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I don't really think this warning is a "big deal". I've attached a screenshot of the page it leads to just in case Apple reverses course, but nothing in here is bad. In my opinion it's just stating facts to the consumer, giving them more choice in what they want to do for their apps.
Whilst it certainly looks that way, there will likely be a correlation between loss of business for these apps and Apple's nanny state/protectionist tactics.

A few years back a big supermarket chain here in the UK (Tesco) got taken to court for deliberately buying up parcels of land near its own stores to prevent competitors setting up shop there, independent or otherwise. These companies do it all the time.
 
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It’s fine to inform users of it on the bottom of the apps page, but it is petty to put it at the top of the page that Apple is not getting a cut. Almost seems like Apple wants to push the boundaries to risk getting in trouble again with the EU. This is not what I would expect from the old Apple.
 
Apple should allow just allow alternate marketplaces everywhere and then kick any app that doesn't use their payment system out of their App Store. Let the App Store be for those of us who prefer the convenience of having a single place to make and manage purchases.
 
Nonsense like how EU is forcing everyone to popup cookie popups? Yet here we are... 🤣

FYI: the logic is users have always been used to buying through Apple for digital goods through apps. Now that has changed, it's imperative that Apple displays this warning. So no, not "with that logic".
Actually the EU mandated that websites couldn't collect personal data without permission from users. Websites choose to put up the cookie popup. They're annoying, its true but aim your ire in the right place :)
 
I understand why they've done it, and also why they've done it, if you see what I mean. But it's still a d*ck move on Apple's part. Get over it guys. If you want to operate in the EU, you have to comply with that country's law. Stop whining and focus on building great hardware and software and make it better and easer for your devs to do the same within your AppStore.
 
Apple should allow just allow alternate marketplaces everywhere and then kick any app that doesn't use their payment system out of their App Store. Let the App Store be for those of us who prefer the convenience of having a single place to make and manage purchases.
I'd prefer it if Apple didn't 'nanny state' the choice for us and let us be adults and make up our own minds. They only need amend their EULA to state that they take no responsibility for external purchase activity.
 
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Actually the EU mandated that websites couldn't collect personal data without permission from users. Websites choose to put up the cookie popup. They're annoying, its true but aim your ire in the right place :)

You're wording it in a weird way. EU mandated "Receive users’ consent before you use any cookies except strictly necessary cookies.".

In what way can you receive explicit consent without any UI?
 
I wasn't defeated. I responded point by point for reasons why.

I mean with that attitude, I don't think we're going to get anywhere so, have a great evening.
It basically your attitude that's keeping your discussions from going anywhere. You just "move on" when someone makes a valid (but opposite to your) point.
I suggested Apple Pay as an alternative method which meets everyone's secure standards and is not the App Store, yet you just won't agree, you just "move on" because you don't want to say someone else might be right.
 
No logic found in this statement. They want apps that don't use IAP to look worse and dangerous (again, there's literally a danger sign in there).
The warning text is literally true. App doesn't use App Store's private and secure payment system, something that all customers are used to by now so it's fair they show a warning.

"It must look super pleasant and friendly that an app is not using a secure payment system that all users are used to!" is a bad take lol, talk about no logic found. I'm moving on.
 
They need to remove all the warning labels and that stupid work it’s way out. :p
 
what an assh*le move. How can you support this? It's fear-mongering. Of course the EU won't be happy about this.
I am 100% in favor of Apple giving the EU the middle finger at every opportunity.

EU has made the web worse (incessant GDPR and cookies pop-ups), and now they want to mess with the phone operating system we use, know, and love. They are masters of the asshºle move, so I get a satisfying chuckle out of Apple's return moves.
 
Good. Consumers deserve to know whether or not the app they're downloading is going to be insecure and/or frustrating to use. Epic deserves this.

Anyone who is against this is clearly not being objective. This is pro-consumer.


EDIT: Love how people downvoting are in favor of less knowledge about what apps they purchase.
No it's not, it's FUD intended to scare people away from using the payment system that Apple takes a cut from for every transaction. It's the opposite of pro-consumer, and I would not be in the least bit surprised if this is in violation of EU law.

If an app really is using an insexure/unsafe payment system then why is Apple letting the app on its store in the first place?

Apple, do better. You should not be resorting to underhanded scare tactics.
 
Now it's getting ridiculous. Why should it be more "dangerous" on buying a subscription at the website of the manufacturer? That's typical US dumb minded stuff.

Why should Apple if they have no control over it, have the issue associated it with their brand name ?

If problems occurs outside of Apple's control, wouldn't people go to Apple asking for renumeration and / or Apple to fix the problem ?
 
You're wording it in a weird way. EU mandated "Receive users’ consent before you use any cookies except strictly necessary cookies.".

In what way can you receive explicit consent without any UI?
The intention of the EU mandate was that websites would not collect personal data at all but they did not want to upend the entire web ad market by banning it outright.

Websites responded with the scummy pop-up.
 
Apple only cares about money, as they should. But their whole "aura" is that they are better than everyone else, care about the environment and rainbows and child labour and…..

It’s that they tend to pretend a tad much that they are saints, when they know they are not….
They only do or promote those things to the extent they think it will generate more revenue. Marketing is great for putting an altruistic spin on things and generating customer sentiment, but you don't end up as profitable as Apple by building your business on it.
 
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Good. Consumers deserve to know whether or not the app they're downloading is going to be insecure and/or frustrating to use. Epic deserves this.

Anyone who is against this is clearly not being objective. This is pro-consumer.


EDIT: Love how people downvoting are in favor of less knowledge about what apps they purchase.
Apples comment is not open and honest and your is no better.
Downloading from somewhere other than the app store does NOT mean it's insecure just as downloading from the App Store doesn't guarantee security.
 
Freeload? Isn't it Apple's own rules that force developers to put their apps in Apple's App Store? You clearly aren't a supporter of a competitive marketplace. You get a choice where you buy your groceries -- would you shop at a store whose prices are 30% higher because their checkout system is "more secure" than others, especially when the others are already secure?

People think checking out through another system (which EVERYONE does all the time online) is somehow going to have rampant fraud so they've created a boogeyman to scare everyone into thinking if you pay, say, with PayPal in an app instead of through Apple's payment system that somehow your information will be stolen. It's ridiculous.
It is freeloading. Lots of apps (Netflix, SuccessWizard metal) have not sold anything through the IOS store for years. Apple allowed it and it worked. The problem is now apps want to advertise and utilize the Apple Store and then redirect them to a different site. They want to use the storefront that Apple created and not allow Apple to reap any of the profits in that store. NO OTHER RETAILER allows this. For example, if I am looking to buy something at Best Buy, there isn't some sticker that says that I can buy it at Amazon for less. If these developers want to make the money, then create your own store and create a marketing plan to find your own customers rather than stealing the ones that are using the App Store.
 
Apples comment is not open and honest and your is no better.
Downloading from somewhere other than the app store does NOT mean it's insecure just as downloading from the App Store doesn't guarantee security.
True. But if there is an issue with the purchase, the customer needs to realize that they will have to go to someone other than Apple for remediation.
 
Freeload? Isn't it Apple's own rules that force developers to put their apps in Apple's App Store? You clearly aren't a supporter of a competitive marketplace.
The competitive marketplace already existed. You never had to use the App Store payment system. You just were not allowed to advertise it in their store. Netflix does not allow you to subscribe from the App. You cannot buy a Kindle book from the App. There are lots of cases where you have to go somewhere else to make a purchase. And that has always been allowed.
 
Freeload? Isn't it Apple's own rules that force developers to put their apps in Apple's App Store? You clearly aren't a supporter of a competitive marketplace. You get a choice where you buy your groceries -- would you shop at a store whose prices are 30% higher because their checkout system is "more secure" than others, especially when the others are already secure?
Agreed. But if you are shopping at that more expensive store, there is not some sign, in that store, that tells you to go somewhere else to save $$.
 
Interesting. Not sure whether Apple will face further backlash due to this. It could have been worded better.
 
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