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I would have to not fully agree. The screen on the flagship galaxy s20 ultra is superior to the 12 Pro Max. In resolution, size (if that matters), DPI, minus an ugly notch, 120hz display.

Camera again is arguably better on the Samsung ultra with a ton more MP. Yes MP isn’t the only thing but the s20 ultras is too jam packed with features.

The A14 is impressive and yeah is faster than the Exynos.

Other bonuses on the Samsung is the micro SD for 1TB, the courtesy of including a power charger and decent headphones, more than double the RAM on the top option.

The 12 has great hardware but as in my original post I would opt for the galaxy s20 if software being equal. The Google produced Android software keeps me away. So I agree with users choosing the platform rather than the device itself.
Yep. People are largely already captured in one ecosystem or the other, and I think very few cross-shop. If you compare this situation to something like American pony cars - sure, there are bragging rights based on horsepower or other performance specs - but no loyal Ford guy is considering a Camaro. For smartphones, the Ford vs. GM analogy works - and with both cars and phones, there are always new customers coming in that don't have a family history with a brand or whatever. But relatively speaking, there just aren't that many people coming in fresh (as opposed to in-brand upgrades) - and those that do come in fresh aren't using all of these silly spec numbers to bench-race the available products. As I have suggested before, 120Hz screens mean diddly to upper-middle-class housewives who have disposable income and have "sortof heard about 5G but have no idea what it means."

Apple products don't have to be the best. They only have to be something you aspire to, have to have a great customer experience, and functionally they really just have to be "good enough." There will be people that have a bunch of reliability issues - and there will be people who are turned off because of the "lagging in features relative to Brand X." All Apple has to do is try and take care of the former; they aren't playing to the latter.
 
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They deserve it. The long delays in the shipping of multiple Apple products are inadmissible. And this is not due to the pandemic, this happens every single year to a greater or lesser extent. Not professional at all and unexpected coming from one of the biggest and richest companies in the world. Shame on Apple!
Deserve what? Another record quarter? Yes, I suppose every quarter will be record breaking.

I’m sure Apple appreciates your concern, but they’re fine with others fighting over the $100 phone market. You really don’t need to worry about it.
 
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Your mum doesn't have to , the defaults will work just fine.
True, but you and I both know Apple will never give people 8 options in Settings when 2 will suffice. It’s always been about elegance and minimalism over plethora of options. To think otherwise is ignoring the everything we’ve seen over 12+ years of iOS design.
 
Apple products don't have to be the best. They only have to be something you aspire to, have to have a great customer experience, and functionally they really just have to be "good enough." There will be people that have a bunch of reliability issues - and there will be people who are turned off because of the "lagging in features relative to Brand X." All Apple has to do is try and take care of the former; they aren't playing to the latter.

I will add on that Apple products only need to offer the best experience, which Apple does via its integrated ecosystem. So it’s not enough for the competition to just ship a great smartphone that beats the iPhone in one are or another. They also need a competing smart watch, headphones, tablet, services etc.

At this point, the lead that Apple has is simply insurmountable.
 
Iphone will remain an overpriced luxury gadget to some, but in the long run China and South Korea will be the only ones left in the game. Apple will go the way of pounds and gallons, becoming a purely national thing.

That’s absurd. But you’re correct in thinking that anything that goes up will come down. Anything.
 
Yep. I just get a bit bitter that I feel Apple intentionally withholds features that other flagship phones have just to have additional selling points for next year. There’s no reason why they could not have included USB C and 120mz this year. It’s been like this for years though. Always behind competitors on latest innovations Y2Y.

Yup, it’s the slightly slower approach already known from the iPod product. Not the first with a technology but likely the one with a pleasant implementation.
 
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Camera again is arguably better on the Samsung ultra with a ton more MP. Yes MP isn’t the only thing but the s20 ultras is too jam packed with features.
I know you like Apple gear, but arguably better is subjective and not objective. Yes objectively there are more pixels, but the end result of a photo is subjective. And while I eliminated the comment about the notch, Samsung doesn't have a full fledged face id equivalent, so they don't have to worry about where to put those components and as such wound up with an ugly hole.
Yep. I just get a bit bitter that I feel Apple intentionally withholds features that other flagship phones have just to have additional selling points for next year. There’s no reason why they could not have included USB C and 120mz this year. It’s been like this for years though. Always behind competitors on latest innovations Y2Y.
I agree with you that Apple withholds features. I disagree as to the motivation though. Apple withholds features that aren't ready for prime time, by its' standards. As far as usb-c, my opinion is I don't see a need and glad apple didn't. 12-mhz isn't an innovation, it's an incremental improvement.
 
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iPhone Mini might be the game changer...
I honestly think so.

No other manufacturers make phones in this size any longer and haven't for about 2-4yrs now. Sony was the last and their Android and not many 3rd party availability for their 'Compact' line of Android phones left globally. Apple could potentially bring in more new to iPhone/iOS users with the 12 mini.
 
Samsung has 22% market share, out of which 20% is probably low-end devices with 3-4 years old hardware inside.
I would thinly that Samsung’s low end devices are the majority of their sales — look at their profit margins. Those low profits are due to selling cheap phones and giving them away for free. I wonder how many of those Samsung numbers are 2-for-1 purchases?!
 
Am I the only one who read this and thought:

What the heck is "vivo"?

I actually just picked up a Vivo Y20s for $290 AUD to replace my iPhone 6 Plus. They're actually quite big in Asia and Australia.
 
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