That would be massively anticompetitive to use the profits from the hardware business to subsidise the app store.
The app store needs to be self-succient. You wouldn't expect any other app store to operate at a loss.
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Apple Slaps Warnings on Apps Using External Purchases in the EU [Updated]
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The app store needs to be self-succient. You wouldn't expect any other app store to operate at a loss.
If an app is trusted enough to be in the App Store in the first place, this kind of warning just reeks of petty. If you think your users are legitimately in danger, remove the app from the App Store entirely!
I’ve had my credit card violated with thousands of dollars being racked up from one vendor on the internet. I understand the trepidation.
Bingo!
And as others have pointed out, there are plenty of apps that have already been using external payment solutions.
Are they suddenly no longer trustworthy just because the Don (Tim) isn’t getting his cut?
I’ve had my credit card violated. Never had an Apple Pay transaction violated. To me there is a difference between small indie develops who may have some dubious payment collection method vs Amazon, Apple, Netflix etc
I love that Apple continues to rile the Fandroids. Long may it continue!
That would be massively anti competitive? Pot kettle black. But also a ridiculous observation with no grounding in this conversation - it’s not anti competitive to use your own income streams to fund your own products and services, that’s just business. You ever heard of a supermarket? Those places sell items at a loss on purpose to draw you in to buy the other products that will make them a profit, it’s called a loss leader. Games consoles until this latest generation, the hardware was sold at a loss and the money made back and then some in software sales, it’s an every day practice
Besides the App Store with or without this 30% share of every single in app purchase would still be profitable.
You know what is anti competitive? Having a monopoly and wanting to keep a stranglehold on every penny, not allowing alternative marketplaces or forms of payment… not allowing, there’s a word for it… it escapes me… not allowing… ah that’s it, competition!
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Not fandroids, just consumers who believe in pro consumer legislation and business practices. Absolutely no Androids in this house, absolutely no Windows PCs, been Apple for the best part of 25 years. Love the products, hate the scummy business practices.
The fact you brought “fanboyism” into this in the first place shows the reason you are defending Apple isn’t from an objective point of view, it’s because you yourself are steeped in this weird culture war that is swearing allegiance to a multi billion dollar conglomerate who owes you nothing and cares not one bit about you. The fact these policies being used by your favourite corporation are negatively affecting you and you’re defending them, they’ve got you where they want you.
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If you find yourself defending a mega mega mega corporation, it may be time to reevaluate.
Do you understand that this warning is for Apple customers and Apple customers only? Who exactly is Apple riling?
Android users have long had access to multiple reputable payments systems (Google Pay, Samsung Pay, PayPal etc.)
Loss leaders are also anticompetitive. Using advertising revenue to fund other products and services is anti-competitive.
None of it should be legal.
Apple doesn’t have a monopoly on the smartphone market.
I have no disagreement with this. The perception is that if Apple gains value then it is a bad thing. Both Apple and the developer has greatly benefited from the iOS store. Currently, the developers/manufacturers are making, at a minimum, 70% of the dollar spent. Name any other retail industry where the manufacturer makes 70% of retail cost.
That’s not an issue in the US.
The anti steering provision is under appeal. And Apple rightfully so is positioning it as they should still get a cut.
I'm sure it had good intentions. Either they had no clue what they're doing and shouldn't be in the position to be making these laws, or they knew what they were doing and did it anyways. Regardless, it's a forced popup and there's no other way around it.
Just stinks of greedy developers trying to take choice away from us consumers to me.
I don’t want developers to force me to use a certain App Store to get their app. I want their app to be in the Apple App Store where I want to shop.
I don’t want developers to force me to use a payment method I don’t want to use. I want them to accept Apple payments.
I am the consumer, this all should be my choice.
Apple's comment doesn't say billing from elsewhere is insecure. It just says the app isn't using App Store's secure apis.
Nope.
yes and going through one company where only you and that company has the private CC info is literally more secure than having you and two companies having the CC info. that's the point.
👉 No one forces you to use those developers’ apps.
Don’t buy/download apps from a store you don’t like.
And developers are free to discontinue or withdraw their apps from the App Store at any time.
What? No. The literal warning Apple made doesn't suggest external payment processors are not private/secure.
Because it's been like that since the beginning of the App Store. People are used to buying digital goods/services through Apple in the app. Now that is changing, customers need to be clearly aware that before they buy an app, they will have to go through third party prcessors.
Not sure why this is hard to understand. The general consumer needs to be cautious from here on out.
But I want that app. I’m the consumer, I should get what I want, not what the person trying to sell me the app wants.
Nope. It's making it clear Apple is no longer handling payments through IAP for certain apps and consumers deserve to CLEARLY know this.
…and having your account with said company broken/withdrawn will deny access to all the apps (and videos) you ever bought from them.
A giant single point of failure.