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Apple Signs EMI, Cloud Music Deals Almost Done

Forgive my ignorance if I don't know exactly how this cloud music idea will work, but it sounds like instead of hosting my music locally I can store it remotely and stream it, correct?

Will this put any pressure on the service providers to offer unlimited data again, because I listen to my music a lot. Perhaps this wouldn't be for me, then, but certainly there are others in the same boat.
 
Dmcgee123 said:
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Really, anything short of being able to upload 80+ GB of non-iTunes music will elicit a big fat yawn from me. And I seriously doubt this will happen, so...can't say I'm too excited about iCloud.
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^ This.
 
Yeah I'm extremely excited about only being able to host iTunes/EMI only content. Thanks but no thanks. Oh and good luck to the music labels trying to shut Amazon/Google cloud services down. :rolleyes:
 
Full of Wind......Have you tried Beano?

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Just waiting for the "only iTunes purchased music" hammer to fall. When / if it does, this will be slightly more popular than Ping is currently.
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philbeeney said:
Why do I have this feeling that once Apple has signed and closed these deals, Amazon and Google will be stung with a cease & desist from the RIAA for their cloud music efforts, leaving just Apple as the only place to go for cloud music.
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Do you really think that a C&D letter will stop the likes of Goolge and Amazon? Seriously? I'd bet that Google and Amazon has enough lawyers to tell them what they are doing is legal, and if sued, they can tie up the RIAA for YEARS in the court system in expensive litigation that they can easily absorb financially.

Just look at the lengths that Google has gone with Google Print in the legal system. They are willing to go to court, and will laugh at any C&D letter that comes their way.
 
Dmcgee123 said:
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Really, anything short of being able to upload 80+ GB of non-iTunes music will elicit a big fat yawn from me. And I seriously doubt this will happen, so...can't say I'm too excited about iCloud.
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Seriously?

How long would that take? And why chew bandwidth when Apple already has a copy of each of your songs on their servers?

The best solution would be that a list of your music in iTunes is given to Apple using some sort of software (we could call it genius) and then you just stream the song that is already stored on their servers.
 
I won't use this service 'cause they'll make you pay for it, that's why mobile me failed.
 
Spooner83 said:
I won't use this service 'cause they'll make you pay for it, that's why mobile me failed.
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No, MobileMe failed because Apple charged for something that was offered for free from Google, and wasn't as good as Google.
 
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Woohoo!
 
I recognize there are people with very large music collections that will benefit from this type of service, but based on my own speculation:

90% of Apple users have music collections < 5gb
5% of Apple users have collections between 5gb to 10gb
5% of users have collections over 10gb

For the first two groups is there really a benefit to storing your music in the cloud? Most computers, iPhones and iPod Touches can probably spare 5gbs and some 10gbs of storage space without running out. The only other benefit I see to storage in a cloud (other than space) is not having to sync your music but I really wonder how big of a benefit this is. I'd prefer to have my music stored locally on my macs and my iPhone. All of my old iPods that have less space don't have internet connections so wouldn't benefit either. I'm also guessing most of Apple users will be in the same boat.

Am I missing something here? Now if we were talking about video where you could prove you own a DVD/Blu-ray, then I would be a complete believer.
 
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Just waiting for the "only iTunes purchased music" hammer to fall. When / if it does, this will be slightly more popular than Ping is currently.
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thank you

i bought over a thousand cds - all legit - and if i can't get those on this 'cloud'

steve jobs can suck it.

i can just imagine supporters go - 'well u should repurchase it because it's so convenient - u have it via download or in the cloud man!'

then you'll have the cynic go - 'well what do u expect? it's apple :D'
 
Full of Win said:
Never said it was going to happen, just saying what I think the outcome would be IF it were to happen that way. I would elated if this deal was source agnostic, however, I think there is a distinct possibility that it will be for iTunes only acquired content.
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If it does happen it won't be because of Apple, blame the music industry!! :rolleyes:
 
The grand strategy

This service will go hand-in-hand with the iPhone Nano, which is likely to have limited storage at best. It will be the first cloud-based phone, be cheap, and be extremely popular. It will also further tie users to the Apple ecosystem.
 
They should change emails from @me.com to @apple.com

Then it would get some some real attention.
 
Here lies the death of capacity updates just to try to push this cloud crap down our throats.

Thanks but no thanks. Can't get a good signal everywhere, pointless and lame in my opinion.
 
coder12 said:
We'll see how far this goes, I'd really like to be able to upload my 8gb of music to the cloud for on the road!
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Any reason a file synching service like Dropbox wouldn't work for your purposes?

Me, I'm a bit puzzled by all the commotion around moving things to the almighty cloud. Macs come with all kinds of goodies built-in, including SSH which, with a little know-how, will allow you to remotely and securely connect to your home computer and access all of your files from anywhere. What's the benefit of farming that reasonably simple task out to some big corporate entity?
 
arian19 said:
They should change emails from @me.com to @apple.com

Then it would get some some real attention.
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I agree, nowt ore embarrassing than giving the me.com address over the phone or business card. I actually blush when doing it. @gmail.com sounds much better and not so pedantic.

As for the cloud, Im in agreement with another poster who said that it will only apply to music you have purchased via iTunes as Apple know already what you have purchased thus when it goes live it will be available immediately. Should be interesting though. Mobileme is a disaster and they have the neck to charge you for it. They should at least give you free mail access.

I have currently set up a free Gmail account and I am suitably impressed with the whole mail experience (its free & secure) the google docs is a nice little touch and if you are an incredibly light user it negates the need for iWork or MS Office.

Google seem to have a better grasp on what a person actually wants unlike Apple who force upon us what they want you to have. Next few years should be interesting. not dissing Apple I love the hardware and my Blackbook has served me well with the only problem being the top case being replaced due to the known issue of cracking. Thats more than what I can say for my old Dell desktop and Inspiron notebook. Judging on the amazing new iMac performance Im holding out for what a new MacPro may offer.
 
new apple cloud

Is this Apples do-over for MobileMe? Did anyone really use MobileMe for anything other than find my phone? Idk maybe they'll do it right this time and revolutionize the Cloud like they've revolutionized everything else they've touched in the past 10 years. I think the cloud is a good concept it just has a long way to go until its really worth signing up for, in my opinion anyways..
 
ks-man said:
I recognize there are people with very large music collections that will benefit from this type of service, but based on my own speculation:

90% of Apple users have music collections < 5gb
5% of Apple users have collections between 5gb to 10gb
5% of users have collections over 10gb

For the first two groups is there really a benefit to storing your music in the cloud? Most computers, iPhones and iPod Touches can probably spare 5gbs and some 10gbs of storage space without running out. The only other benefit I see to storage in a cloud (other than space) is not having to sync your music but I really wonder how big of a benefit this is. I'd prefer to have my music stored locally on my macs and my iPhone. All of my old iPods that have less space don't have internet connections so wouldn't benefit either. I'm also guessing most of Apple users will be in the same boat.

Am I missing something here? Now if we were talking about video where you could prove you own a DVD/Blu-ray, then I would be a complete believer.
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If you have a 16 GB Ipad or Iphone, a 8bg Ipod Touch...having free access to a music cloud can free up much needed space.
 
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With a 2gb data cap, I'm trying to find the usefulness for this...though it does sound interesting.
 
I will only be able to consider it if there is some kind of element of cross platform compatibility (third party API's would be nice!). If not, it wouldn't be worth anything to me.

No-one has matched Audiogalaxy for this yet. One can hope!
 
there are several tiers in terms of what they can do

1) just let you access your itunes download history and stream it
2) upload metadata (or just access genius if you have it turned on) and let you access any tracks that match in the itunes store
3) 2+any tracks that don't match get uploaded physically allowing you to stream them (lala model)

I'd like 3, but I expect at least 2. 1 would be too restrictive, Apple knows people have tons of music from CDs etc. 2 is fairly easy to do - itunes already has genius which chews on your collection and uploads it, so they may even already have your entire collection under your account name.

The only thing I really don't understand is the need to license this. The only difference between this model and google is a physical upload, wasting space and bandwidth. the end result is the same - streaming a music track.
 
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