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Apple Sold More Macs and iDevices Than All Windows PCs Sold in Holiday Quarter

Cmdrx3 said:
What a stupid comparison. That's a bit like saying Hotpoint sold more washing machines, ovens, toasters, kettles dishwashers and fridge freezers combined than all other appliance companies sold toasters.

If some statsmonger wants to do comparisons then do them properly and don't slant it to prove whatever it is you want to prove.
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Grasp at straws much?

Look at the graph. It's pretty obvious that OS X and iOS devices sold right at what Windows 7 desktop and Windows 8.x desktop/mobile(the equivalent of OS X + iOS) sold for the quarter. And if you look at the trend you will see it's been going away from Windows for a while.

Windows had a sizable lead, and they've lost it. They're neck and neck with Apple, and getting creamed every day in real time. And it's only getting worse for MS. That's the point you should take from this article.

Gist of the story: Given a choice, more people pick Apple than MS. Pretty simple math.

You can now go back to using IE, Paint, Windows Media Player and 3.7GB of your memory...
 
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I presume they are deciding not to include all the PC's made by the millions of people who put their own together.

Buying cases, motherboard etc etc etc.....

If that's the case I have never in my entire life bought a PC, but I've had pc's for many many many years.
 
Cmdrx3 said:
What a stupid comparison. That's a bit like saying Hotpoint sold more washing machines, ovens, toasters, kettles dishwashers and fridge freezers combined than all other appliance companies sold toasters.

If some statsmonger wants to do comparisons then do them properly and don't slant it to prove whatever it is you want to prove.
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It's called the post PC era:cool:
 
nagromme said:
Anyone who thinks iPhones and iPads aren't computers that are being used heavily for things that used to need an traditional-style computer is REALLY trying to cling to the past!
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Well I can't use my iPad for anything heavy as programs I use every day are not written for it, and they can't be, and never will be unless the device changes dramatically
 
Piggie said:
I presume they are deciding not to include all the PC's made by the millions of people who put their own together.

Buying cases, motherboard etc etc etc.....

If that's the case I have never in my entire life bought a PC, but I've had pc's for many many many years.
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That number may be too low to count
 
Piggie said:
I presume they are deciding not to include all the PC's made by the millions of people who put their own together.
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Methodologically, I don't see an obvious way to count that. (Just because I buy a motherboard doesn't mean I'm building a new computer.) And from a practical perspective, surely you don't think that would change the results significantly--the number can't be that high, can it?
 
Must have been a slow news day at the pump and dump department of this analyst firm so now they're making up worthless research like this.
 
macs4nw said:
Yeah, but since they added in iPhones and iPads, shouldn't they also, at the very least, have included Android phones and tablets?
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In what way Android devices are related to Windows PCs ecosystem ?

Why people feel the need to put Android in every single thread on this forum ??? :rolleyes:
 
PC's

Last I checked, iPods, iPads and iPhones are NOT PC's. I mean, it's great they're making money, but yeah, those things aren't computers.
 
Even lowly Windows 8 by itself has surpassed all versions of OS X combined. I have OS X 10.9.2 at home win 8.1 at work. Both work perfectly for what I need them to do.

My team tests and deploys client devices to employees at my company of over 2000 where employees can chose Windows, Mac, or IOS devices in any form. Its not even close that the overwhelming majority of work is still getting done on Windows.

There simply aren't that many people creating work related content on iOS devices. Consuming content yes, creating content no.
 
nagromme said:
Anyone who thinks iPhones and iPads aren't computers that are being used heavily for things that used to need an traditional-style computer is REALLY trying to cling to the past!
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Nobody said they aren't capable of content creation like (to an extent) full fledged desktop and laptop computers, but at this point, they just aren't the same and aren't as capable. TECHNICALLY, yes, iPads and other iOS devices are computers. They computer, have ram, processors, run applications, etc etc, but they aren't nearly as powerful as a desktop or laptop and are in a far lower class than computers (cultural sense of what constitutes as a computer, including MACs and Windows/Linux based computers).
 
Samsung is now going to include refrigerators in the count of PCs/Phones/Tablets they sell. I heard you can run apps, lookup weather, create content (postit notes etc) on the refrigerators.
 
Max(IT) said:
In what way Android devices are related to Windows PCs ecosystem?…..
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The same way iPhones and iPads are related to iMacs, MacBooks, etc.

Max(IT) said:
…..Why people feel the need to put Android in every single thread on this forum ??? :rolleyes:
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Never remotely felt the need to bring up Android, but this particular article's premise is flawed, and their conclusion is meaningless in that context.
 
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rdlink said:
Windows had a sizable lead, and they've lost it.
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I think that's the main take-away from this article. Apple used to make computers, printers, monitors, etc.... But after the era of the original Mac, it didn't matter. They had a barely perceptible share of the technology market. Microsoft dominated technology, not because they made computers but because nearly all computers ran Windows and everyone used Office.

Apple has wisely diversified since then. All this article is saying is that more Apple devices are sold now than all Windows computers from all manufacturers combined. To me, that's an astounding reversal for a company that 20 years ago was considered dead.
 
macs4nw said:
The same way iPhones and iPads are related to iMacs, MacBooks, etc.



Never remotely felt the need to bring up Android, but this particular article's premise is flawed, and their conclusion is meaningless in that context.
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The compassion is between apple vs. windows??????

Why on earth would you include android unless your comparing apple vs windows vs google.
 
Piggie said:
Well I can't use my iPad for anything heavy as programs I use every day are not written for it, and they can't be, and never will be unless the device changes dramatically
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Well I write some of my own "heavy lifting" programs, and my iPhone 5S out-number-crunches an expensive hot Athlon workstation that my previous employer paid big bucks for just a few years back.

The main thing I still use my Mac for is Xcode, developing iOS apps, some which do can "heavy-lifting" CAD/CAE type computation. Now I have ready access to that computational analysis in the field, instead of having to wait to go back to my desk.

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Cmdrx3 said:
What a stupid comparison.
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Yup. That's what IBM said about microprocessors and personal computers back when IBM sold over 90% of all the big computers used for real data processing. Just toys. Not "real" computers.
 
Ichabod. said:
A bit like comparing Apples and oranges...
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More like Apples to Windows. ;)

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firewood said:
Yup. That's what IBM said about microprocessors and personal computers back when IBM sold over 90% of all the big computers used for real data processing. Just toys. Not "real" computers.
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Except that's not what anyone is saying here. If you make this comparison you need to as windows tablets and phones to it to, because that is exactly what Microsofts product analogous to iOS is. This really is an awful comparison, irregardless of whether what people think about iOS devices being "real computers".

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osofast240sx said:
The compassion is between apple vs. windows??????

Why on earth would you include android unless your comparing apple vs windows vs google.
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Because comparing apple to windows is just as pointless? Compare apple to Microsoft. As in all of each company's product. Or just compare windows and Mac. Or even windows phone and iOS.
 
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