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making movies and shows now is all about targeting a sect or a current issue to gain their interest. Its no longer about art and telling a good story. Apple tv+ service, despite quality, seems like they took a pie-chart and divided it into different market sects and made a show to address each part of society.

After all, Apple is only interested in the money and if it works it works.
According to one guy who’s in charge of programming, they’re doing the exact opposite of what you say they’re doing.


Because Apple isn’t beholden to advertising rates, they don’t care about the key demos that ad-based channels live and die by. They’re into quality, and storytelling. They think if they make a quality show, it’ll find an audience.

Is it even true? Will it work? I think it will, but who knows? In any case, there are another 40 or so shows already in the pipeline. By this time next we’ll have a pretty good idea if Apple means what they say, or if they’re just going to crank out a bunch of dreck to pad out the catalog, a la Netflix.
 
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No, not Mythbusters, I don’t watch that show. I didn’t forget about that incident to which you refer, as I never knew of it.

But whether it was on TV or not isn’t particularly relevant, as it is true. At least according to my stat professor. “Correlation does not imply causation.” I can hear him say it as we speak :)

But by all means, let’s not limit in any way the breadth of our skepticism. Newspaper, magazine, radio, television—and above all ANYTHING on the Internet—should be met with a healthy dose of skepticism. One must “consider the source”.

Well, I’m sure you had a fine stat teacher (professor is a useless honorific). But as you should know or he should have mentioned, a correlation can be the causation. And it’s pretty hard to prove a causation without first finding a correlation.

Yes, newspapers, magazines, radio and statistics teachers are all questionable sources too. The illusion of knowledge to sell ads and the less opaque parent corporate motivations.

But seriously, you haven’t seen Mythbusters? How did you miss that but find any interest in an Apple TV+ thread? I don’t encourage the TV, but if you’re going to indulge, I believe you are doing it incorrectly. :cool:

JATO rocket car attempts > teen w/skateboard dramas
 
Well, I’m sure you had a fine stat teacher (professor is a useless honorific). But as you should know or he should have mentioned, a correlation can be the causation. And it’s pretty hard to prove a causation without first finding a correlation.

Yes, newspapers, magazines, radio and statistics teachers are all questionable sources too. The illusion of knowledge to sell ads and the less opaque parent corporate motivations.

But seriously, you haven’t seen Mythbusters? How did you miss that but find any interest in an Apple TV+ thread? I don’t encourage the TV, but if you’re going to indulge, I believe you are doing it incorrectly. :cool:

JATO rocket car attempts > teen w/skateboard dramas
Really?

1) When you stated:

“Don’t watch too much TV, it will rot your brain.” is a now a measurable social phenomena and the amount of TV consumed, correlates exactly with the timeline of decline in hard (grammar/math/science) educational standards.

which asserted a cause and effect relationship based on a correlation, I took issue. Mainly because your assumption of a causal relationship is not valid, and furthermore, wholly unsupported by you with any factual evidence whatsoever. But if you really want to disagree with “correlation doesn’t imply causation”, feel free.

2) My stat professor actually taught a few classes (because he enjoyed it) and I respected the fact we weren’t pawned off on a TA. I then called, and still call, him professor out of respect. Of course, one person’s respectful title is another’s useless honorific ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3) I’m reasonably sure my statistics professor wasn’t selling ads, or being run by a shadowy parent corporation, but who knows? He certainly had a firm grip on his illusory knowledge, though, and an incredibly entertaining manner of communicating it.

4) I never said I hadn’t seen Mythbusters ever in my life, so let’s dispense with the straw man. I’ve seen parts of a few episodes over the years but I don’t “watch it”, which you can take to mean on some frequent or regular basis. The hosts were not to my liking and I actively avoid it. I don’t watch shows I have no (or negative) interest in, and I think that’s me “doing it right” but maybe you disagree :cool:

PS not sure what a JATO rocket is and too lazy to google it but I’m ok with being out of the loop. Ignorance is bliss, no?
 
Daytime TV it seems. That audience is known to be heavily women and skewed towards minorities.
Women are significantly more likely to be the primary carers for children so I guess that makes sense.

But why would minorities be more likely to be at home during the day?
 
According to one guy who’s in charge if programming, they’re doing the exact opposite of what you say they’re doing.


Because Apple isn’t beholden to advertising rates, they don’t care about the key demos that ad-based channels live and die by. They’re into quality, and storytelling.

Well that’s their TV hire’s press line, but it’s a lie as he’s absolutely failed on both. The technical team deserves some credit for the high streaming bit rate, but the overall execution and rollout in the TV app is a train wreck. Is it true, you can’t even resume watching a show in the same spot, and have to manually scroll back to where you were?

Apple makes some great products, but their music taste has always been questionably contrived to just lame. I’m not sure Apple has any ability to execute creative output well at all. Apple TV+ is as dumb of an idea as launching Apple created music for iTunes/Apple Music. They make incredible paint brushes, but Rembrandt they are not.
Really?

1) When you stated:



which asserted a cause and effect relationship based on a correlation, I took issue. Mainly because your assumption of a causal relationship is not valid, and furthermore, wholly unsupported by you with any factual evidence whatsoever. But if you really want to disagree with “correlation doesn’t imply causation”, feel free.

2) My stat professor actually taught a few classes (because he enjoyed it) and I respected the fact we weren’t pawned off on a TA. I then called, and still call, him professor out of respect. Of course, one person’s respectful title is another’s useless honorific ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3) I’m reasonably sure my statistics professor wasn’t selling ads, or being run by a shadowy parent corporation, but who knows? He certainly had a firm grip on his illusory knowledge, though, and an incredibly entertaining manner of communicating it.

4) I never said I hadn’t seen Mythbusters ever in my life, so let’s dispense with the straw man. I’ve seen parts of a few episodes over the years but I don’t “watch it”, which you can take to mean on some frequent or regular basis. The hosts were not to my liking and I actively avoid it. I don’t watch shows I have no (or negative) interest in, and I think that’s me “doing it right” but maybe you disagree :cool:

PS not sure what a JATO rocket is and too lazy to google it but I’m ok with being out of the loop. Ignorance is bliss, no?

1. It’s not my job to satisfy your intellectual curiosity (if any), nor do you have the ability to set any discussion parameters.

You seem upset at the very notion that TV consumption isn’t a constructive process. This is well known and should go without saying, so to speak/type. You are welcome to postulate an alternative where increased TV indulgence is great for you and personal/mental development.

I’d add that only the shallowest of people would expect any personal growth from a totally contrived scripted drama, Apple TV+ or otherwise. The wrong tool for the job, no?

2. I’m sure your former teacher will survive the slight, and your childhood memories and constructs will remain relatively intact.

3. I clearly slipped your teacher into the list as a joke, BUT... every company or institution has agendas, the schooling industry is no different, and there are plenty of factions there within.

4. No, no, no. Straw man is a different show, actually an old movie with a girl from Kansas, lion, and a little dog. Again clearly joking by putting Mythbusters into my comment(s). First day on the net? Try some deep breathing. Or maybe go watch some more TV? :cool:

PS. Maybe not, you don’t seem happy.
 
According to one guy who’s in charge of programming, they’re doing the exact opposite of what you say they’re doing.


Because Apple isn’t beholden to advertising rates, they don’t care about the key demos that ad-based channels live and die by. They’re into quality, and storytelling. They think if they make a quality show, it’ll find an audience.

Is it even true? Will it work? I think it will, but who knows? In any case, there are another 40 or so shows already in the pipeline. By this time next we’ll have a pretty good idea if Apple means what they say, or if they’re just going to crank out a bunch of dreck to pad out the catalog, a la Netflix.

well according to their shows, he is lying. It so easy to tell who Hala is addressing, and SEE, and GhostWriter, and The Banker. They tried to make a show for every segment of the market.
 
1. It’s not my job to satisfy your intellectual curiosity (if any), nor do you have the ability to set any discussion parameters.

You seem upset at the very notion that TV consumption isn’t a constructive process. This is well known and should go without saying, so to speak/type. You are welcome to postulate an alternative where increased TV indulgence is great for you and personal/mental development.

I’d add that only the shallowest of people would expect any personal growth from a totally contrived scripted drama, Apple TV+ or otherwise. The wrong tool for the job, no?

2. I’m sure your former teacher will survive the slight, and your childhood memories and constructs will remain relatively intact.

3. I clearly slipped your teacher into the list as a joke, BUT... every company or institution has agendas, the schooling industry is no different, and there are plenty of factions there within.

4. No, no, no. Straw man is a different show, actually an old movie with a girl from Kansas, lion, and a little dog. Again clearly joking by putting Mythbusters into my comment(s). First day on the net? Try some deep breathing. Or maybe go watch some more TV? :cool:

PS. Maybe not, you don’t seem happy.
1) When you resort to insult, you’ve lost. Take the “L” and move on.

No need to postulate on my behalf that I would for any reason try to claim that “increased TV indulgence is great for you and personal/mental development”. If that’s what you believe that’s fine, but don’t try to stuff those words in my mouth.

Your entire reply is non-responsive to what I wrote: “(When you) asserted a cause and effect relationship based on a correlation, I took issue. Mainly because your assumption of a causal relationship is not valid, and furthermore, wholly unsupported by you with any factual evidence whatsoever.”

Would you like another try at a defense? The one you supplied above is intellectually dishonest and devoid of substance.

2) My professor is just fine lol. I can’t imagine he would care in the least about your juvenile attempts at disrespect.

3) You mentioned only TV; I broadened it to other media: “... magazine, radio, television—and above all ANYTHING on the Internet—should be met with a healthy dose of skepticism.” I’m fine with you broadening that beyond mass media to schools, companies and other institutions. Even stat professors 😂

4) More insults, vacuous suggestions and closing it out with a full-on psychological projection. Nice trifecta.
 
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