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I would be seriously tempted if the laptops really don’t get hot. I don’t need the extra power so much as I need a laptop that doesn’t get uncomfortably hot and loud when I’m doing even basic tasks. My 2019 MacBook Pro was a disappointment in both those respects.
 
Got my gold MBA today and.... oh my god. It's so pink. I'm so tired of Apple's silver vs darker silver color palette. I got the gold mainly just to register one small vote in favor of color (boy would I like either the green or blue in the iPad Airs). But this is so damned pink. It kills me to realize how long I'll have to wait for another computer if I return this.
 
Got my gold MBA today and.... oh my god. It's so pink. I'm so tired of Apple's silver vs darker silver color palette. I got the gold mainly just to register one small vote in favor of color (boy would I like either the green or blue in the iPad Airs). But this is so damned pink. It kills me to realize how long I'll have to wait for another computer if I return this.
Then don't return it until you get a replacement. I thought Apple started the extended return for Christmas.
 
If it doesn't fit your use case, don't buy it. Not sure why people always feel the need to threadcr*p. My iPad Pro can't drive 52 monitors, but I really don't give a ****.
Because it's a huge stepback, even a non-retina air could do it. And it's such a basic capability in 2020, that a lot of people won't even think that that's something they should check before buying. Sorry for not only praising the product and ruining your peachy world.
 
Some of these YouTube reviewers must be noobs because they don’t understand their video editing apps are using proxies. Dave Lee actually seems to think Premiere was playing Red Raw proxyless.

Without an accelerator such as the Afterburner or Red Rocket there is no such thing as smooth proxyless Red Raw editing even on ridiculously powerful workstations with RTX cards.
He is not playing back proxies, just RedRaw .R3D 5K at half resolution. Its a long time since you needed to use proxies with RED. The NLE scales down to 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 res in playback. I can even playback 6K .R3D on my 2013 MBP in FCX
 
You just said: "bank computers." That is a business-productivity use.

The M1 Mac Minis can drive two monitors.

Apple still sells Intel Mac Minis that can drive more.

These are the first releases. This is only the beginning of the transition. These are consumer-targeted.
Macbook Airs and Pros running dual monitors was a feature they used to have. It's a step back. I'm sure there must be a technical reason but it is a shame. I have a consumer PC laptop work forces me to use that supports dual monitors. :(
 
He is not playing back proxies, just RedRaw .R3D 5K at half resolution. Its a long time since you needed to use proxies with RED. The NLE scales down to 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 res in playback. I can even playback 6K .R3D on my 2013 MBP in FCX
You are using proxies and you don’t even know it 😂😝😂😝🤣😝😝😝😝😂😝😝😂😂

Myself included, Mac Pro users who spend thousands, PC builders who spend thousands, all latest most powerful hardware in the world CANNOT playback and Edit Red Raw footage smoothly without proxies.

What you are seeing on your measly 2013 laptop is the video being cached/background rendered into a proxy. You even admit to having lowered the resolution to reduce the proxy bit rate.

If you could play proxyless Red on your laptop Apple would never have invented the Afterburner card. Red Rocket wouldn’t be for sale either.

Play those videos outside an NLE in a player such as Red Player to see if a system can handle proxyless playback.

Get educated first before you reply to professionals. Thankfully you didn’t say that to someone in a hard working studio otherwise all the editors would have eyeballed you.
 
Macbook Airs and Pros running dual monitors was a feature they used to have. It's a step back. I'm sure there must be a technical reason but it is a shame. I have a consumer PC laptop work forces me to use that supports dual monitors. :(
Same here. I got a new PC to do some development work with friends. I was hoping to get the air or pro to run as my main computer and just Remote Desktop into the PC. Without dual monitor, seems like I’ll have to wait for the next release.
 
How well does the M1 mini handle the $6k Apple Pro display? Are they a good combo?

”Welch rebuked the mini’s internal speaker...” Is this a joke? Use Bluetooth or wires to an outstanding system or speaker dude; be the mini
 
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Same here. I got a new PC to do some development work with friends. I was hoping to get the air or pro to run as my main computer and just Remote Desktop into the PC. Without dual monitor, seems like I’ll have to wait for the next release.
That's what the mini is for.
 
And a GD potato of a webcam. Love Dieter and Nilay for just downright dogging Apple on this nonsense and the TouchBar. One is just inexcusable, and the other is, like Nilay says, a mistake that didn't work out and Apple needs to own up to that and ditch it like butterfly keyboards.
 
thanks apple to switch to ARM and show others a possible way to follow

but...

stonished about those who will buy an ARM laptop for 1600 USD with limited capacities, them only blind themselves with tricky benchmarks

no doubt is overpriced

but hey... I wouldn't expend 1000USD for a phone either

If they offer kinda professional camera with phone capabilities... at least they could care about releasing a case that protect those lenses, and/or made those swiftable << that goes for all brands

maybe the day I become richer, but even then... those hardware do not give that much difference in comparasion with other less expenssive alternatives

and if you really want to expend 1600USD or even more in a nice hardware, then built it yourself, and get a real powerful machine

the only good thing of apple computers nowadays is their Operating System (and not that good either, isn't much better than Windows 10, and... I had been for years using MacOS as main Operating System)
 
And a GD potato of a webcam. Love Dieter and Nilay for just downright dogging Apple on this nonsense and the TouchBar. One is just inexcusable, and the other is, like Nilay says, a mistake that didn't work out and Apple needs to own up to that and ditch it like butterfly keyboards.
look how long, and many lawsuits, it took for them to give up the butterfly keyboard. expect it to take a while for a new camera.
 
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You are using proxies and you don’t even know it 😂😝😂😝🤣😝😝😝😝😂😝😝😂😂

Myself included, Mac Pro users who spend thousands, PC builders who spend thousands, all latest most powerful hardware in the world CANNOT playback and Edit Red Raw footage smoothly without proxies.

What you are seeing on your measly 2013 laptop is the video being cached/background rendered into a proxy. You even admit to having lowered the resolution to reduce the proxy bit rate.

If you could play proxyless Red on your laptop Apple would never have invented the Afterburner card. Red Rocket wouldn’t be for sale either.

Play those videos outside an NLE in a player such as Red Player to see if a system can handle proxyless playback.

Get educated first before you reply to professionals. Thankfully you didn’t say that to someone in a hard working studio otherwise all the editors would have eyeballed you.

First off; no need to be so rude, its just embarrassing, and especially since you are completely wrong.

You can perfectly fine lower the resolution in Redcine X to what ever you want/machine can handle. I used to playback my 6K Dragon footage in Redcine X on my 2008 Mac Pro without a RedRocket card. Lowering the resolution on an 8K file means its not playing at 8, but 4K or 2K. The important thing is that you don't need to create proxies. That is the beauty og the RED codec. I got my first Red camera (Epic-M 5K) almost 10 years ago and have owned ever since at least 1 version of a Red camera since (Epic-W 8K now)
I just played back some 6K footage (didn't have any 8K on my 2013 MBP 15) in RedcineX. I could playback 1/8 res perfectly, 1/4 will stutter after a few minutes.
As you said your self, there are no proxies playback in RedcineX. I hope nobody is paying for advice from you when it comes to high end workflow and Red cameras.
(Not saying proxies can't be better then .R3D files, but its been years since creating proxies was necessary.
So please don't tell me to educate myself. I
I'm really tempted to get a Mini for my home office, but might wait until we get a version with more RAM
 
Macbook Airs and Pros running dual monitors was a feature they used to have. It's a step back. I'm sure there must be a technical reason but it is a shame. I have a consumer PC laptop work forces me to use that supports dual monitors. :(
The technical reason is the same as why there are only two TB3 ports (instead of 4 or even 2 TB4 ports) The IO on that SoC is based around the needs of an iPhone/iPad and not an actual computer. It can't handle more input/output than what you see here without a major redesign that Apple hasn't gotten around to yet, probably due to time constraints. I would expect this will be addressed with the M2, so if you need multi-monitor support and 4 ports like me, you'll have to wait until next year at the earliest when those drop.
 
look how long, and many lawsuits, it took for them to give up the butterfly keyboard. expect it to take a while for a new camera.
It's sad but you're probably right. I don't see anyone suing them over a webcam, and Apple is ridiculously slow to modernize anything they don't deem as useful. It most likely won't be addressed until the next form factor shift, and who knows when that will be. It's fine, I pack a Logitech StreamCam because it's smaller than most and features a native USB-C plug unlike most webcams, but I would appreciate having one less thing to pack and not forget while packing up my hotel room.
 
Hardly supervising . Apple Silicone on Macs is a Leapfrog!
Btw... is there any possibility of spinning this into a negative news? I ask, because I have noticed lot of talent around here.

Keep reading the comments. Lots and lots of talent here. (For some, it's obviously always a cloudy day.)
 
The technical reason is the same as why there are only two TB3 ports (instead of 4 or even 2 TB4 ports) The IO on that SoC is based around the needs of an iPhone/iPad and not an actual computer. It can't handle more input/output than what you see here without a major redesign that Apple hasn't gotten around to yet, probably due to time constraints. I would expect this will be addressed with the M2, so if you need multi-monitor support and 4 ports like me, you'll have to wait until next year at the earliest when those drop.
Another year of wait :(

I'm very close to just grab a low end refurbished Macbook Air, since all I need is to remote desktop into my PC anyways...
 
If you check the tech specs it's sadly only 1 over TB, and an extra over the HDMI port on the Mini... MacBooks only support 1. Quite a drawback, these are not for Pros and very early releases... I am quite surprised they were happy releasing these with support for only 1 TB display
This is something that I don't quite understand, for sure there's a technical reason or tests done to be deemed not supported. Could it be a license issue with Intel's and TB tech?
Would love a rundown explaining this limitation.

I still hope for a magical software/firmware update that would suddenly unblock this limitation... one of the coolest things for me with thunderbolt is daisy chaining displays. I use two TB displays like that on a single iMac TB3 port, it's freaking awesome... plus each screen has its plethora of secondary USB ports where I connect secondary stuff like phones, peripherals, etc (and a bunch of redundant useless things when used like this like not quite good cameras, ethernet ports, etc)
 
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Checking out MBA or MBP in 16Gb ram, 1 TB SSD. Only $250 price difference. Decisions decisions 🤔
 
Pretty impressive stuff isn’t it

I’m looking forward to seeing what the pull off with the bigger MBP especially in terms of thermals; I’ve also heard a lot of rumours concerning the screen getting bumped up to 16.5”-17” but obviously grain of salt there unless anyone has come across something relatively concrete.
Great showing from Apple which will hopefully give AMD and Intel some incentive to push the boat out even further
 
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