Apple Shuts Down MobileMe, Data Available for 'Limited Time'

[3282868]

It's a viable replacement only if it supports all file types as it did in iDisk.

Agree

Apple has been a bit vague with us developers. Without breaking any possible NDA (pre-emptive statement for the "You have an NDA!" minorities ), there have been hints that "Documents" would be akin to a file structure in the cloud (contrary to what Jobs may have stated, and Jobs has been known to throw out misinformation from time to time).

Time will tell

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Sadly upon closer inspection it just compresses an album and asks you to download it, seems to be skipping over some, but maybe it's combining them? At least I just have to keep clicking 'Download'...

Well, it's redundant anyway if you have a Mac. When you open iPhoto and click on the MobileMe gallery, they get migrated into an album so it's still there for your convenience.

 

[Doctor Q]

Yeah, I just use Dropbox.

I occasionally used MobileMe's file-sharing, but can live without it. The other day I tried CloudApp, a convenient way to put a file in the cloud and share a link.

 

[MrNomNoms]

So you haven't lost or gained a thing.

He's probably boasting because he's 'not part of the system dude!'

 

[Over The Hill]

If it were Windows, you'd blame Microsoft - but wait, Microsoft bends over backwards to ensure that almost all legacy software still works.




Please give a citation of any warning that Apple gave that Rosetta would be dropped.

And, cite something that doesn't require "reading between the lines". For example, a statement like

Products Released         General Availability  Mainstream Support  Extended Support
                          Date                  End Date            End Date

Windows XP Professional   31/12/2001            14/04/2009          08/04/2014

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-gb&C2=1173

How about a widget for your desktop to let you know how many days of support remaining?

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...CaZA6xvmvmAQ6JaRaxqfbRtK3Qx4zY1rXM/AGkfn6ug==

Windows XP support was extended not out of pure heart as far as i recall. Rosetta was a transitional software. It was a given that at some point it would be dropped.

 

[aajeev]

What is iDesk?

How do u take multiple red eye flights on the same day?

iDisk was what Apple used to call this internet drive which you can mount like a cd-rom or USB for you to access anything you have on your MobileMe account (files) over the internet.

As for the multiple red eyes flight, it was one early a.m. flight, followed by another connoting early a.m. flight about an hour later. The point was, even if I had remember about the MobileMe shut down, there was no way for me to access my data.

 

[faroZ06]

I occasionally used MobileMe's file-sharing, but can live without it. The other day I tried CloudApp, a convenient way to put a file in the cloud and share a link.

Actually, I mostly use AFP and SSH connections to my Mac Pro from my MacBook.

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Then why did he not say that? You just presume that is why he posted, you don't know for sure!

If he doesn't use it, he's either an extreme hater (not likely) or someone who just doesn't find it useful. I don't see any other reasons why he would not use it.

 

[SeaFox]

Because you had already copied it of course you did not need to do it again!
Your data is already backed up!
P.S. How much warning did you actually need to know mobileme closed down today? A year? A Decade? And you wait until today and then complain?

You clearly didn't understand what I said so I don't know why you bothered replying.

I had my iDisk mapped as a network folder on a Windows 8 PC, and just dragged the folders out of iDisk to a local drive to copy them on June 30th. I hadn't used the "download gallery" command yet. MobileMe isn't going to be aware I had backed up the files, so the "download gallery" button should still work (also, I like how you assume you can only use the command once, yeah Apple would have a real problem with me downloading a picture gallery twice).

Anyway, I saw the news here that MobileMe was truly shut down and that the data was still available to retrieve. So I thought I'd try the download gallery function since I was curious if it was going to give the gallery html files or just the photos, package everything into a ZIP file, etc. Only when I tried to use it and found that despite my data supposedly being still available to download according to Apple, no, they already had deleted it.

That's my point here. The retrieval feature is broken because the data is already gone when it should still be there. I don't have an issue with lost data, because I'm aware of other ways of retrieving my files than doing it with Apple's gallery backup tool and had already done so, but other people might not be so lucky.

 

[MacOSXuser]

Good night MobileMe, you will be missed.

 

[immaculate]

Genuine question.

All those bemoaning the loss of iDisk: what are you missing you can't get from, say, DropBox?
I've not touched iDisk since DropBox arrived - and I never liked touching it before that. That's just me - but I'm failing to see what iDisk gave *anyone* that DropBox doesn't (and much better). Perhaps iWeb integration (which is also going (gone?), of course, so that's not really a reason to miss iDisk?

Have I been missing some killer feature of iDisk all this time?
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Erm, yes you have. It's called the Public Folder. In Dropbox, Box, SugarSync etc you can share individual files (and folders?) by emailing a unique link to the recipient. That's a lot of emailing if you have twenty+ files and 100 participants at a workshop.

And I also work in contexts where I don't even know the names, never mind the email addresses, of people who need to access files - so how is Dropbox going to help me? (If Dropbox has this feature, I stand corrected.)

Enter the Public Folder: all people need to know is my web site URL. From there they can link directly to my Public Folder, and access whatever they want. This was a great feature of iDisk that has been lost with its demise.

As mentioned above, as far as I know, Dropbox etc don't offer this. The only replacement I have found is Wuala, which I therefore recommend to anyone else in my position.

 

[Iggy]

Such a shame. I've used iDisk constantly for years, as far back as .Mac. Such a silly move from Apple, reducing functionality. Been using Dropbox for the past week, it's not the same!

 

[Lancer]

He's just saying that neither are very useful, which is true for some people like me. The only reason I have iCloud is because it's free, but I barely use it.

Yes!

I will admit trying iCloud when I updated my iPhone to iOS 5 but haven't used it since. Good backup solution and sync with my Mac ever 2nd day is doing me just fine.

 

[newagemac]

Well said! Events should just be a link to a bunch of pictures you want grouped together. Removing an Event should not remove the originals.

That would be completely inconsistent with how iPhoto has always worked. Events always contain the actual originals. If you delete an event, it always deletes the photos contained in it. It is albums that are just links back to the originals and you can delete an album without actually deleting any original photos.

Apple seems to have done the correct thing.

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I read the website, the issue is not that I lost the galleries, it's that when Apple put the galleries back in my iPhoto Library, it linked them to the original files. So, when I dragged the "new" event called From Mobile Me, it took the files from the other Events and put them in the trash. So Apple didn't actually download the pictures to iPhoto for me, it just created an Event and linked the files to the originals.

Oh, and MrNomNoms, thanks for your "input" but there was nothing on the screen when I opened up iPhoto, I just saw a new Event and when I looked in it, I saw that it was just all the photos that I had put in galleries so I thought to myself "I already have these photos in other Events so why do I need copies of these" but these were not copies of the files, they were just links to the other originals.

Deleting events always deletes photos. You're thinking about albums. If Apple put them into an album then you would have been able to delete them with no problem. But if they are in an event, they aren't just links they are hard copies. You still could have had those pictures in another event though.

 

[HelveticaRoman]

Apple's position on iDisk seems to be along the lines of "You're the two thousandth person I've told today: there's no demand for it." Or am I being unfair on them?

 

[WilliamLondon]

I occasionally used MobileMe's file-sharing, but can live without it. The other day I tried CloudApp, a convenient way to put a file in the cloud and share a link.

I used iDisk all the time and will really miss it, sharing files easily with my family/friends in the US (I'm in the UK). DropBox is sort of expensive, but I did find a service that offers 5GB free (and upgradeable) which I'm trialling right now called SugarSync. Seems okay, and 5GB free is better than DropBox's 2GB free.

 

[AppleMark]

R.I.P

You will always me .mac to me...

 

[carboncow]

still hope there'll be something equivalent to iDisk in the future, but with Apple's push to having no accessible file system, I doubt it'll happen.

Maybe you are low need user but iDisk was a train wreck of slow speeds and a horrible implementation. If it's the most feature in the buddle for you why didn't you RUN to Drop Box? (fast) or Googles InSync (moderate) for far less then MobileMe ever cost?

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Such a shame. I've used iDisk constantly for years, as far back as .Mac. Such a silly move from Apple, reducing functionality. Been using Dropbox for the past week, it's not the same!

Iggy, DropBox is superior in every way to the file storage with iDisk...plus the speed of iDisk was unbearable. Sometimes 100x (no exaggeration) then Drop Box. To me iDisk was the worst feature in the MobileMe package!

What features are you missing?

 

[vampyr]

If MobileMe is no longer... why is there still a MobileMe icon in the settings of my Mac OSX Lion?

Also.. iPhoto has an option to link to MobileMe.

Shouldn't Apple remove these from their OS?

 

[sloken]

That would be completely inconsistent with how iPhoto has always worked. Events always contain the actual originals. If you delete an event, it always deletes the photos contained in it. It is albums that are just links back to the originals and you can delete an album without actually deleting any original photos.

Apple seems to have done the correct thing.

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Deleting events always deletes photos. You're thinking about albums. If Apple put them into an album then you would have been able to delete them with no problem. But if they are in an event, they aren't just links they are hard copies. You still could have had those pictures in another event though.

They moved the pictures and videos from the original event and put them in the new event though.

 

[AidenShaw]

Windows XP support was extended not out of pure heart as far as i recall. Rosetta was a transitional software. It was a given that at some point it would be dropped.

I was asking for links to announcements by Apple warning in advance that Rosetta would be discontinued.

Microsoft not only published clear support end dates, but listened to their customers and extended those dates.

 

[sananda]

Maybe you are low need user but iDisk was a train wreck of slow speeds and a horrible implementation.

It was slow via Finder but plenty fast via other methods.

 

[Peace]

Looks like iWork will be renovated by July 31st.

 

[maconservative]

Same thing here...

Any photos you uploaded to MobileMe Gallery will be put in your iPhoto library as an event called From MobileMe. But... These ARE NOT COPIES of your photos, they are the original photos from your iPhoto Library. When I deleted the event thinking it was just copies of the original photos, I luckily noticed that the photos were missing from the event that has the birth of my first son along with many others.

NOT COOL APPLE!!!

When I opened iPhoto, it automatically created a new album from all my photos from the MobileMe gallery. I had already made sure months ago that these photos from MobileMe were on my iMac. All of the these photos were of my daughter from when she was born until three years of age. iPhoto then proceeded to delete all Events associated with these photos and group them all into one "From MobileMe" Event and Album.

I spent a fair amount of time creating all these Events and Albums for a reason. Definitely not cool Apple.

 

[Over The Hill]

I was asking for links to announcements by Apple warning in advance that Rosetta would be discontinued.

Microsoft not only published clear support end dates, but listened to their customers and extended those dates.

I didn’t know Apple was bound to do so after when Apple supported this transitional software for 3 MAJOR Mac OS X releases.
Fact is some developers just kept sleeping this nice beauty sleep (like Intuit). The train has arrived and departed the station.

I agree though that setting that date from the start would have been more clear.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

By general storage, I meant something like idisk and dropbox, where the user controls the organization of documents of arbitrary type. I don't know what Apple will do with iWork. It will certainly allow you to store documents on iCloud, but I would guess the apps remain apps. But really, the app store model of distributing software and updates moves traditional native apps closer to the SAAS model in many practical respects. You can start to think of a device as an end point for running your software and accessing your documents that happens to include a cache for these resources.

Hey, and then Apple reminds people that iWork.com is going bye bye at the end of July in favor of iCloud.

I am so not feeling the love from iCloud, and I hope someone from Apple trips across this spleen vent:

It's too damn complicated. Why? Well, my spouse has a yahoo.com email address. Had it for years. They are attached to it. They get an iPhone and are setup with a MobileMe account. Then an AppleID, of which they already had one. The AppleID is their name, the MobileMe address is a contraction of their name. They get a new i-something device, and try to set it up. They get an error on the AppleID. Frantically they enter their yahoo.com email address and *POOF* they have changed their AppleID to their yahoo.com address. We fight to get their calendar shared and finally pull it off. Things are working great. Until (ominous music crescendos in the background) iCloud comes around. *BOOM* they convert their (what they think is their) MobileMe address (still *@mac.com) and it appears to work. OK... Well, calendar's won't share. Hmmm... MobileMe announcement comes out: "I'ts gone". No idea what the Apple ID is. No idea what the password for the *@mac.com password is, and no way apparently to change it. Calendar's still don't work. Try to login to iCloud. Nope. Password is bad. Odd that... On and on and on... Finally give up...

Somehow, there apparently are TWO AppleID's, ONE mac.com email address, no way to change password. TWO ID's for iTunes! Nothing works, nothing easy to change. Finally got one AppleID password changed, but the mac.com email is on the other AppleID which we can't get the password changed on because we can't get the damn name of the AppleID it's under...

Cussing, swearing, loud language... Dropped the whole thing... It's too damn complicated...

PLUS not to mention that the frustration level builds, and the yelling starts, and then nothing is accomplished. It's bad when even I am frustrated.

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Windows XP support was extended not out of pure heart as far as i recall. Rosetta was a transitional software. It was a given that at some point it would be dropped.

XP support was extended because of Vista, and people's reluctance to go to Windows 7...