.

That said, I'm not sold on smartwatches. Also not on fitness trackers. Back in the day you used to run, cycle, swim do whatever sport you like to a) get your head free and just enjoy the activity and b) just "empty" yourself. When you're done, sweating and exhausted, it was a good workout. Simple. Your body got all the sensors an Apple watch has and then some.

I truly believe the more we "connect" to everything else, the more we're disconnected from ourselves.

Sorry. I know. Maybe a bit too "zen" for a tech-focused forum.
Still that's my opinion. I used to love Apple for making complicated things (computing) simple and not getting on my nerves as much as windows did. But those times are past us. Everything craves for your money and attention. Same with the touchbar. I'd rather have my keyboard respond to my well placed keystrokes and not the other way round. :)

No hate.

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