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Apple should move to OLED at this point.

DanteMann said:
...What is it that you're doing on that tiny little screen that requires the most accurate colors...
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and I would ask the same of OLED proponents, and since when was this an argument - it's a debate isn't it?

I have a solution to your conundrum though ...buy a Samsung and move on! or is that a problem too?

It seems there are so many members that want the Apple Brand to show off th their peers, but want Samsung\Android features! News Flash: It ain't gonna happen, so either enjoy owning an Apple product for its user friendlyness or buy the less auspicious brand and have your extra's.

you can't have your cake & eat it too - even at Apple's prices. :)
 
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Artimus12 said:
Apple have already applied for a 3D mobile display technology patent - so who knows?

..and I'd like the world's most accurate display rather than palette inaccuracy, over-saturation and hyper-contrast that causes eye fatigue ..but that's just me.
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Well, yeah...nobody prefers innaccuracy. But your comment came off as 3D is proven technology and is catching on. Even though Apple may have a patent, I can't see them using it with the currently available technology.

And even if we are debating innaccuracy, whether perceived or not, even within Apple's own product lines there are variations. The supposed iPhone "yellowgate" and Samsung vs LG panels within the Air...
 
Artimus12 said:
and I would ask the same of OLED proponents.

I have a solution to your conundrum though ...buy a Samsung and move on. :)
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OLED brings contrast and black levels nothing else can even comes close to. Images for small mobile screens that leap off the screen. Tech that is flexible to open up the design possibilities of a mobile device.
I'm guessing as soon as Apple does eventually catch up, and pays Samsung for the use of their OLED innovations, many here will play it up like it's Apples innovation. The same way many here keep calling it "Apple's" display on the iPhone, when in fact it is LG's hard work. :rolleyes:
 
From what I'm reading, the desire to have an OLED, etc. seems purely opinion based. One says its better because colors are so robust, detractors say its not true color. Etc. Etc.
We even had one mention of proven technology. Not sure about that one. I consider proven technology to be such things like:
hammers
crowbars
Holley 4 barrel carb on the 1968 Dodge Dart
cold beer on a hot day
and anything else that actually works for what you want it for

Outside of that, I'm skeptical. ;)
 
cyks said:
No thanks.

I'd prefer to not have to worry about burn-in showing up - let alone within a year of buying the phone... as practically every OLED device has shown.
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Yeah because we all know the screens on iMacs, iPads, and iPhones have no issues whatsoever that require so many of us to keep going back to the Apple store for a replacement until we get a screen that looks acceptable. :rolleyes:

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DanteMann said:
The same way many here keep calling it "Apple's" display on the iPhone, when in fact it is LG's hard work. :rolleyes:
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It only becomes LG's display or Samsung's display when there are problems with the screen.
 
The bottom line is that OLED is an advancement in technology. Remember refresh rates (ghosting) with LCD, and their horrible color gamut? It can only get better. And I've already mentioned that color temps can be tuned with OLED anyways.

I came from a Nexus S. If you haven't some of the newer OLED screens in person, they are eye opening. One thing I truly miss is the true blacks. When I say black, I mean BLACK. You could in a pitch dark room and if the whole screen transitions to black, it's like the screen is off...well essentially any pixel displaying black is technically off.
 
Timzer said:
Yeah because we all know the screens on iMacs, iPads, and iPhones have no issues whatsoever that require so many of us to keep going back to the Apple store for a replacement until we get a screen that looks acceptable. :rolleyes:
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I never said that the screens that Apple uses are perfect, but at least, for the most part, you know if it's defective the day you bring it home and turn it on... not months later when you see ghosting status bars and icons.

Problems devices will always surface, but why would anyone want to move to a tech that has bigger known issues?

Hopefully as the tech evolves that issue will be fixed and Apple will move to it, but, until that happens, no thanks.
 
silver8ack said:
I have yet to see a screen/display that looks better than the iPhone 4 which is how old??
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So I'm guessing you haven't looked at a Galaxy SII, Galaxy SII HD, Galaxy Nexus. All of which have a Super Amoled Plus or Super Amoled HD screen.
In the end, "Looks Better" is strictly your preference. That being said, I have yet to see any review that thinks that Super Amoled screens are second to anything out there.
 
Timzer said:
So I'm guessing you haven't looked at a Galaxy SII, Galaxy SII HD, Galaxy Nexus. All of which have a Super Amoled Plus or Super Amoled HD screen.
In the end, "Looks Better" is strictly your preference. That being said, I have yet to see any review that thinks that Super Amoled screens are second to anything out there.
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Let me put it this way... I haven't seen a screen that blew me away compared to other screens since the iPhone 4.

Maybe those screens are brighter, perhaps they have better color. I couldn't tell you honestly. But when the iPhone 4 came out, and it was compared to any other phone in existence, it looked like magazine print instead of reading through a screen door like every other phone.

I have only spent minutes with the newer phones, but they don't wow me enough to say the screens are soooo much better. But whatever, maybe they are. Of course they are huger, but I don't want a giant phone in my pocket all day.
 
I think AMOLED screen use too much power.

Sure, they say that a black screen doesn't use much juice, but if you look at the Nexus and other AMOLED phones, the screen is by far the biggest battery drain.
 
The quality of the screen is already fantastic. There may be some incremental improvement in switching to a different technology but I don't see it as a critical area in need of improvement. I've seen the Nexus and the SII, their screens are also fantastic. If they are better than the 4S I didn't feel like it was enough for me to notice it and think "Wow, Apple needs to get on this!"

If the next iPhone has a better screen, great, but it's not going to be something that will drive sales the way the switch to the Retina display did.
 
The biggest problem with OLED right now is that they can't come anywhere close to the iPhone's pixel density without using a PenTile pixel structure.
 
I have both SAMOLED and IPS phones and IPS looks far more natural and well balanced overall. AMOLED is terrible with colour accuracy...lots of blue/purple tinges. Also draws more power when there are white backgrounds which IPS doesn't.

The only real superiority of OLED is the really deep blacks and even IPS (as was the case with first batch iPhone 4 units) can have good enough blacks that the point becomes relatively moot.

I'd rather Apple stick to well calibrated, high quality IPS screens.
 
steve.caplin77 said:
I love apple. Apple is always try to get some advance and unique technology and i know very soon they can beat samsung also..
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Apple hasn't really added much to display technology other than branding. They sometimes pick a winner, but the other company is still doing much of the leg work, but I guess in the case of Apple they could internalize a lot of things simply because they're (now) a fairly large company.

chrono1081 said:
Same here. OLED is very overrated right now.

Maybe in the future they will look better.
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Newer technology so it gets a lot of hype.

DanteMann said:
Absolutely laughable how so many of you are trying to use the "color accuracy" or the "over saturation" argument as if the colors and saturation are so way off. What a joke. The super amoled plus display is considered by the over whelming majority in the tech world to be THE STANDARD.
These settings can be adjusted with apps to what you like. The TVs will have settings to adjust and the ability to be calibrated. The Galaxy S2 even has settings for saturation.
That being said, please explain to me how the utmost accuracy in colors is necessary on your tiny little 3.5 inch screen. What is it that you're doing on that tiny little screen that requires the most accurate colors. What an absolute joke of an argument.
Sorry to break it to you loyalists, but OLED is the future, and for the rest of the tech loving world, the future is now.
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Any idea how it addresses some of the typical issues of LED implementations? LED historically had a lot of issues with balancing color stability, power consumption, and overall heat which would affect color stability. Tons of white papers have been written on the topic. I'd just have to locate one as I don't keep them all archived.
 
thekev said:
Any idea how it addresses some of the typical issues of LED implementations? LED historically had a lot of issues with balancing color stability, power consumption, and overall heat which would affect color stability. Tons of white papers have been written on the topic. I'd just have to locate one as I don't keep them all archived.
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I just look at it. It looks nice to me. Personally, I don't need a paper to confirm or negate my feelings. I have seen amoled displays that remind me of viva pinata (for those that don't get the reference it was a kids game for the 360 when it first launched, but was overly colorful IMO) and I have seen those that look great. In direct sunlight, these outperform any tech I have seen. Indoors they are pretty as well.

My guess? Once the tech is offered cheap enough for Apple to implement in their new phone AND see profit margins where they want them to be, they will throw it on the iPhone. All this, and people will claim that Apple waited for it to be "implemented right", and they will have, because they will be making the money they want to off the thing.
 
I have a samsung rogue with an amoled screen and in sunlight you can't see anything. It pretty much looks like the screen is off.
 
lordofthereef said:
I just look at it. It looks nice to me. Personally, I don't need a paper to confirm or negate my feelings. I have seen amoled displays that remind me of viva pinata (for those that don't get the reference it was a kids game for the 360 when it first launched, but was overly colorful IMO) and I have seen those that look great. In direct sunlight, these outperform any tech I have seen. Indoors they are pretty as well.
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I'm just really nerdy in that I enjoy reading engineering documents. I get more enjoyment out of knowing how it works than looking at it with something like a phone. If it made a difference in my work, that would be another matter.
 
thekev said:
I'm just really nerdy in that I enjoy reading engineering documents. I get more enjoyment out of knowing how it works than looking at it with something like a phone. If it made a difference in my work, that would be another matter.
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I probably wouldn't know what I was looking at... :eek:
I know where you are coming from though. I enjoy reading old surgery tomes. Fiance thinks I am weird. I find it completely normal. :D

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Fudd said:
I have a samsung rogue with an amoled screen and in sunlight you can't see anything. It pretty much looks like the screen is off.
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Well that sucks. Poorly implemented I guess?
 
Nothing wrong with how Apples screen looks but c-mon, its flexable OLED here we are talking about. Anything to make the iPhone less fragile should be welcomed here.
 
On my Galaxy S2, when I'm using my phone in the dark I want to set the brightness lower and I find out it's already on the minimum setting. Oh well, it's a gorgeous screen anyway.
 
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