Cool ad, but I'm still afraid to go swimming with the 2nd generation. I need to get another set of straps for the pool. Anyone here swim with it on?
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Apple Shares New 'Go Swim' Ad for Apple Watch
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You can complete all that with a fitbit step tracker, that doesn't make it a good fitness watch. Why use the watch at all, you still need the phone for the GPS, so just use the phone and a bluetooth HR and you have the same functionallity as the watch, but with far better HR data.
Many people here have swam with it on. Heck, I swam for a year with the original Apple Watch that had a much lesser water resistance rating. No need to be afraid.
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Seriously, folks. Apple isn't "sharing" an ad with anybody. They are PLACING an ad.
Yes, there have been some terrific ads from Apple for the new iPhone 7 and the Apple Watch, but these short ones have been a big fail to me. The choppiness is distracting and seems almost amateurish. Whatever effect their trying to have is at least eluding me.
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Gotta call out that racism. Time to move on and treat people as individuals.
You're like some of the trollers of the Macbook Pro. You both keep saying that it's not suited for something in the face of professional users, in this case, swimmers, refuting what you say and Apple experiencing record sales. At what point do you reconsider either your opinion or your attack strategy?
Then you haven't seen the pitches in this ad for the swim aspect of the watch. Ingenious and beautifully done!
No - actually it's the best swim watch available
Can you find another swim watch that does:
1. Stroke Count? Swim Golf calculations, other things?
2. Automatic Stroke detection (Freestyle, breast stroke, Bfly, etc?)?
3. Heart rate measurement and recording while swimming?
4. Saves and stores your workout and automagically uploads to swim.com?
5. Of course it counts laps, and you can customize pool length.
Check out swim.com app - it's pretty awesome for swimming.
I believe there will be further data crunching possibilities to find out the velocity of the stroke through the length of the stroke.
It's a very exciting time for swim logging - Apple Watch is the BEST swim watch.
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I do with every swim and it is awesome.
The watch is basically waterproof as far as I can tell.
I take it in a hot sauna and hot whirlpool also. I was a bit concerned that the watch was getting VERY hot when I sat in the sauna for 10 minutes at a time - but I don't care - I'll abuse this watch and see what happens (nothing bad).
I use the swim.com app.
I also have a black metal expensive strap, and for this revision 2 Apple Watch I ordered it with the black rubber strap. I have been using the black rubber strap all the time now and don't even bother using my stainless black anodized heavy strap anymore because I do swim so often. The metal strap was nice, but it's heavy compared to the black rubber strap and I find that the rubber strap works awesome.
I like having the autmati9c log of my swims now.
I used to use a "sport count" to count my lengths, and now I have weaned myself off of using that - the watch does everything and more! (such as heart rate).
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I totally disagree.
I am a self-taught swimmer and I trained myself by subjectively rating my effort while looking at my last length time using a "Sport Count" finger lap counter/timer device.
Using a simple lap counter/timer - I was able to see myself going faster and figure out WHY I was able to swim a faster length using LESS EFFORT. This helped me learn to swim better very much.
I started swimming about 10 years ago maybe.
About 7 years ago my self-taught swimming made me good enough to realize I was good enough to join the Triathlon "learn to swim" group. I actually was one of the fastest swimmers in the Triathlon group, and that really boosted my ego a lot. I learned more and more technique from the Tri Club.
I started off swimming 1Km in 24 minutes. About 35 s per 25 m or so.
I got serious when I got to 30s per 25m length - 20 min per 1km.
My personal best is 16min 45 seconds for 1Km swim (couple years ago I achieved that).
Now I have ditched the sport count device entirely. I am using the Apple Watch and it does everything and also measures heart rate which is very awesome to have!
Problems? I need bifocals, so it's hard for me to glance at the watch while swimming - I actually have special contact lenses to help, but don't like wearing them just so I can read the watch. I am an old man, so it's just tough.
Other problem? Might not really be a problem - but I think the sport count counter was more accurate for timing 100m sprints because you can exactly start the timer when you start and finish. The Apple Watch swim.com app does it by using accelerometers or whatever and I don't think it can get the tenth of a second accuracy - but it probably does not matter much.
Anyway - I have so much to say about learning swimming.
I always place in the top 25% in any Triathlon I have competed in - despite my age. Many Triathlethes cannot swim is the funny thing. I'm usually in the last 10% for running and somewhere in the last 30% for the cycling. but Swim I am Tops! All because I used timers extensively. Apple Watch helps me swim - big time.
It's not racism, he's referring to this:
"The history of discrimination… has contributed to the drowning and swimming rates," says Prof Wiltse.
In his work he identified two periods of a boom in swimming rates in the US - in the 1920s and 1930s when recreational swimming became popular and the 1950s and 1960s when the idea of swimming as a sport really took off.
The first boom was marked by the construction of about 2,000 new municipal pools across the nation.
"Black Americans were largely and systematically denied access to those pools," he notes."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-11172054
I already responded to this, but also thought I would add to it to say that I have a Swimsense swim watch and stopped using it several years ago.
It was very good, but hard to read the LCD display - not bright display. Charging and synching was a hassle with a base unit and plugging it in to the laptop, and with my other Garmin devices I also used a USB "wireless dongle" thing - and it sucked too. I lost the USB dongle and had to buy a replacement and the only reason I put up with the interface problems was that I really do enjoy objective measurements and I like technology obviously.
Apple Watch is way better. You know - I also had several Garmin GPS sport watches and they are dependable and good, but I have weaned off of those too and now run and cycle and ski with iPhone which does as good or better job using "Map my run" app. Some guys use Strava, whatever.
As for the swimming - Apple Watch is really the best out there that I know of. I have not tried the Suunto though - and it could be a better swim watch - but no doubt it has dongles and human interface compromises - I really like the Apple Watch for less hassles.
How did you teach yourself swimming? I'm guessing you weren't using the trial and error method.
I disagree
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Yes trial and error. Used my times on each length to determine if I was going faster for less effort. About six years of that and I finally realized that I was swimming faster than most triathletes so then I got professional coaching at the triathlon club after that and got even faster did interval training and stroke improvement but I started out with trial and error found a stopwatch Finger timer called "sport count". Apple Watch does so much more and can measure heart rate which is really something new for a swim watches that I have seen The only other product that can do heart rate clips onto your earlobe and I have that also but it was kind of annoying so I stopped using it
I am a major geek and I noticed that there are a lot of faster swimmers than me who used no electronics but I am electronic it up to the max when I swim including waterproof swim headphones etc. etc. I have purchased and used just about every swim accessory It's a bit like my hobby Even though I am a geek and a little bit older than most out there I kick axx in the water
Automatic stroke count, timing of each length counting of all your lengths and heart rate done simultaneously why do you say this is not a professional swim watch?
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WRONG. I swam NCAA D1 in college and i swim Masters 4 days a week. Our yardage count is 3800m-4500m daily including IM strokes in "ladder" format depending on what we are doing for the week or if we are tapering for competition.
The Apple Watch is one of the worst swim watches on the market. One of our sets includes a 200 kick in 25m pool in a descend fashion followed by 300/200/100 build/stroke/kick. The Watch cannot detect kick, fly, flutter or otherwise. It also cannot accurately detect standard butterfly stroke with any accuracy.
Another issue with the Apple Watch is that it can't accurately asses "Drill". Especially inaccurate on one-armed catch-up fly drill one arm 6-kick backstroke.
There are 3 people on my team that have Apple Watches (v2) and after a 4500 meter workout the apple watch will say something like 2725. Completely inaccurate. and the heart rate detection is totally off. A very inaccurate device for HR monitoring. It's funny because the Apple Watch users all take their heart rate with their hand on neck - watching the wall clock between sets.
Yeah, well Tri club learn to swim program workouts were 2500m workouts with lots of intervals. Intervals can present a problem for measuring.
I find that the swim.com app quickly knows when I am "resting" at the wall between intervals. If anything I find the swim.com app inaccurately reports my 1Km non-stop swim (my typical swim I do just for maintenance and not really training I realize) with several intervals. I do open turns and it sometimes charts it as an interval with a 2 second "rest" - whatever. It's not perfect yet, but I am willing to give swim.com a few years to keep improving the app.
I guess if I was doing Tri club workouts I could tell you more - but I've only been using this for 2 months with the swim.com app. You may be right in that your 4500m workout is not being recorded accurately - but so what - what it does record is done automatically and is a step up from "nothing" I'd say.
I agree that "kick" is a problem for many swim watches. Again - could be solved in software probably.
The app I am using is made by "swim.com" - check it out - they are working on trying to catch intervals.
Your comments might relate to the stock "fitness" tracking that the Apple Watch does out of the box, but there are a few swimming apps that are addressing some of the concerns you might have.
The concerns you have probably are also concerns for all other swim watches I am guessing.
As I mentioned in another post - I also own the Finis swim watch - vintage about 5 years old. It was interesting, but Apple Watch is much better I'd say.
If you do a long workout with tons of intervals - when you analyze data after, you can zone in on what is important right? I mean HR measurement is nice to have, but of course any person can "guess" their HR accurately enough to know where they are at right? Stroke count is probably one of the most useful features I have found with ANY swim watch I have used (Finis or Apple) - but it's not like I would care if the workout was measured accurately - I only have to assess a few lengths at a glance to see my stroke count right? In this regard I did find the Finis to be a useful tool - but it was far worse than what I get from Apple Watch. And the Finis was a "one trick pony".....
I can get into this discussion, but it's hard to write on the fly - I would just say to consider all aspects of it - When you say the Apple Watch is "one of the worst" - I call BS on that.
Tell me - what is better than the Apple Watch? That's the key here. I see lots of excellent swimmers - perhaps like you - who are absolutely not interested in a swim watch - but that does not mean that some people like me can really benefit..
Perhaps nothing is better than a manual carotid measurement for HR (probably), but the automatic measurements are probably good enough for many or most case - wouldn't you agree? Maybe some day the machine will measure as accurately or more accurately than a carotid measurement. I'm guessing it will. On my own checking it seemed pretty close to being called "accurate" - but I agree that it is challenging to have a machine do the measurement - software can improve it.
Imagine where apps will take us for measuring the acceleration and velocity of each stroke - I think there is lots of room for making some cool swim apps.
You say there are 3 people using the watch for swimming and their results are off big time - are they using the swim.com app because I might correctly guess that they are doing something wrong or are using a bad app. Not 100% sure, but maybe you are also not 100% sure.
Again - Tell me what is better than the Apple Watch?
Tell me if you are using anything at all? Try the Apple Watch - you swim a lot - you might get something out of it I am guessing.
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I'm not a swimmer and all these Apple Watch ads are making me less and less interested in the watch because they are not catering to my needs but to something I would never use them for. Even when I'd go swimming I'd never use an Apple Watch because I just swim for fun and I don't care about tracking my fitness when swimming.
Just my two cents, I definitely see how it can be very useful if you are serious about swimming.
Just my two cents, I definitely see how it can be very useful if you are serious about swimming.
Sorry, you can't hide the naked racism that we in his post. Don't insult everyone's intelligence.
again - nobody uses an apple watch in triathlon.
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show me an apple watch with triathlon mode and someone claiming it worked well.
it's unproven.
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wrong
show me an apple watch with triathlon mode and someone claiming it worked well.
it's unproven.
First , I'm not sure why your resurrecting a thread that I replied to you over a month ago on and telling me I'm "Wrong." Which leads me to my next point, you have a post history that attacks other forum members without a valid argument and makes claims that has no evidence supporting what you're telling me. This post history reveals you failed to research this thread and or argue with everyone on here.
Now, to answer your question. Being that it's very apparent that you didn't read through this thread, even though you responded to how many posts in here, because if you had, you would see on these two pages that the following post numbers debunked your question and anecdotal theory. For your reference, allow me to list the post numbers that have already been contested and answered the question you posed to me. So in theory, your question was already answered in post:
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Since your telling me I'm wrong, then I assume you will tell these other forum members they're wrong as well. Which, You, @ILuvEggplant, are wrong indefinitely. If you respond, then please take the time to read
Through these posts and respond in a fashion that supports evidence that those forum members are lying and are wrong. Which, The results of your posts is very evident.