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Just release an Intel 13900k Mac Pro and call it a day. That CPU runs circles around anything and everything Apple has to offer. Jesus christ, it's NOT that hard. A company worth 3 trillion dollars cant sell a good computer? That's embarrassing.
Agreed. Good lord Apple needs to give more focus to the Mac. M1 was amazing. But this year has been so disappointing.

It’s the whole AR/VR attention that’s making macs lose focus. Apple is doing too much.
 
To me, the two most-likely reasons for this are:
  1. the M2 Ultra is not ready, or
  2. Apple still has not been able to create a compelling reason to market this model of Mac Pro
While I find both reasons odd, #2 seems more odd to me than #1. But then again, we're all just guessing here. :)
I suspect that M1 Ultra Mac Pro didn't ship because Apple figured the M2 Quadra would be ready... and it wasn't.

Maybe the M2 Ultra package is fine, but there are challenges with the PCIe bridge. Getting higher generation if PCIe working over the motherboard, and Apple just being really gun-shy about releasing the Mac Pro with an M* Ultra and not having the M* Quadra to really "sell it".
 
Apple still really struggling on a unified mac product line. Too many variables. I understood the slow roll out the first year but now everything should come out at once....then it becomes clear what you need.
The struggle is only down to update for Studio Mac and getting the Mac Pro out there. Both could be shown at WWDC.
 
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Regarding the MBA I have no reason at all to upgrade my M1, 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM. It is so good already. I could easily go another couple of years with it. The only thing that would make me upgrade is a significant improvement in battery life.
 
What Apple rumors are nowadays:

- under display FaceID… delayed, not coming until 202x and when that time nears, delayed again
- under display TouchID… delayed, not coming until 202x and when that time nears, delayed again
- iMac 27… same
- blood glucose monitoring for Apple Watch… same
- bigger MacBook Air… same
- cheaper AppleTV… same
- new Mac Pro… same
- more than 5K display… same

The sensation is always that Apple underdelivers…
You forgot about 10 topics about AR/VR in between each of those!
 
Is it just me or are the updated processors a complete mess? Wouldn't one think processors would trickle down from high end device to low end device, or is that just rational thought?
Maybe, but the iPhone is easily the most important product Apple has, so it gets all the love, and the new stuff first. So low power to high power it is...
 
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They made such a big deal with the 2019 Mac Pro about how they care about their most demanding pro customers and now it’s back to square one.

They need to either dedicate their efforts to it fully and not half-baked or just end the line. The lack of communication must not be pleasing to professionals.
We should see more attention to the pros vs the cheapest models. Without pros, macOS will lack software which will make it a dead platform to begin with so it causes the MacBook Air purchasers to not want macs too.

Who the heck cares really if the Air gets updated every year. Where is your focus to the pro market?
 
Hey Tim, how about we give those Mac sales a little nudge while you continue to figure out what to do with the Mac Pro? Let's stick that M2 Max chip onto the Mac Studio, upgrade a few of its ports to match the new MacBook Pro, and voila! You will make loads of pro customers very happy, and they will also momentarily forget that we're still waiting for that big cheese grater.
Yes! That’s all I ask for!
 
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Is it just me or are the updated processors a complete mess? Wouldn't one think processors would trickle down from high end device to low end device, or is that just rational thought?
Right? Especially since Apple has competition in the high end vs the energy efficient laptop segment/phones.

Apple needs to compete with AMD and Intel on their flagship processors, yet is waiting for fall to launch their first processor based off the A17 cores and its for a phone, which they are crushing all metrics in already..
 
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Releasing a 13900K Mac Pro would be pointless...

However, the Xeon W-3400 chips that Intel just released this year WOULD be a perfectly valid upgrade for the existing Mac Pro line.

Of course, the chance that Apple does that is somewhere around 2% :)
No, it'd make perfect sense. It would outperform their current Mac Pros and wouldnt cost 50 THOUSAND dollars. Effing insanity.. beyond insanity. Tim Cook's gone completely mental thinking an outdated desktop should cost that much.
 
They take SO LONG to put out/update products that matter (27 iMac, XDR display, this) and it’s always an anti-climax of nonsensical feature/functionality decisions when they finally come. Who cares anymore
To the contrary… the products ‘that matter’ are the ones which sell in higher volumes. Those are the ones they are puting out.
 
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Only if you love running 32 bit App compatible Windows 11 with its Direct X 12 support. Macs are ARM based, and MS Windows 11 for ARM can only do Direct X 11.
And most stuff runs on windows and a lot of stuff is exclusive to windows.
 
Is it just me or are the updated processors a complete mess? Wouldn't one think processors would trickle down from high end device to low end device, or is that just rational thought?

It's not so much rational thought as it is how we have been conditioned to think due to the CPU and GPU product strategies of Intel and nVidia/AMD where they develop the most-powerful processor first and then "de-rate" it by removing cores or slowing them down for the "value" models.

Apple Silicon is designed around the iPhone SoC because that is what is most important to Apple. Once that SoC is done, they take the CPU and GPU core architecture and "up-rate" it with more cores at higher clock-speeds for the Mac SoCs (and add in the additional functions that a Mac needs and an iPhone does not).
 
Just release an Intel 13900k Mac Pro and call it a day. That CPU runs circles around anything and everything Apple has to offer. Jesus christ, it's NOT that hard. A company worth 3 trillion dollars cant sell a good computer? That's embarrassing.
I don't think that will happen, it just seems so wrong to maintain macOS x86_64 for one single computer, and that being the one with the lowest sales numbers.
 
How so? My M1 Max and M1 Ultra Studio computers are fabulous. Very reliable and very fast. I don't give a darn if the new Intels are 50 times faster. What difference would it make to me or 90% of users? And just how would you propose Apple make a transition back to x86?
Apple has no way to compete to the top end market. Look I love my macs. I have 4 M1* and in some ways (ahem video editing) it’s better than my 13th gen i9 and 4090 desktop. But in many many MANY other areas, that Intel system is better by a factor of multiples.

How about if I need some work done my only choice is Windows. Apple needs to focus more on the Mac Pro level of devices. Because right now, it’s jus Windows. AMD graphics cards still give me issues so it’s only Intel and Nvidia for my windows systems.

Note we are talking about desktops Mac Pro like systems.
 
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