I think he means dual external monitor support. Which both laptops lack.Which machine lacks dual monitor support?
This is really the most interesting thing to me in all of this. I would have expected the Mini to have a wider margin over the laptops."but... but... but... the Air is fanless so it must be thermal throttling like hell... right? Right? RIGHT??"
I don't get the comment about the Mac Mini's power supply. Apple probably didn't redesign it, that's all. When they do the design refresh I'm sure they will. Just because it has a 150W PSU, doesn't mean it draws 150W. In fact, Anandtech measured it drawing just over 4W at idle, and 31W under full load.
They do?I think he means dual external monitor support. Which both laptops lack.
Wait I just saw the tech specs on this. So let me just ask straight up. Are you taking about 1 monitor PER port? OR just TOTAL of ONE external monitor is supported? If the latter is the case that is a huge a deal breaker.If you check the tech specs it's sadly only 1 over TB, and an extra over the HDMI port on the Mini... MacBooks only support 1. Quite a drawback, these are not for Pros and very early releases... I am quite surprised they were happy releasing these with support for only 1 TB display
Considering many people would pay to have the touchbar removed, the MBA is one heck of a deal.This is really the most interesting thing to me in all of this. I would have expected the Mini to have a wider margin over the laptops.
It’s looking like my next machine is gonna be an Air.
What does the size of a power supply have to do with efficiency? How many of us have PSUs that can provide much more power than the computer uses? Anandtech covers the power draw (the Mac Mini peaks at about 31 W of power draw):
Specs sheets confirm that only 1 external monitor is supported. I haven’t tested yet because I don’t have any relevant adapters/hubs but I’m 99% sure the official spec sheets aren’t mistaken.They do?
Am I missing something from the specs? You can run multiple monitors off a single Thunderbolt 3 port.
Technically the 5Ks do exactly that. (Guessing the same is true for the 6Ks.)
All M1 macs support only two monitor outputs including the built in screen that counts as a monitor, so that’s one external monitor for the laptops and two for the mini, which is what everyone is rightfully complaining about.Wait I just saw the tech specs on this. So let me just ask straight up. Are you taking about 1 monitor PER port? OR just TOTAL of ONE external monitor is supported? If the latter is the case that is a huge a deal breaker.
No matter how hard I try to justify and rationalize this design decision, it still looks flat-out unfathomable to me.
The spec sheets have to be talking about the physical ports while making an assumption about charging. If the 5K is supported (which it is) that’s two DisplayPort streams which means pretty much any TB device with multiple DisplayPorts (or DisplayPort + a daisy chained Thunderbolt port) should work as expected.Specs sheets confirm that only 1 external monitor is supported. I haven’t tested yet because I don’t have any relevant adapters/hubs but I’m 99% sure the official spec sheets aren’t mistaken.
It’s a well-known limitation of these MacBooks right now.
The Mac mini supports dual displays, but one has to be through the HDMI port.
I just hope apple are working overtime to miniaturise FaceID enough for the inevitable new form factors in 2021.I don't understand it either, and it's not just Apple. Dell's latest XPS laptop cameras are 720p as well. Why they do that with a supposedly premium product blows my mind.
Wow okay. I didn’t read enough into it. Yea that’s a deal breaker here. I’d assume it’s pretty basic to support at least two monitors (NOT including the laptop screen). Thanks.All M1 macs support only two monitor outputs including the built in screen that counts as a monitor, so that’s one external monitor for the laptops and two for the mini, which is what everyone is rightfully complaining about.
Yeah, it seems to be an artificial limitation or MST (multi stream transport?) is not implemented in the silicone. Apparently MST isn’t a mandated feature of the DisplayPort spec. 🤷♂️The spec sheets have to be talking about the physical ports while making an assumption about charging. If the 5K is supported (which it is) that’s two DisplayPort streams which means pretty much any TB device with multiple DisplayPorts (or DisplayPort + a daisy chained Thunderbolt port) should work as expected.
Short of some bizarre, artificial limitation I just can’t see why these wouldn’t. The support of Apple’s 6K means the M1 can push more than enough pixels.
Did they finally implement display port daisy chaining without mirroring?They do?
Am I missing something from the specs? You can run multiple monitors off a single Thunderbolt 3 port.
Technically the 5Ks do exactly that. (Guessing the same is true for the 6Ks.)
Which ones? The Dell XPS 13 has a grainy 720p. I have a recent XPS 15 with the same poor quality 720p camera.I'll completely disagree here. Almost every laptop in the same class has a 1080P camera.
Actually I just looked based on this conversation.Yeah, it seems to be an artificial limitation or MST (multi stream transport?) is not implemented in the silicone. Apparently MST isn’t a mandated feature of the DisplayPort spec. 🤷♂️
It’s pretty scummy of Apple if true, it has to be said.
I have no use for dual external displays on a laptop of the MBA class, but to not have it on the MBP is unacceptable.