That’s the idea, but Apple’s rules make that economically impossible, or at least highly impractical.
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That’s the idea, but Apple’s rules make that economically impossible, or at least highly impractical.
Problem is the DMA is only asking the question of competition, and I think they are asking the wrong questions and the law is poorly worded.
Apple could have avoided this with any kind of safety valve for people who want to use their powerful iPhone to do things Apple doesn’t explicitly allow.
But the DMA doesn’t allow this at all and it’s the worst of both worlds. This is all about money and not at all about software freedom.
Apple still has complete control. And if the rules as Apple declared them stand, absolutely nothing has been gained for anyone except a lot of unnecessary complexity.
Hopefully this will do great things like giving us fifty different streaming services to choose from where you need at least three to get minimal content. Luckily all content is free in Europe.
The technology fee is harsh for free apps that Apple won’t allow in the App Store, like game emulators which are traditionally developed by volunteers and released for free.
Is it that hard to allow app installs without a marketplace like desktop operating systems?
I will absolutely laugh if it becomes as bad as Windows. They replaced the Hulu app with an “app” that is basically the website in a wrapper. No structural difference from just opening the web browser and going to the Hulu website.
EU citizen here. I don't understand why people are against this. This gives more options, and hopefully we will see some of all the apps that Apple does not want in the App Store. For example emulators.
As I understand it, you must actively choose to download a 3rd party App Marketplace in the App Store - just like if you download every other app. If you don't want to trust anyone other than Apple - well, then you just don't download the marketplace app, and continue to download apps from the App Store. I don't assume that Apple is promoting apps that are available in 3rd party marketplaces without being VERY clear about it.
I am excited to see what opportunities this openness will bring.
As I understand it, you must actively choose to download a 3rd party App Marketplace in the App Store - just like if you download every other app. If you don't want to trust anyone other than Apple - well, then you just don't download the marketplace app, and continue to download apps from the App Store. I don't assume that Apple is promoting apps that are available in 3rd party marketplaces without being VERY clear about it.
I am excited to see what opportunities this openness will bring.
It will soon. The floodgates are now open.. remember how hard we had to press them to give us USB C and they still gave us USB 2.0 speeds on non Pro devices. But they will eventually have to give faster speeds.
Don’t bother for now. Wait for the EU to correct Apple’s behavior, especially that anticompetitive “Core Technology Fee.”
I think there’s multiple viewpoints here.
To list a few, there are users, developers, and people like myself who are security experts.
As a security person, this is a nightmare because it places the onus on the user, and frankly, users are dumb. Case in point was the “Face app” from 5 or 6 years ago that makes you look older. Were users aware their pictures were being sent to Russia for data mining? Nope, because they didn’t read the Terms of Service.
I have a very hard time believing when something goes sideways (which it inevitably will), users will blame themselves and not whine to Apple for their poor choices.
In general, people should stay away from all those photo apps that can do all kinds of amazing things. It is either a scam, or made exclusively for people to make an expensive subscription.
Having said that, I agree with you - ordinary consumers are stupid when it comes to IT security. But I also believe that people must take responsibility for what they do. It should not close the possibility for all the people who want the freedom to buy their apps wherever they want. We've been able to download apps for our iPhones since 2008, so it's about time people took a little interest in what they're doing - and if they don't, hopefully it will teach them what not to do. It might make people wiser.
Why are so many people against this? The Mac didn’t even have an App Store for a very long time, and things have been fine.
Personally I look forward to finally be able to use my devices for whatever I want. I’ve always loved the idea of having an iPad Pro as my main computer, but because of apples stupid limitations with their software it’s a no go.
However once the AppStore is opened up there we’ll eventually get full blown, not watered down apps at last, and we’ll finally be able to use it for real work. Who knows, maybe some devs will be able to find out how to port full blown Mac apps to the platform?
The only thing I will agree with is apples anticompetitive pricing, hopefully this will be changed.
Personally I look forward to finally be able to use my devices for whatever I want. I’ve always loved the idea of having an iPad Pro as my main computer, but because of apples stupid limitations with their software it’s a no go.
However once the AppStore is opened up there we’ll eventually get full blown, not watered down apps at last, and we’ll finally be able to use it for real work. Who knows, maybe some devs will be able to find out how to port full blown Mac apps to the platform?
The only thing I will agree with is apples anticompetitive pricing, hopefully this will be changed.
Hopefully iMessage and FaceTime interoperability is next! Also I wish Apple were forced to open up airplay, it’s just ridiculous
According to Craig it is 😂
And all of this started when Craig was named head of software🤔
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Y’all need to ask yourselves, what happens when this happens on windows or Mac OS? These platforms haven’t imploded as everyone seems to think
Well I'm guessing unlike desktops, the EU takes issue with the App Store itself and competitors want their own app stores, rather than just the ability to install a .app file or whatever.
The EU is surely ushering in a golden age of consumer pricing! Credit card processing fees will plummet! Developers will rush to give everyone huge savings on apps! Subscriptions will be so cheap that no one will complain about too many apps requiring subscriptions! Nobody will notice the slightest difference in security/privacy because this whole thing was TOTALLY about rolling out the red carpet for consumers!
Maybe not those specific services, but I totally expect a 3rd party like Microsoft opening up their own App Store and forcing you to use it to install something like MS Office, for example. Same goes for lots of game developers.
This really isn't going to be all that great for us Europeans, many people's brains stop at the mentioning of "we get more choice" and think that this is automatically a good thing, when it really isn't. The long-term effects of multiple app stores may not be that positive at all.
This is a fair assessment.
Apple tried to hold off on third party stores, but the EU forced their hand. Now they have to, but the user isn’t going to know the difference. Apple is in a no-win situation, if they lock it down too much they run afoul of the EU rules, if they open it up without restriction and user data is compromised, they lose trust with their users.
I don’t envy Tim Cook at all on this.
Did Apple force you to buy an iPhone? That is still my number one issue. Were you forced to do that?
I strongly urge everyone to buy a Motorola phone. That's the only way to stand up to high business controlling your phone. 🤣
I’m not sure MacOS has a native Hulu app. I’d like to hope apps don’t become stale like the Windows Store apps have.
macOS and Windows never had the lockdown setup like iPhone has for all of these years. The closest Windows got was Windows RT and Windows “S” mode.
Users were totally used to going to a website and downloading software. That’s foreign to iOS.