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You mean a device with short battery life

Confused where you and every other complainer on here gets "short battery life" from. I guess some people like to talk just to talk.

I've never once had an issue with my battery getting me through a day - 1.5 days isn't out of the question either.
 
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May be a personal preference, but for your information: a circular smartwatch has never worked. Yes, it looks more lile a traditional watch then, but it's just not practical. If you look at some of those Android Wear watches... yuk, so ugly in my opinion.
Practicality is not the problem with the Apple watch, or any smart watch in general which aims to be a premium product. It first needs to look good, and then it needs to do extra stuff. Consumers don't expect to do much out of that 1" screen on your wrist, but they expect it to look good if you're gonna have it exposed on your wrist all the time.

None (or most) of Android circular watches didn't even meet the first criterion, but Apple could surely have done better. A little compromise in usability, way better aesthetics.
 
But the Watch is not "technology" per se. It's a fashion piece, with technology in it. And it's relatively expensive.
I don't mean to denigrate the product, I am just perplexed by the release cycle.
Classical watches don't become obsolete, because they are mechanical. There is no updating to be done and will tell you time just fine after 100 years, however the moment you put technology in, it. will be obsolete in a few years. That's normal.
 
But the Watch is not "technology" per se. It's a fashion piece, with technology in it. And it's relatively expensive.
I don't mean to denigrate the product, I am just perplexed by the release cycle.
Series 2 has made it crystal clear that Apple is not focusing this as a fashion device going forward.

I think the whole focus on fashion was simply to get the "trend setters" wearing one for the knock-on effects of doing so, and was a short term marketing decision.

(To me anyway) This is clearly a computing device going forward.
 
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A fashion accessory should look good, this watch design looks like crap. I'm not surprised they sold a bunch of them, they could sell an ITurd and the fanboys would snap it up.

Looks well enough to wear, in my estimation. I think that you're wrong. Most people who are buying these either like the way it looks or they just weren't wearing watches regularly before and this watch gave them a reason to wear something on their wrist every day because it does something besides tell time. I do think it could be made to look better, but I am not a "I hope everyone sees my Patek and realizes how stylish I am" type of person.

I own one semi-luxury watch (a Tag) and I really don't wear it.
 
Wow, good on Garmin for that improvement there. Also, more people buying Garmin than Samsung Gear. Maybe I ought to give their offerings a look.
 
Practicality is not the problem with the Apple watch. It first needs to look good, and then it needs to do extra stuff.

None (or most) of Android circular watches didn't even meet the first criterion, but Apple could surely have done better. A little compromise in usability, way better aesthetics.
In order to make a circular smartwatch work, the software needs to be changed to adapt to it. And it's gonna look bad. We've seen it with Android Wear. I totally hate it. I think the current Apple Watch shows exactly how a smartwatch should be.

Functionality goes before design, that I can tell you. If you want design to work, you gotta first make sure the hardware, software is there, so you can think of how you're gonna make the design. Otherwise you'd have design and then you realize "hey, that chip doesn't fit!". :p
 
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What do you want it to do? Iron your clothes?
I don't know what it want it do, but frankly not what it's doing now. Do not disturb is my all time favorite thing and my phone volume is on probably 0.1%. I'm constantly on my phone, so why would I want notifications to interrupt my peace and quiet?
The fitness stuff would be nice, but it doesn't warrant the cost based on my interest.
It's Apple though. They'll probably do something to excite me sooner rather than later.
 
May be a personal preference, but for your information: a circular smartwatch has never worked. Yes, it looks more lile a traditional watch then, but it's just not practical. If you look at some of those Android Wear watches... yuk, so ugly in my opinion.
Now this, makes me laugh. I remember a stylus not working until Apple did it. Fact is people stil buy iPhones even if they have last years model that works perfectly, some even have more than one. They haven’t done the same with the watch as it’s not a compelling enough product in neither looks, nor function, nor price.
If the product is good enough with the right brand behind it people will find and excuse to buy it whether they need one or not. It just isn't that good.

Simples.
 
You mean a device with short battery life, limited app usage, and main feature is for people too lazy to get to their smart phone for an alert is not selling well? I am just shocked!

When the watch can replace the smart phone, they will sell well. until them it's not even a hobby...
It's selling just fine.

Let's put it in some context. The iPhone 4 was released in June 2010. The iPhone 4s was released in October 2011. Now of course sales in summer 2011 were significantly lower than summer 2010 because ther was a new model in summer 2010, and everyone was holding off in summer 2011.
 
No **** Sherlock... they've just released some new models, no wonder sales are in a huge decline. Many people have been waiting for those new models, it's that simple.

Why do they always need to conduct a research to find that out? :p
That is obviously part of it. But the other element: Look at the number of reports from people stating that they have stopped using their Apple watch most of the time (or even completely) over the last 12 months and compare that to the same number for iPhones during the first twelve months of their existence. Simply too many people thought that (a) smartwatches would be the next big thing and (b) that Apple's entry might just be the first really useful one. It's like a very popular band releasing a new album after many years and a lot of people buying it before realising that it isn't actually that great.

The momentum of the Apple brand gave a huge boost to the smartwatch category. But the Apple Watch was not attractive enough to sustain that momentum and the whole category has shrunk down in size to a more sustainable level where sales interest is driven by actual product utility and not be an expectation of utility.
 
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You want monthly?

Tesla releases new cars quarterly and that doesn't seem to hurt them in the slightest. (2Q ago, revamped appearance. Last quarter, quicker 0-60 and longer range. This quarter, new sensors and computers for full autonomy. My money is on faster charging for next quarter.)
 
Now this, makes me laugh. I remember a stylus not working until Apple did it. Fact is people stil buy iPhones even if they have last years model that works perfectly, some even have more than one. They haven’t done the same with the watch as it’s not a compelling enough product in neither looks, nor function, nor price.
Simples.
I've never said a stylus works, have I?

Fact is, Apple Watch is still some kind of small smartphone that you put on your wrist. It's got a display that has to be functional in terms of displaying lines of text. Which isn't practical with a round screen. Why do you think there are no round smartphones? It's ecactly because of that: it wouldn't work.
 
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Yeah, I wouldn't call that a "slightly updated first-generation model". I had the first gen, and then I upgraded to get the faster processor in the new Watch. It makes a big difference. (didn't need waterproofing or standalone GPS) Now it's much closer to how a smartwatch should work - as instantaneously as possible.

For the things that approach this ideal, the Watch is a pleasure to use. Anytime you have to wait any perceptible amount of time, it kinda defeats the purpose of using a computer on your wrist. The new Watch is much closer to getting there.
 
Goodness me, 70% fewer.

Seems to me that Apple should put the Apple Watch out of its misery, and end its short life. Fitbit, which is conveniently left off this table, has won this market. The Apple Watch does too much and is too expensive for the use case that most people have for a wearable: a fitness device.

If Apple are not careful, their obsession with fashion will turn it into the next Blackberry.
 
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You mean a device with short battery life, limited app usage, and main feature is for people too lazy to get to their smart phone for an alert is not selling well? I am just shocked!
You are considering ONLY one part of the "audience", while I am not lazy I still use my watch a lot, because in some situation I cannot reach or pull out my phone, and sure there are others who are in the same boat.

Full day battery life is not great but not terrible either and not short by any means (my phones get charged way more!!) and as for the apps, it is hardly Apple's fault if developers are slow at getting great apps out, some of them are really cool and not "limited" as you say, others are.

I know, you are not the target audience hence you need to talk bad about the product and or the people who owns one.

I have worn mine each day since it was released, and while it hasn't completely changed my life, it is still something I want to have with me and something that in some cases has really changed the day!
 
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