whats the point of Cydias blobs? i thought if you didnt have them save on your computer with tiny umbrella than you can restore to that iOS anyways or did i misunderstand that
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Apple signing 4.1 right now???
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You need to have blobs to restore to older firmware.
You can have them on cydia or saved on your computer but you do need them.
ok i get that, but for instance ive only ever had 4.1 on my iphone and ive restored to 4.1 a few times no issues
cydia has 4.1 and up to 4.3.3 on the top of my cydia homepage, does that mean i can restore to 4.2.1 for instance?
You have the blob for 4.1 saved, as indicated on Cydia. Also, you can reinstall as long as Apple is signing for the blob. It's likely you somehow edited your host file.
As long as you use either TU or edit your host file, then you can install any ios where you have the blob.
As long as you use either TU or edit your host file, then you can install any ios where you have the blob.
correct, Tiny Umbrella tells my i have 4.1 saved which makes sense its the only iOS i have ever had, my confusion is why does cydia list 4.1, 4.2.1, 4.2b3, 4.3, 4.3.3
am i wrong to assume the only old firmware i can restore to is 4.1 becasue thats all i actually saved with tiny umbrella?
You can restore to any firmware you have a blob for. It makes no difference what software is on your phone. If Cydia lists those blobs, it has them, and you can restore to them.
ok ive restored just last week staying on 4.1 so i kind of get how to restore to an older firmware
i downloaded 4.1 firmware, started TinyUmbrella, stat TSS Server, then in itunes Hold Shift click restore, found the 4.1 firmware and boom
now since i dont have the blobs for any other firmware saved locally is it the exact same process to lets say try 4.2.1 or do i something different if the blobs are not saved locally
If your hosts file redirects to cydia you dont need to use TU as long as cydia has them on file.
All you do is shift-restore and you're done.
sounds like its much easier if they are saved locally, i dont know what a host file is
Usually when you run TU it automaticly changes the hosts file to redirect to cydia so you dont really have to do anything but open up itunes and shift restore to the firmware you want as long as you got shsh blobs for that phone on cydia.
kept getting a 1013 error, i think i got some bad instructions on changing the host file, ended up updating right to 4.3.3 and re jailbroke
now when i went back to tinyumbrella to save my 4.3.3 blobs its saved them and filled in everything between 4.1 and 4.3.3 so if i dont like 4.3.3 i think downgrading will be easier now that they are saved locally
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Hey Applejuiced or anyone else. Could you please tell me what these comments mean? What are blobs and should I also be editing my host file? iPhone host file or Mac host file? What does TU do? Are blobs like "firmware cookies"?
Saving locally makes no difference. Error is from failure to sign the baseband and is normal. Just open tinyumbrella select the device and click Exit Recovery. Easy.
Blobs are the signatures apple sends out to authorize iTunes to proceed with the restore. Apple only issues them while the firmware is the current version. You can tell programs like cydia to save then for you for future use. Tinyumbrella can also be used to save them to your hard drive or save them from cydias servers. Editing the hosts file directs iTunes to cydias servers insted of apples where it recieves the saves sig. Tu can be used with locally saved sigs to emulate the authorization server as well. Two ways of doing the same thing.
So why do people use this method? Incase you need to downgrade your firmware? Can't you just edit anyone's blob file and insert your phone's unique ID?
Thank you. I don't need to downgrade but thanks for the post. Might need it some day.
Had the responder took the time to read he would have known about the 3 facts. It was a rude OP, people just has to start paying attention and if it requires brusqueness then so be it.
No, shsh blobs are unique to each phone.
If you could use one set of blobs and edit it to insert any iphones serial we wouldnt be doing all this in the first place.
I did read the OP's post and ignored the nonsense that the phone wasn't refurbished. S/he had gotten a replacement from the apple store, so it would've been refurbished.
It's no different than ignoring some idiot who blathers about how the planet is only 5000 years old, but then talks about the latest dinosaur find. I'm going to stick to the factual information.
It's no different than ignoring some idiot who blathers about how the planet is only 5000 years old, but then talks about the latest dinosaur find. I'm going to stick to the factual information.
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Interestingly, I've had three referbs in as many weeks (3GS). First two had problems and had to be returned (microphone issue and row of red pixels). All three had 4.1 blobs saved on cydia and no others besides 4.3.3. Could be a coincidence but it us suspicious. If my original phone were referbed the next owner would have all blobs since 3.1.3.
Interestingly, I've had three referbs in as many weeks (3GS). First two had problems and had to be returned (microphone issue and row of red pixels). All three had 4.1 blobs saved on cydia and no others besides 4.3.3. Could be a coincidence but it us suspicious. If my original phone were referbed the next owner would have all blobs since 3.1.3.
Just had to check out this thread and back up the OP.
To be clear, for some users, Apple is still signing iOS 4.1. Apple. Not Cydia.
I can bring my iPhone 3GS to any computer, anywhere, and restore to iOS 4.1. Apple is still signing it for me, no need to use Cydia or anything else.
I got my iPhone 3GS back when 3.x was new. So there was no way someone had it before me and backed up a future iOS blob with it.
I even rolled back from iOS 5.0 b1 straight to iOS 4.1 through iTunes without having to edit my hosts file. That contradicts both Apple's claim of users being unable to downgrade from 5.0, and the many claims by a lot of people that say Apple doesn't sign old iOS installs.
To be clear, for some users, Apple is still signing iOS 4.1. Apple. Not Cydia.
I can bring my iPhone 3GS to any computer, anywhere, and restore to iOS 4.1. Apple is still signing it for me, no need to use Cydia or anything else.
I got my iPhone 3GS back when 3.x was new. So there was no way someone had it before me and backed up a future iOS blob with it.
I even rolled back from iOS 5.0 b1 straight to iOS 4.1 through iTunes without having to edit my hosts file. That contradicts both Apple's claim of users being unable to downgrade from 5.0, and the many claims by a lot of people that say Apple doesn't sign old iOS installs.