Apple Shifting Security Team From Contractors to Full-Time Employees

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple has decided to hire the majority of its day-to-day security staff in Silicon valley as full-time employees, a company spokeswoman confirmed to the San Jose Mercury News. Many of the security guards that Apple has hired in the past as contractors will become part of the company's expanded in-house security team and receive the same benefits as other employees, including full health insurance, retirement contributions and a leave of absence for new parents.

    Apple security guard in dispute with photographer at iPad event (via The Australian)
    Apple will continue using contractors as security guards for special events, such as the upcoming "Spring Forward" media event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts on March 9th. Apple is believed to have begun constructing an extension on the Yerba Buena Center over the weekend, possibly as an Apple Watch demo area, and security guards wearing "Apple Security" shirts were spotted monitoring the premises.
    Apple has faced increasing pressure to provide individuals who cook, clean and monitor security for the company with the same benefits as other employees. Local union United Service Workers West staged a protest on Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California in December over complaints that its security contractor Security Industry Specialists treated workers poorly and that many positions were part-time.

    Other service workers in Silicon Valley are also fighting for better wages and benefits. The Wall Street Journal reported that a group of 158 bus drivers working for Compass Transportation, which provides shuttle service for Apple, eBay, Genentech, Yahoo and Zynga, voted on Friday to be represented by local union Teamsters Local 853 in negotiations with Compass over fair working conditions.

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  2. macintologist macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2004
    This is a great step move and will demonstrate to corporate America that full time benefitted employees are more productive, happier and are easier to retain than part time contractual employees.
  3. xnu macrumors 6502


    Jul 15, 2004
  4. Mac21ND macrumors 6502a


    Jun 6, 2007
  5. SethBoy macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2007
    Gotta have people guarding that :apple: Watch Edition…
  6. DarkoDonnie macrumors member


    Jun 18, 2013
  7. tevion5 macrumors 68000


    Jul 12, 2011
  8. technosix macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2015
    West Coast USA
    This is a smart move. Apple definitely can do the right thing when they feel like it. This will pay off immediately.
  9. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
    Great response! I agree! Good for Apple. It's nice to know they are full benefits.
  10. LordVic macrumors 601

    Sep 7, 2011
    This made me laugh hard enough to shot coffee out my nose :p

    moving any sort of employee from contract/part time to full time is great. Ful time employees automatically get better benefits and better treatment under most political systems.
  11. Kevlar21 macrumors newbie

    Mar 3, 2015
    Too bad most AppleCare advisors are still contractors!
  12. danckwerts macrumors regular


    Jun 7, 2008
    Richmond upon Thames
    Must be better for Apple – they can vet them properly.
  13. AngerDanger macrumors 68030


    Dec 9, 2008
    That's what you get when you don't shoot on iPhone 6:

  14. sualpine macrumors 6502


    May 13, 2013
    It's a healthy mixture, mostly.
  15. sualpine macrumors 6502


    May 13, 2013
    I don't like it. Apple has a general practice of not trusting Retail employees. I can just imagine the LP accusations when something is stolen. There will be a lot of scapegoating.
  16. TheRealTVGuy macrumors 6502a


    Jul 21, 2010
    Orlando, FL
    If those bus drivers think that the teamsters will have an overall positive impact on anything, they'd better think again. The only thing the teamsters care about is getting dues directly from your paycheck and growing their organization.

    The only thing worse than negotiating with the unions is negotiating with stockholders. Just look at what The Walt Disney Company has become.

    Keep the products and the user experience as the goal, not the stock price or the unions, and Apple will be just fine.
  17. MasterRyu2011 macrumors 65816

    Aug 22, 2014
    Hopefully the janitorial crew will also become full time. Janitors get exposed to a ton of inside information via mismanaged trash containing confidential info.
  18. kagharaht macrumors 6502a

    Oct 7, 2007
  19. lostngone macrumors 65816


    Aug 11, 2003
    Maybe Apple really is doubling-down on security?

    The new Apple campus security vehicles.... :eek:

  20. unplugme71 macrumors 68030

    May 20, 2011
    Its the equivalent of oil miners. You find oil or in their case some confidential info, you can become rich, possibly - although through illegal means most likely.


    I always thought we could use 1 or 2 per campus. Not that we would ever need to use it but it would be fun riding one of those between DCs.
  21. Bigsk8r macrumors 6502


    Nov 28, 2011
    Austin, Texas
    Good Move

    This is a move that all Silicon Valley companies with highly sensitive IP need to take. I have been onsite on a project at Google off and on the past 3 months and they have very quietly been doing the same thing... transitioning contract / part time security to full time employee status.

    Having the ability to have different clearance levels and access levels based on building access and project sensitivity is huge. Controlling access via a third party that has generic "security badges" to enter buildings is more complex than it might seem at first blush.

    Also, the point about fully benefited full time employees being happier and harder working is 100% true. The poster that talked about washed up cops, and folks with PTSD is so ignorant that it doesn't deserve to be quoted... SMH.
  22. Gasu E. macrumors 601

    Gasu E.

    Mar 20, 2004
    Not far from Boston, MA.

    How do those "oil miners" manage to stuff enough oil into their pockets to get rich?
  23. wigby macrumors 65816

    Jun 7, 2007
    While this might work for Apple overall, I'm worried about them caving into pressure too much. They "caved" in on worker's rights, diversity, environmental and now unions. These are not bad things but they will eventually lead to bad things like special interest groups that should have never formed pushing their political agendas on corporate America.

    Once special interest groups smell blood or weakness, they do not stop until they are rich and their opposers are unemployed.
  24. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    I suspect they have been trying to do this for a while, so they can get those folks fully on NDAs etc. But the unions can screw with such things. It would breach multi year contracts, the unions might lose dues etc so they wouldn't want it to go forward. Would take some time to work everything out


    This isn't about Retail.

    And unfortunately there have been a lot of incidents of retail employees doing crap to make a little distrust appropriate.
  25. thekeyring macrumors 68040

    Jan 5, 2012

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