A loss 2% of the market I’m just pointing out what the numbers show. Obviously Apple is doing amazingly well by all metrics
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Apple Shipped an Estimated 14.3 Million iPads Worldwide in Q2 2020 Amid Surging Tablet Market
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The pie got bigger, but people are trying to compare the larger and smaller pies as if they are equal.
People struggle with numbers and analysis, but everyone thinks they fully understand it...just look at the mathematical geniuses analyzing the virus, lol.
I think this is explained by the fact that a lot of growth was not discretionary, I.e. Folks needed something as a result of the pandemic and gravitated to cheaper products; as good as the iPad is, if it’s largely only being used for “FaceTime,” it can be seen as expensive. We wanted to stay in contact with our mother in law (isolating for 12 weeks) and so we got her a tablet (Lenovo). Since this was essentially the only intended function at the time, it didn’t warrant the expense of an iPad.
Lol, check your math bro. Wrong, completely. Your number indicates a 350M tablet market.
Your analysis is flawed and you’re drawing the wrong conclusion because of it. The pie got bigger primarily because Apple sold more incremental tablets than anyone else. Apple was the most dominant force in creating the larger pie.
38% share of a 37M market is better than a 40% share of a 30M market.
Yep I had edited my post after checking my math. But not fast enough lol.
But it’s still a loss of 2% of the market.
Again, Apple is doing amazingly well, and happy for Apple as I think they deserve it, not trying to kick someone’s puppy, just mentioning what the numbers show.
Again, 38% and 40% are meaningless. Imagine if it’s 38% of a 1 billion sized market and the 40% was a 1 million sized market.
Apple leads in all categories except for desktops and smart speakers. But They don’t lead in OS market share in any of them. That’s his mantra.
Amazing growth in the tablet market. I wonder how many are tablets for kids. Seems like every kid I see in the back seat of a car has one.
“In fact, we don’t have a dominant share in any market or any product category where we do business.” —Tim Cook, July 29, 2020.
<— TC’s mantra.
This is essentially an issue of definition. What is defined as "better"? If it is defined by the absolute amount, a smaller share of a bigger pie could be better than a larger share of a smaller pie. However, if "better" is defined as the relatively advantage you hold against your competitor, 38% is worse than 40%. I would think both are important gauges of performance. As long as terminology is clearly defined, there is no need to argue which is right.
I guess the key term here is "dominant". If it means dominant compared to the rest of the market combined, this is probably true. If it means dominant compared to any other single brand, it would be suspicious. At least I don't think any brand outsells iPad in the tablet market in the US.
Lol that’s a lot. I’m not arguing, and Apple is doing amazingly well, just stating the facts.
And in this atmosphere of government anticompetitive smack downs, it’s probably good that Apple doesn’t completely dominate anything too much
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The pandemic has been good for the tablet market. Work and school from home has made iPads very popular tools.
Interesting that certain posters on here often state that "the iPad IS the tablet market" and "why do the the other manufacturers bother". It seems that 62% of those buying tablets disagree. And if only looking at the number 2 company, Samsung, it sells almost half as many as Apple. Not quite the "iPad is king" story many seem to want to believe and falsely tell to others.
as I said in an earlier post, I don’t think any of the manufacturers would be unhappy with their respective numbers and I think Samsung bother as they sell more half a million tablets a week or 1 a second. To put into context, more than every games console (including handheld) combined
Yeah, when I look at youtube vids I get the feeling that the samsung Galaxy tabs are very popular in Asia. I think if you exclude Asia, the share of Samsung is going to go down by a lot.
MS Surface isn’t a real tablet in my view. It’s more a laptop with some (mediocre) tablet capabilities
if you exclude North America the share of Apple will go down so the stats are what stats are. No use in cherry picking by country or region.
Of course there will always be other types of tablets around. However, a distinction ought to be made between the premium iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil and magic keyboard and the cheap android tablet that’s really only good for running netflix. If you are serious about using a tablet to get things done, the ipad is the one with the specs and the ecosystem and the app support and it sometimes feels like Apple is the only company pushing tablet productivity forward.
I use my ipad to do the things I do as a teacher and looking at the current state of the tablet market, it looks like I will continue using an iPad Pro for a good long time to come.
Conversely, I haven't found a case for a laptop although I have also tried. (I'd love to have a MacBook Air.) I like the virtual keyboard on my iPad Pro and iPad mini 5 and they do pretty much all that I need from a computer. The addition of BT keyboard and mouse support kind of fills in the gap.
If memory serves me - Microsoft, so far, very seldom makes it out of the "Others" category for tablet sales.
Another possibility is of course that for other manufacturers, "shipped" really means "shipped" but not necessarily sold. So there could really be a huge chunk of cheap tablets collecting dust in some warehouse somewhere.
There’s also an awful lot of Android tablets that are cheap drugstore shelf $100 tablets that aren’t much good for, and don’t get used for, much beyond watching videos. Yet they contribute to the Android market share numbers.
Yeah. I do like that new keyboard Apple out that holds the iPad Pro up above the keyboard. It's slick.
I write code but can't do that on an iPad.
I have an Air. I wish I'd bought a Pro.