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These reviews (9.5 at the Verge, 94% on Engadget, etc) makes me even more happy with buying the new MacBook Air** to replace my year old+ MBP (with 2 TB ports). Seems like a no-brainer now... :)

** Last seen on Pudong Airport in Shanghai en route to Bergen, Norway.
 
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It sounds like they did a hell of a great job with these. I do hope in the future we see the ability to virtualize as I would love to replace my 16 inch with one of the future AS 14 or 16 inch models in several years.
 
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A good test of Real World Performance would be to see how fast, in fps, can it Decode Full-Res 12.2 Mpx HEIC photos of a 30-photo Image Sequence that is Playing in an Editor !

And then to compare it to the latest iPhones (about 15 fps, last time I checked).

Which BTW, is precisely what I'm working on today !

NO MORE synthetic benchmarks ! ... moving on to Real World tests !

Wasn't thinking about buying an M1 Apple Silicon Mac, until late yesterday afternoon, when App Store Connect said one of my apps was compatible with M1 Apple Silicon Macs !

Until that point, had NOT even considered it !

It was an OMG moment !

I suspect many other App Devs with High Perf iOS apps are now ALSO in the same Camp.
 
"but... but... but... the Air is fanless so it must be thermal throttling like hell... right? Right? RIGHT??"
This is really the most interesting thing to me in all of this. I would have expected the Mini to have a wider margin over the laptops.

It’s looking like my next machine is gonna be an Air.
 
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I don't get the comment about the Mac Mini's power supply. Apple probably didn't redesign it, that's all. When they do the design refresh I'm sure they will. Just because it has a 150W PSU, doesn't mean it draws 150W. In fact, Anandtech measured it drawing just over 4W at idle, and 31W under full load.

I wonder if it has to do with how much power its USB-C ports can provide? Unlikely it's the maximum 100 Watts (one port). But could be 30 Watts each.
 
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I think he means dual external monitor support. Which both laptops lack.
They do?

Am I missing something from the specs? You can run multiple monitors off a single Thunderbolt 3 port.

Technically the 5Ks do exactly that. (Guessing the same is true for the 6Ks.)
 
If you check the tech specs it's sadly only 1 over TB, and an extra over the HDMI port on the Mini... MacBooks only support 1. Quite a drawback, these are not for Pros and very early releases... I am quite surprised they were happy releasing these with support for only 1 TB display
Wait I just saw the tech specs on this. So let me just ask straight up. Are you taking about 1 monitor PER port? OR just TOTAL of ONE external monitor is supported? If the latter is the case that is a huge a deal breaker.
 
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This bodes really well for the upcoming MBP16, the high-end MBP 13, and iMac. Looks like I may be doing a couple of upgrades in my house.
 
What does the size of a power supply have to do with efficiency? How many of us have PSUs that can provide much more power than the computer uses? Anandtech covers the power draw (the Mac Mini peaks at about 31 W of power draw):

A larger power supply that is used at a lower percentage of it’s capacity is not as efficient as a smaller power supply being used at a higher load relative to it’s rating.

 
They do?

Am I missing something from the specs? You can run multiple monitors off a single Thunderbolt 3 port.

Technically the 5Ks do exactly that. (Guessing the same is true for the 6Ks.)
Specs sheets confirm that only 1 external monitor is supported. I haven’t tested yet because I don’t have any relevant adapters/hubs but I’m 99% sure the official spec sheets aren’t mistaken.

It’s a well-known limitation of these MacBooks right now.
The Mac mini supports dual displays, but one has to be through the HDMI port.
 
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Wait I just saw the tech specs on this. So let me just ask straight up. Are you taking about 1 monitor PER port? OR just TOTAL of ONE external monitor is supported? If the latter is the case that is a huge a deal breaker.
All M1 macs support only two monitor outputs including the built in screen that counts as a monitor, so that’s one external monitor for the laptops and two for the mini, which is what everyone is rightfully complaining about.
 
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No matter how hard I try to justify and rationalize this design decision, it still looks flat-out unfathomable to me.

I don't understand it either, and it's not just Apple. Dell's latest XPS laptop cameras are 720p as well. Why they do that with a supposedly premium product blows my mind.
 
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Specs sheets confirm that only 1 external monitor is supported. I haven’t tested yet because I don’t have any relevant adapters/hubs but I’m 99% sure the official spec sheets aren’t mistaken.

It’s a well-known limitation of these MacBooks right now.
The Mac mini supports dual displays, but one has to be through the HDMI port.
The spec sheets have to be talking about the physical ports while making an assumption about charging. If the 5K is supported (which it is) that’s two DisplayPort streams which means pretty much any TB device with multiple DisplayPorts (or DisplayPort + a daisy chained Thunderbolt port) should work as expected.

Short of some bizarre, artificial limitation I just can’t see why these wouldn’t. The support of Apple’s 6K means the M1 can push more than enough pixels.
 
I don't understand it either, and it's not just Apple. Dell's latest XPS laptop cameras are 720p as well. Why they do that with a supposedly premium product blows my mind.
I just hope apple are working overtime to miniaturise FaceID enough for the inevitable new form factors in 2021.

I’m OK with a **** camera because I use Camo, but seeing the quality of that camera made me wretch a little.
 
All M1 macs support only two monitor outputs including the built in screen that counts as a monitor, so that’s one external monitor for the laptops and two for the mini, which is what everyone is rightfully complaining about.
Wow okay. I didn’t read enough into it. Yea that’s a deal breaker here. I’d assume it’s pretty basic to support at least two monitors (NOT including the laptop screen). Thanks.
 
The spec sheets have to be talking about the physical ports while making an assumption about charging. If the 5K is supported (which it is) that’s two DisplayPort streams which means pretty much any TB device with multiple DisplayPorts (or DisplayPort + a daisy chained Thunderbolt port) should work as expected.

Short of some bizarre, artificial limitation I just can’t see why these wouldn’t. The support of Apple’s 6K means the M1 can push more than enough pixels.
Yeah, it seems to be an artificial limitation or MST (multi stream transport?) is not implemented in the silicone. Apparently MST isn’t a mandated feature of the DisplayPort spec. 🤷‍♂️
It’s pretty scummy of Apple if true, it has to be said.

I have no use for dual external displays on a laptop of the MBA class, but to not have it on the MBP is unacceptable.
 
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They do?

Am I missing something from the specs? You can run multiple monitors off a single Thunderbolt 3 port.

Technically the 5Ks do exactly that. (Guessing the same is true for the 6Ks.)
Did they finally implement display port daisy chaining without mirroring?
 
Just plugged in my new mbp with m1 in my lg 49wl95c-w with usb c. Max resolution I can get is 3840x1080...!

I have also the latest intel mbp here and it works just fine in 5120x1440! :(
 
I'll completely disagree here. Almost every laptop in the same class has a 1080P camera.
Which ones? The Dell XPS 13 has a grainy 720p. I have a recent XPS 15 with the same poor quality 720p camera.

The HP Spectre x360 has 1080p but it's not great quality. The Pixelbook Go has one (and supposedly decent). The Surface Laptop 3 is 720p (but has good optics).

Do you know any laptops other than those that have good quality webcams (especially 1080p)?

I haven't kept track of if Lenovo is including 1080p cameras (or at least better quality ones) in their MacBook Air/entry level business laptops.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/laptops-need-better-webcams/
 
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I think I'll need to stack two Mac Minis. One for performance and the other for Virtualbox stuff and perhaps audio production. If the M1 one can run my iZotope, PositiveGrid, Apogee plugins and Apogee audio interface, it would be nice. Professionals will need an additional Intel Mac for running incompatible stuff. I presume Rosetta 2 won't make miracles if you need driver-level compatibility.
 
Yeah, it seems to be an artificial limitation or MST (multi stream transport?) is not implemented in the silicone. Apparently MST isn’t a mandated feature of the DisplayPort spec. 🤷‍♂️
It’s pretty scummy of Apple if true, it has to be said.

I have no use for dual external displays on a laptop of the MBA class, but to not have it on the MBP is unacceptable.
Actually I just looked based on this conversation.

Looks like the newer Thunderbolt chipsets support DisplayPort 1.4. I’m guessing the 5K and 6K are over single streams now.

What a bizarre limitation. This is the first really piece of annoying news I’ve heard on these things. Hopefully that’s no longer an issue when the M2 comes out. (Admittedly, a 5K is good enough for me! But still. That’s just weird.)
 
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