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Battery life on M1 MBP looks amazing compared to Intel MBP

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I’ve been holding off on replacing a 2012 MacBook Air until it finally stops being functional. It’s just about there and obviously these new M1 Airs are a huge upgrade. I’m just worried about which RAM to go with. Is 8GB going to be enough to last for several years (future proofing)? Probably the most intensive thing I do is light editing in Photos.
Having been saddled with not enough RAM in a MBPro because of other hardware limitations and because the RAM in the latest is presumably not upgradable, I'm going to get at least 16GB, if not 32GB (if I can afford it).
 
Dieter Bohn remarked that "The MacBook Air with the M1 chip is the most impressive laptop I've used in years."

Note: He did say most impressive minimum laptop or netbook. He said Laptop, as in all of them. And this is the entry level! Imagine the PRO stuff when it comes out although I have my doubts it will be much superior, this is too amazing already to beat!

As a life-long Mac user, I feel like I’m dreaming right now. This is all so exciting, and I can’t wait for the Pro machines to get these processors.

I remember how exciting the Intel switch was in 2006, and this is so much better!
Teenager me would be banging his head to the wall in excitement. I really wish this will increase Apple's market share from its measly 15% up to something more like 30%. That will turn Apple's attention more to the Mac as a main source of income not just concentrate on the "i" devices. This also means great and better support and apps for Mac users as it gains more users.

Hardly surprising. Apple Silicone on Macs is a Leapfrog!
Btw... is there any possibility of spinning this into a negative news? I ask, because I have noticed lot of talent around here.

Ahem...let me demonstrate my skills:

-"Who wants a laptop that runs just MacOS when there are laptops that can run both MacOS and Windows!?"
-"Non-upgradable internals means no future proofing! I rather spend my money else where"
-"Great hardware, but where is the software? Computers without software are as good as solid bricks!"
-"So I paid $6K for a Mac Pro just a year ago and now they bring out a more powerful $900 machine!? This is the last time I am buying anything from this company!"
 
I wonder why Apple keeps shipping those "bad" cameras since they seem so big on them they put 3 in a cellphone.
While people call them "bad" those 720P once are to die for I'd say a decade ago. Yes I know things got advanced I am just saying same quality was mind blowing...its bad in comparison.
 
I am really liking these. At least the 8gb air for my kid.

I just need to know how it handles minecraft.
 
Ahem...let me demonstrate my skills:

-"Who wants a laptop that runs just MacOS when there are laptops that can run both MacOS and Windows!?"
-"Non-upgradable internals means no future proofing! I rather spend my money else where"
-"Great hardware, but where is the software? Computers without software are as good as solid bricks!"
-"So I paid $6K for a Mac Pro just a year ago and now they bring out a more powerful $900 machine!? This is the last time I am buying anything from this company!"
To be fair, the saltiness in the last item is understandable.
 
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It will never happen. You can’t virtualize between two completely different cpu architectures. That is why they are not taking about it. It is a very different product.

It will require emulation instead and I don’t see VMWare or Parallels ever going that route.

And that is my problem, at least for the time being. Hopefully there is a solution by the time I update the 16 inch I just purchased.
 
OK, unfortunately, no time to skim through all the reviews, so here's a question : did any of these reviewers test IOS apps compatibility and, if so, how does it work?

eg: Is there any way to map touch screen functions to keyboard keys and/or trackpad or mouse?
What about some auto-rotate function, switching a portrait-oriented app to landscape orientation (albeit with black bars on the side)?
 
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for the next revision, IMHO, i would be interested to see bumped up SSD/RAM than display size increase

$999 - 512GB SSD/8GB RAM
$1299 - 1TB SSD/16GB RAM

and of course better webcam whatever they can pull off...

I wonder with this MBA with m1 what is there for iPad Pro with Keyboard = $999 ... now it makes sense that iPad Air 4 is bumped up specs and display. looks 11" iPad Pro may not survive long enough...
 
Intel is doomed.

Also, 1080p really should be the BASELINE for a webcam. Especially in a WFH pandemic. Not sure why Apple is so resistant... maybe with the rumored 12/14" redesign. Face ID maybe too? Hmm.

Presumably something is up with the redesign and bezels, which may or may not be an opportunity for better cameras and faceid.
 
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Because it's a huge stepback, even a non-retina air could do it. And it's such a basic capability in 2020, that a lot of people won't even think that that's something they should check before buying. Sorry for not only praising the product and ruining your peachy world.
How? Huge for who? In all of 9 years I’m using Air I have no need to use external monitor let alone 2. I guess the majority would be like me. If you need to connect to 2 external monitors then this entry level machine is not for you.
There is reasonable complaint, and there is complaint for the sake of complaining, which is tiresome.
 
Intel is doomed.

Also, 1080p really should be the BASELINE for a webcam. Especially in a WFH pandemic. Not sure why Apple is so resistant... maybe with the rumored 12/14" redesign. Face ID maybe too? Hmm.
I doubt Intel is doomed. They still have a huge windows PC market to sell to. However, there is always the risk that as Macs attract the more well-heeled customers, the windows PC market is left selling relatively low-margin hardware, which in turn means less money for PC OEMs and Intel itself to funnel into further R&D.

Apple could probably twist the knife a little by pricing their Macs more aggressively (the M1 chips likely cost less to make since Apple doesn't have to pay Intel any fat margins), but it would appear that for the moment at least, Apple is content to simply pocket the difference and maintain the status quo.
 
I can probably live with the 16 GB memory limit but limiting support to a single display is a deal breaker, especially on the mini that has no integrated display. Fortunately, I can wait for a real Pro version of the mini, mini pro or a laptop and I will.
 
I can probably live with the 16 GB memory limit but limiting support to a single display is a deal breaker, especially on the mini that has no integrated display. Fortunately, I can wait for a real Pro version of the mini, mini pro or a laptop and I will.

I thought the M1 Mac Mini could use two external displays... if one uses HDMI and the other uses Thunderbolt?

Someone fact-check me... :p
 
How? Huge for who? In all of 9 years I’m using Air I have no need to use external monitor let alone 2. I guess the majority would be like me. If you need to connect to 2 external monitors then this entry level machine is not for you.
There is reasonable complaint, and there is complaint for the sake of complaining, which is tiresome.
From the comments it seems to a lot of people. In offices it's standard to issue two displays, and for a lot of jobs the Air is perfectly fine. They won't buy 2000€ pros for these. And you write about reasonable complaints in a thread full of bashing the webcam because they don't look good on zoom. Come on.

Those people will live with it or buy an external camera. Me/my company won't buy it at all. Apple always ****s up something, like they despise my money. Not implementing displayport daisy chaining, butterfly keyboard, enforcing touchbar on pro machines, now this. I am getting tired of their bull****.
 
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Apple always ****s up something, like they despise my money.
Apple has data on what their users use their machines. This is not their ****ing up. It’s you who have a use case that’s not in a majority.
Good news is next year there will be a pro machine released for Apple Silicon. If the feature is important to you, pay for it. 🙄
 
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Apple has data on what their users use their machines. This is not their ****ing up. It’s you who have a use case that’s not in a majority.
Good news is next year there will be a pro machine released for Apple Silicon. If the feature is important to you, pay for it. 🙄
Are you saying all their privacy concerns are lies and they are spying on me? All while that would be my first private mac notebook? And they needed 4 years with all that data to realize that the butterfly sucks? :D

Important, but not that important. I won't pay twice that much for the ability every other notebook on the market has with the added "privilege" of a heavier laptop and that abomination in the place of the function keys.

And certainly my employers won't either. With "running ios apps" already seems to be fairly limited, I'll just simply stay with my intel Mini. And curse them every time I have to use my company issued wintel notebook, because any macbook supporting(?) two displays will be way above of the hardware budget. The entry pro was the go-to machine for software developers in most companies.
 
Are you saying all their privacy concerns are lies and they are spying on me?
Huh? You never heard about “market research”, or even simply “feed back”? Mac users won’t give feed back to YOU, for example.
 
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I think it really goes to show how gimped Intel has been in their mobile space and how much it has held back laptop computing since they have a virtual monopoly on notebooks

Look at AMD's 4xxx series APU's... they're not as great as the M1 in single core performance, but blow it away in multi-threaded performance at the same TDP's (look up 15W 4600U and 25W 4800U comparisons against the MBP 13 and Mac Mini) - and that's on the 7NM process with Zen 2 architecture (the +19% IPC uplift on the Zen 3's APUs still on 7NM means the 5xxx series should be impressive)

Problem is, it looks like a lot of OEMs are locked into Intel when the AMD mobile CPU's are actually the best x86 ones you can buy today, but they're hard to find.

Talk about a bad year for Intel 😅
Intel is to my mind a victim of its own success going way back to core2duo. While it was a master stroke, I think it really ended up putting them into a rut, AMD’s anaemic competition at the time and until fairly reverently certainly didn’t help matters.
They’ve cornered the market for years as a status quo but I think it’s all about to get shaken like a snow globe in a sugar saturated toddler’s hands ;)
 
I doubt Intel is doomed. They still have a huge windows PC market to sell to. However, there is always the risk that as Macs attract the more well-heeled customers, the windows PC market is left selling relatively low-margin hardware, which in turn means less money for PC OEMs and Intel itself to funnel into further R&D.

Apple could probably twist the knife a little by pricing their Macs more aggressively (the M1 chips likely cost less to make since Apple doesn't have to pay Intel any fat margins), but it would appear that for the moment at least, Apple is content to simply pocket the difference and maintain the status quo.
I hear you on that, but how many (tens of?) billions do you think Apple has invested to acquire their chip design capabilities, and how much has been spent to bring the M1 (and all of its descendants) into reality?

They've accounted for those expenses in previous quarters, but I would guess they're ready to profit-take on the M1's ability to punch far above its weight.

Keep in mind as well, today $999 base-model MacBook Air will in a year's time be a $600-$650 laptop as a pre-owned or even refurb, and that will make its advantages far more affordable to others.
 
Highly doubt it's their first try. I guess they were testing macos with their chips for some generation now, and probably the a12 version convinced them they can pull this off.
Oh really? Damn, and here I thought they put together a processor a few weeks ago and threw it into a machine to see what will happen ;)
 
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