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Try living in the UK

If you live in the UK the Apple TV is very poor value for money. OK it can stream stuff from your IOS devices but has none of the services the Chromecast has, e.g. BBC iplayer, BT Sport, Sky Movies, to name a few.
 
if apple would start to allow custom apps to be installed to the AppleTV, it would be the next best thing since sliced bread.

Agreed. Huge missed opportunity. An App Store would have made the Apple TV as must have as the ipod, iPhone or iPad when they were first released. Hardly anyone knows what an Apple TV even is.
 
I won't use / support any streaming devices, including Apple TV, etc, because I like to have control of my content without relying on one of these devices. Im not reliant upon internet access to watch a movie / show. I prefer this on Blu-Ray disc, and these devices cannot stream blu-ray quality.

Having a physical movie disc, means I can watch it without worry about internet access, no downloads and a lot better quality - with no DRM restrictions (I remove these for a personal backup). Streaming is mainly about convenience, but now when you lose control rights.
 
give the apple tv gigabit ethernet, 802.11ac, and an A7 processor and I'll think about it. Right now it is running a single-core A5 (slower than an iPad 2), 10/100 ethernet, 802.11n 1x1 (150mbps max). No wonder airplay is laggy.
 
If you live in the UK the Apple TV is very poor value for money. OK it can stream stuff from your IOS devices but has none of the services the Chromecast has, e.g. BBC iplayer, BT Sport, Sky Movies, to name a few.
Iplayer and Bt sport can airplay. Sky go airplay would be good.
 
And how do these numbers look like in the surprisingly large parts of the world that are not the US?

To be fair, Roku is only available in UK and Canada and Chromecast in Canada and a few European countries, while Apple TV is available worldwide.
 
They really have missed a trick once again, I have loved our ATV 2 and the 1 before that but most people I try to convince either but a Roku or Jailbroken an AT2 instead of buying 3, in fact on Ebay ATv3 can be had for £30 where as ATV2 is over £140! because they are so popular with Plex and XBMC.

I think Apple spend too much time spreading their engineers around and missing opportunities, I have to say my friends Roku looks much better than my ATV2, I mostly use it for streaming films from my iTunes or Airplay, but having just discovered PLex it's way better than my iTunes movie Library plus I can add any format I like! Once I installed it all of our home movies I archived via iMovie come up, iTunes won't do this cos it's such limited format, I was going to convert them all one day , now I won't bother!
 
Yeah sure, apple should be more helpful when it comes to watching Mkv-movies you are not willing to pay for.

So by that logic they should never have made iTunes, iDVD, Quicktime, integrated MP3 and all the other codecs on iPhones, iPads and iPods, included CD/DVD burners in their Macs and also not allow you to install 3rd party apps on Mac OS, just in case you install something "naughty" like uTorrent or VLC...

:rolleyes:
 
Considering they don't advertise it, haven't updated it in a while, and it's only just left "hobby" status, third place isn't bad.
 
The secret to Roku's success is easy access to live, international TV. If apple were to offer these channels at an affordable price, sales WILL pick up. The KORTV app is a good start, but more is needed.
 
Honestly streaming is okay for smaller TVs but it's totally unacceptable once you go above 70 inch screen.
 
AppleTV - Good But Frustrating

I've had AppleTV for some time now. In many respects it works just great and I'm now using it much more to stream content from my iMac - especially movies etc. There are, however, two big bugbears for me.
1) It is incredibly US-centric. There are Apple customers outside the USA - not that you would know it from the channels available on AppleTV. Surely it can't be too hard to negotiate rights to stream Freeview channels in the UK. Every other box on the market can do it.
2) Facilities to organise content are way too limited. As streaming becomes a more common way of storing and viewing content there have to be better ways of classifying, sorting and retrieving content.
 
That number will get worse because the new screen cast feature on Chromecast is awesome. I'm buying 2 more for a total of 4.
It's amazing how everything gets duplicated from screen to tv wirelessly from my Note 3. And for only $35 bucks!
 
The thing is that both of these other devices are an Apple TV combined. Airplay + Own Ui for renting etc. Apple TV if worth more imo
 
Yeah sure, apple should be more helpful when it comes to watching Mkv-movies you are not willing to pay for.

There's an easier way. Try 'Beamer'. It's the best $15-$20 you'll spend for streaming any type of file, of any size from you Mac. MKVs play flawlessly (you can try it for free as the trial version plays for 15 minutes).
 
I have to say that Chromecast is the Apple device that Apple never did. It's beautiful in its combination of simplicity and power – exactly what Apple is known for. The Apple TV looks awkward in comparison, a set-top box that harkens back to the early days of cable and satellite TV, and that's no easy feat to pull off when the Apple TV is streamlined for a specific purpose already. Chromecast is finally getting mirroring "officially" too.

Google outdid Apple on this one.
 
I have a chromecast and used it to watch breaking bad with my free netflix. Since then, the chromecast hasn't been used once.
 
To be fair, Roku is only available in UK and Canada and Chromecast in Canada and a few European countries, while Apple TV is available worldwide.
Exactly my point: quite possible that Roku and Chromecast outsell the AppleTV in the US, but in most parts of the world, they aren't even trying.

I've had AppleTV for some time now. In many respects it works just great and I'm now using it much more to stream content from my iMac - especially movies etc. There are, however, two big bugbears for me.
1) It is incredibly US-centric. There are Apple customers outside the USA - not that you would know it from the channels available on AppleTV. …
Roku and Chromecast are even far more US-centric. See above.
 
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