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Apple Snaps Up Several '.Guru' Domain Names on Launch Day

numlock said:
not exactly the scenario but the fact remains the apple staff in applecare and supervisors there could not offer a better solution than this. ios4 to ios7 works however.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't iOS4 when it went from SMS to iMessage? That might explain the lack of support for importing from a 4-version-old data storage format.

Sure, it'd be nice if it would still import from the older stuff, but at some point maintaining the older code just becomes a maintenance hassle for very little return.
 
jkichline said:
Why do they keep coming out with these stupid extensions? Seriously there needs to be a ".app" extension. Not "Guru". What's next? .rabbi? .pastor? .buddha? It just doesn't make any sense.
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The domains were created at something like half a million US$ each, with a similar amount to renew each year. The idea is that brands can just advertise urls like "http://google" instead of "http://google.com". Obviously, another use is to buy generic terms and sell subdomains, like as is being done with .guru.
 
This is become a very difficult question for businesses, especially small ones that do not have a huge budget for web presence.

If you own a company bike shop called Wheelz, do you bother registering wheelz.sux, to prevent your competitor or hater from getting it? How about wheelz.sex or wheelz.xxx? What if having a .xxx redirecting to your .com causes a kid-filter to block your entire company? Is it worth the risk?
 
Tankmaze said:
Don't know why but the only tld I would consider is only .com and .net

Good luck for the domain squatters getting good name. Like ios.guru maybe?
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I totally agree. I had a .BIZ for a while and always have to spell "biz" for people. I had .CO also, and people just assumed I misspelled .com and would add the "M" on the end which sent e-mail to nowhere or someone else.
 
erzhik said:
There is a reason why it looks like that. Apple Stores and MSFT stores were designed by the same person.
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The stores do look similar, but having the same architect/interior designer wouldn't explain the similar staff naming scheme and outfit.

It just seems like Microsoft thought "Apple Stores are successful and highly profitable, let's do the same", and took the "the same" part a bit too literally.
 
jkichline said:
Agreed. I just don't think Apple even supports anything older than iOS 4.3 at this point, most likely 5.1 now. But then again, these older versions of iOS did not automatically upgrade so it would require connecting to iTunes to run to the update. But that means this person was looking for trouble since that's the ONLY way to sync and backup the device in those versions.

They could also look into some software like DiskAid that can extract text messages from the operating system without using iTunes but that may not even support an iOS that old.
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what is classified as support these days? is it having knowledge that the sms.db changed somewhere along the line? i wasnt asking them to fix anything. i knew that this could be done it was just a matter of which version of iphone and ios to use as a go between.

i think nokia pc suite is in many ways much better than what apple offers us and in addition to that we should have much greater control over what is backup-ed.

tbrinkma said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't iOS4 when it went from SMS to iMessage? That might explain the lack of support for importing from a 4-version-old data storage format.

Sure, it'd be nice if it would still import from the older stuff, but at some point maintaining the older code just becomes a maintenance hassle for very little return.
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ios4 is just regular texts and the app is called messages.

to your second point i will say that when you migrate from your 8 year old mac to a spanking new one itunes and iphoto will tell you that they will upgrade your library and few min later all your stuff is there. why cant they do it like that with the texts?

but the lack of knowledge from the staff was laughably bad
 
numlock said:
i dont know who the iphone.guru is but certainly not the idiot or her supervisor in applecare who i spoke to recently.

for some reasons texts dont transfer from a ios3 backup to ios7 and their advice was to either take screenshots of them or write them down.
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If you have a mac, you can download an app called phoneview. It is $29 but it lets you access all txt conversations, and other content in your phone and save it to other formats like PDF.

It also has a phone backup function I believe.
 
wikiverse said:
If you have a mac, you can download an app called phoneview. It is $29 but it lets you access all txt conversations, and other content in your phone and save it to other formats like PDF.

It also has a phone backup function I believe.
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thanks for the tip. i found one similar to that. sad thing about those of course is that whatever you can get off the phone you cant get one another one.

but i solved the whole issue without help from iphone.guru
 
JAQ said:
Because I sometimes consult with clients about their online presence, and having to deal with hundreds of TLDs (instead of a handful) which might duplicate their names and make it more difficult for their clients just makes the job more difficult. The only people who benefit from this are domain squatters, registrars, and lawyers, none of whom do anything particularly useful for society. Thanks for pretending to care.
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I was pretending to care? :confused:

Sounds like they needed to revise the system a long time ago (not that I know of any better solutions).

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oneMadRssn said:
This is become a very difficult question for businesses, especially small ones that do not have a huge budget for web presence.

If you own a company bike shop called Wheelz, do you bother registering wheelz.sux, to prevent your competitor or hater from getting it? How about wheelz.sex or wheelz.xxx? What if having a .xxx redirecting to your .com causes a kid-filter to block your entire company? Is it worth the risk?
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I forgot .xxx was a thing. I only knew of one website that used it and it isn't even around anymore.

That being said, any website I visited that happened to be .biz always gave me this uncanny feeling of "this is going to be shady...better wear my e-condom (anti-virus) ahead of time".
 
jkichline said:
Why do they keep coming out with these stupid extensions? Seriously there needs to be a ".app" extension. Not "Guru". What's next? .rabbi? .pastor? .buddha? It just doesn't make any sense.
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You wanted to use a hyperbole, but you failed miserably unfortunately...

I've seen much worse.
Can't remember them of the top of my head, but boy...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
"Guru" is one of the candidate names for the upcoming rebranding of the Family Room services at the Apple Stores (the device setup table, group training, open training, mobile genius meetups for small devices). One to One appointments are slated to disappear this year (a relic of a Ron Johnson era) and the Creatives in the stores will do mostly workshops, open training (as their schedules are already slanted to do), and post-genius appointment handoffs for non-troubleshooting questions which hamper bar turnaround. Family Room Specialists will also be folded into this role.

These support amenities will be bundled with the new AppleCare subscription initiative. "Why call AppleCare for app questions when you can just drop in anytime to an open table?"

It's taken awhile for this to line up, but it's good to see a way out of One-to-One branding that can be seen as a positive for both the stores and the customers, and in wording that semantically makes sense: Geniuses innovate solutions to unique problems, Gurus are already well knowledgeable in their fields (Creative).
 
numlock said:
i dont know who the iphone.guru is but certainly not the idiot or her supervisor in applecare who i spoke to recently.

for some reasons texts dont transfer from a ios3 backup to ios7 and their advice was to either take screenshots of them or write them down.
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They probably didn't include support for that because there are no iOS 3 devices that are upgradeable to iOS 7. For instance, iOS 3 shipped with the 3GS. The minimum requirement for iOS 7 is iPhone 4, which shipped with iOS 4. The 3GS can be upgraded through iOS 6. You're in quite the tiniest of minorities here. I don't agree that Apple should take the time to make sure every iOS version backup is compatible. However, if you did sync your iOS 3 device recently and that's how you made your backup, it should have at least warned you with a popup box that you should upgrade to iOS 6 to transfer the backup properly.

It's quite amazing what our phones can do today. I remember back in the day you couldn't even upgrade Windows without reinstalling everything from scratch and manually pulling your files back in. Not sure about Mac OS as I wasn't a user that far back.
 
numlock said:
i dont know who the iphone.guru is but certainly not the idiot or her supervisor in applecare who i spoke to recently.

for some reasons texts dont transfer from a ios3 backup to ios7 and their advice was to either take screenshots of them or write them down.
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Look at a program like phoneview, where you can extract those sms. Something like iBackup Viewer or JuicePhone will also do the trick, those are both free and extracts the data from a backup. G'Luck. (oh, all these programs are on OSX)
 
macduke said:
They probably didn't include support for that because there are no iOS 3 devices that are upgradeable to iOS 7. For instance, iOS 3 shipped with the 3GS. The minimum requirement for iOS 7 is iPhone 4, which shipped with iOS 4. The 3GS can be upgraded through iOS 6. You're in quite the tiniest of minorities here. I don't agree that Apple should take the time to make sure every iOS version backup is compatible. However, if you did sync your iOS 3 device recently and that's how you made your backup, it should have at least warned you with a popup box that you should upgrade to iOS 6 to transfer the backup properly.

It's quite amazing what our phones can do today. I remember back in the day you couldn't even upgrade Windows without reinstalling everything from scratch and manually pulling your files back in. Not sure about Mac OS as I wasn't a user that far back.
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iLeoMarc said:
Look at a program like phoneview, where you can extract those sms. Something like iBackup Viewer or JuicePhone will also do the trick, those are both free and extracts the data from a backup. G'Luck. (oh, all these programs are on OSX)
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guys i really appreciate your comments but this issue is solved.

my initial post in this thread was to highlight the immense lack of knowledge of the staff in applecare and the supervisors there. i find it laughably bad and everyone here being helpful and offering advice on what software to use just highlights it even further.


macduke as far as what is compatible its apple that changed something regarding the sms.db so they knew it would incompatible for some (they could easily allow you to update it just like they do with itunes and iphoto). i think its minimal service for paying customers.

edited post because its off topic and better suited in other threads
 
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Tankmaze said:
Don't know why but the only tld I would consider is only .com and .net

Good luck for the domain squatters getting good name. Like ios.guru maybe?
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Ok I know this is macrumors but ios.guru is not garantied to be an aoole domain as ios is olso the name of Ciscos firmware/os for their routers/switches (not the consumer stuff) so Cisco might as well register that domain, only time wil tell
 
harley3k said:
I totally agree. I had a .BIZ for a while and always have to spell "biz" for people. I had .CO also, and people just assumed I misspelled .com and would add the "M" on the end which sent e-mail to nowhere or someone else.
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thats some great experience there. I always avoid getting domain name other than .com and .net probably because its the established TLD and people already know how to spell it, which is a big factor.

bn-7bc said:
Ok I know this is macrumors but ios.guru is not garantied to be an aoole domain as ios is olso the name of Ciscos firmware/os for their routers/switches (not the consumer stuff) so Cisco might as well register that domain, only time wil tell
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Some of those domain squatters do it for a living, so yeah they could find a way to get the domain they want. especially with these new release TLD's.
 
Parasprite said:
If it was perfectly fine, why does it charge twice as slow? I'd imagine some (generic) cables are better than others.

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In which case, maybe some gurus are better than others :p

I agree with the OP though. Many geniuses in Apple Store is not even computer literate. They're just doing their job without actually any interest about computers in general.
 
iSayuSay said:
In which case, maybe some gurus are better than others :p

I agree with the OP though. Many geniuses in Apple Store is not even computer literate. They're just doing their job without actually any interest about computers in general.
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They managed to seriously impress my dad a couple years back, which was hilarious because he'd only ever dealt with Geek Squad people before.

Edit:Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure he just thought she was cute.
 
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