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I don't know but it feels like the tech world is in for some troubling times as we head into the next decade.

Agreed

The short term business incentives have nuked the concept of building great products, as that concept flies in the face of trying to get people to "buy again" or "subscribe" to something in an ongoing way.

Those things shouldn't be incompatible, but the financial side of the world has gotten ever more impatient (to the detriment of us all) and the entire industry now just wants "instant home runs"

Even something like Vision Pro, which does have potential as a platform, has gotten almost no investment on the content/software/Dev support side from its OWN maker (Apple).

Everyone just wants the baked cake, without putting together the ingredients, going through the process and waiting for it to "bake".
 
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Even something like Vision Pro, which does have potential as a platform, has gotten almost no investment on the content/software/Dev support side from its OWN maker (Apple).
The AVP is a perfect example of that. Apple treated that thing like the 3D Touch 🤣. But it's the same with Apple Intelligence, rather than taking their time to come up with something truly useful and they rushed out a bunch of trash and tried to sell it like it was next best thing....and we are still waiting. These last few product launches of AI and AVP have been really interesting to watch and so different from the old Apple.
 
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"It's mind-boggling that Apple hasn't gotten there yet."

It isn't mind-boggling at all. Cramming all the necessary silicon, sensors, RF and battery into some spectacle frames to achieve something that doesn't look like the eye-wear from Joe 90 or weigh half as much as VR kit, is no small feat of engineering.
 
This is what I think everyone should have a one-month opportunity to do right now. Apple flat out lied. They made it seem like this AI was going to be great - so far it’s been a complete **** show.

I read some crap by Gruber who defended Apple. And I thought such a wrong way to go about it. It’s a company. Defending the company makes zero sense, especially when they are this wrong.

I wonder if Apple marketing contacts people with a small bit of influence to please change the narrative from it’s not coming for another year to it’s really hard stuff to do and it’s going to take until maybe as long as the end of 2026??? Giving Apple, the company, an out.

I wish the board would take action against Tim. Let him retire with his golden parachute. Then find an innovator to bring the company back for the future. Tim built a lot value in the company, but I don’t see anything improving as a stakeholder other than shareholders. That’s a problem. The employees make less, the customers pay more, and the CEO spends billions on projects because he has no idea what technology they can really make work and what they can’t. He’s no Steve Jobs. This made tremendous value for the company over the last 13+ years, but I don’t see it rising now. I just don’t see how Apple can truly be Apple without a visionary. And what Tim has done only emboldened then shareholders and executives. All the other stakeholders got a raw deal. Apple is the IBM from their commercial so many years ago - but they’re worse.
The trouble is innovation isn’t profitable.

Maintaining market share is profitable and that’s what Tim Cook does well. So the shareholders love him.

Remember Jobs was fired from his own company because of too much innovation (and lack of profitability).
 
Where is the tech world headed overall? It feels like they are running out runway. Everything kinda seems like it's reaching its peak.

With TV's, they have done studies to show that the average person can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k. The human eye can't see past 120Hz refresh rates. TV's are huge now and super bright with amazing black levels and color gamuts.

Cameras are now all moving to 40+mp and 4k120p recording. More than the average person will ever need.

The new M4 MacBook Air in its base configuration can easily edit 4k footage and will be more than 95% users will ever need for watching YouTube and looking at social media for 5+ years.

All these things can have minor upgrades but nothing that would warrant a large scale shift in tech. I think tech companies are really going to struggle to get people to buy their goods moving forward as there simply isn't a reason too. CES the last few years has been utterly pathetic in showing off anything game changing or even interesting for that matter.

It also seems that's why Apple is getting in to the home tech space. A space they have neglected and even seemingly looked down on, bc it's one of the few markets left to still sell hardware in. I don't know but it feels like the tech world is in for some troubling times as we head into the next decade.

The tech world has runway for whatever hardware they want to chase. The issue is just capitalism’s unending desire for more. Tech stocks are viewed as growth stocks where returns are expected to be greater every year. That’s not sustainable, but they’d be fine if dividends were used as intended.

Take your 4k vs 8k example. Studies have not shown that people can’t resolve the difference between 4k and 8k. They’ve shown that people can’t see the difference between 4k and 8k when looking at a standard sized TV at a typical viewing distance. But what if the TVs got bigger? The theoretical max size of a TV is your entire wall. 4k won’t cut it for that, but a host of technology advancements, innovative ideas and cost savings are needed to make something like that an interesting proposition. They are of course also chasing capabilities other than resolution as well. Take high dynamic range as an example. There’s plenty of runway for TVs to evolve, even if current televisions don’t need greater pixel density. VR of course still does need greater pixel density (at a lower cost) so there’s still plenty of reasons to chase advancements in pixel density as well.

We’re nowhere near the end of technological advancement, we’re just in late stage capitalism where investors squeeze the life out of everything. Apple has never stopped innovating, they’ve just shifted from technology innovation to innovation in revenue generation (specifically in services). That choice was made to maximize returns, not because technical innovation is approaching the end of its usefulness. Apple’s largest interest in smart homes will probably be camera feeds because that’s something they can charge a monthly fee for, as proven by Ring and others.
 
Expect to see a shearling coated and tracksuited Tim Cook, complete with a bad grey perm and heavy gold neckchain any day now.
 
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We’re nowhere near the end of technological advancement, we’re just in late stage capitalism where investors squeeze the life out of everything. Apple has never stopped innovating, they’ve just shifted from technology innovation to innovation in revenue generation (specifically in services). That choice was made to maximize returns, not because technical innovation is approaching the end of its usefulness. Apple’s largest interest in smart homes will probably be camera feeds because that’s something they can charge a monthly fee for, as proven by Ring and others.

This is a really nice summary of the situation and problems

(Bold and italic emphasis mine)
 
The trouble is innovation isn’t profitable.

Maintaining market share is profitable and that’s what Tim Cook does well. So the shareholders love him.

Remember Jobs was fired from his own company because of too much innovation (and lack of profitability).
The sad truth of where we are right now, both technologically and morally, as a society.
 
Dang! I'd buy a pair just to look like Buddy Holly! And if they could correct my vision and spy on everybody around me so much the better.
 
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I'd love to try a pair of those Meta Ray Bans... but I feel like it would only be worth it if I wore them all the time. I detest wearing my glasses (I have contacts) as they are constantly getting dirty and even the smallest streak on the frame annoys me to no end.
 
The sad truth of where we are right now, both technologically and morally, as a society.

The trouble is innovation isn’t profitable.

Maintaining market share is profitable and that’s what Tim Cook does well. So the shareholders love him.

Remember Jobs was fired from his own company because of too much innovation (and lack of profitability).
I respectfully disagree. Innovation is the ONLY way to preserve profit and market share. Who would buy an original iPhone 1 for daily use? I also disagree with your assessment of Job's firing. Steve Jobs was fired from Apple in 1985 due to significant clashes with the company's CEO, John Sculley, primarily stemming from disagreements over product strategy and poor sales of the Lisa and Macintosh computers, leading to a power struggle with the board of directors who ultimately decided to remove him from the company. His best friend stabbed him in the back. Never say Jobs wasn't focused on making money. He was a billionaire at age 40 when Pixar went public. Then became a multi-billionaire in 2006 when he sold Pixar to Disney for $7 billion, and became Disney's largest shareholder. And he sold the NextOS to Apple for $700 million. He was a lot like Elon Musk, even in personality, but not as crazy.
 
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Let's not kid ourselves here.

Apple's managers are throwing a rather complex situation at users to stay employed. Instead of focusing on simplicity you get bloated and expensive objects like recent products like the iPhone 16e and Apple Vision Pro. Eventually Tim will put his foot down to get it to production to recoup costs, even if the project is a bloated mess.
Expensive and bloated… Like the 16e?
Sir if you’re going to use examples of things being expensive and bloated, why on earth would you choose the least expensive and least bloated iPhone they make?
It’s literally, along with the recent 11th generation iPad, the simplest iOS device that they make.
 
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I think any kind of smartglasses without some sort of visual HUD element is a blown opportunity and a waste of the form factor.
 
"It's mind-boggling that Apple hasn't gotten there yet."

Thanks Mark for your input. 🙄 do people know how hard it is to make any product like this let alone a great one. I got rid of my Meta Ray-Bans (mostly because of their privacy policy).
I agree with Mark. It's mind boggling that Apple has done so little innovation since Cook took over. And how far behind they are at so many things AI). It's not like they don't have the money to invest in more engineers.
 
Apple flat out lied. They made it seem like this AI was going to be great - so far it’s been a complete **** show.
Do you have a specific quote you’re referring to where Apple lied? The goal of all advertising is to make a product seem much greater than it is. But “great”, “amazing”, etc—these things are subjective, so it’s not lying nor illegal. The line is when they give false objective information. Eg. if they said they would release AppleI by a certain time but they do not, then that would be objectively false information. Still probably not “lying” as that would imply intent, but false.
 
I agree with Mark. It's mind boggling that Apple has done so little innovation since Cook took over. And how far behind they are at so many things AI). It's not like they don't have the money to invest in more engineers.

Are you not enjoying your Apple Car?
Something wrong with your AirPower mat?
Did your TouchBar reboot again this morning?
Tired of the same limited content on your VisionPro?
Butterfly keyboard crap out again?

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The tech world has runway for whatever hardware they want to chase. The issue is just capitalism’s unending desire for more. Tech stocks are viewed as growth stocks where returns are expected to be greater every year. That’s not sustainable, but they’d be fine if dividends were used as intended.

Take your 4k vs 8k example. Studies have not shown that people can’t resolve the difference between 4k and 8k. They’ve shown that people can’t see the difference between 4k and 8k when looking at a standard sized TV at a typical viewing distance. But what if the TVs got bigger? The theoretical max size of a TV is your entire wall. 4k won’t cut it for that, but a host of technology advancements, innovative ideas and cost savings are needed to make something like that an interesting proposition. They are of course also chasing capabilities other than resolution as well. Take high dynamic range as an example. There’s plenty of runway for TVs to evolve, even if current televisions don’t need greater pixel density. VR of course still does need greater pixel density (at a lower cost) so there’s still plenty of reasons to chase advancements in pixel density as well.

We’re nowhere near the end of technological advancement, we’re just in late stage capitalism where investors squeeze the life out of everything. Apple has never stopped innovating, they’ve just shifted from technology innovation to innovation in revenue generation (specifically in services). That choice was made to maximize returns, not because technical innovation is approaching the end of its usefulness. Apple’s largest interest in smart homes will probably be camera feeds because that’s something they can charge a monthly fee for, as proven by Ring and others.
Studies HAVE SHOWN that people can't tell the difference on very large TVs at close range. Most people are just guessing if it's better or not.

Your points are kinda all over the place. With TV's, most people would struggle to find room for a 75" TV let alone a whole wall so chasing larger TV's or the need for 8k is becoming a losing battle.

If you want higher dynamic range or higher pixel counts for VR, sure that can improve but let's be honest for once and admit that is a tiny market and will be for the foreseeable future.

Lastly, I never said Apple is at the end of technological advancement. But from a consumer-tech standpoint, game changing break throughs are going to be fewer and farther between. A tech product company like Apple may find itself struggling to find ways to entice people to buy products at a rate consumers have in the past.
 
Are you not enjoying your Apple Car?
Something wrong with your AirPower mat?
Did your TouchBar reboot again this morning?
Tired of the same limited content on your VisionPro?
Butterfly keyboard crap out again?

😁
You see the new camera concept from Xiaomi? One of the more innovative things I've seen from a smartphone. Even if you don't want the camera, the laser connection is really useful. You can add an SSD to it, a monitor for seeing yourself while recording with the smartphone camera and host of other options. Really cool stuff.
 
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Are you not enjoying your Apple Car?
Something wrong with your AirPower mat?
Did your TouchBar reboot again this morning?
Tired of the same limited content on your VisionPro?
Butterfly keyboard crap out again?

😁
You should write a book called “Siri doesn’t understand me” 😂
 
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You see the at new camera concept from Xiaomi? One of the more innovative things I've seen from a smartphone. Even if you don't want the camera, the laser connection is really useful. You can add an SSD to it, a monitor for seeing yourself while recording with the smartphone camera and host of other options. Really cool stuff.
There are great examples of innovation on mobile phones. You only won’t see it coming from Apple.
 
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Apple doesn’t have AI. Hard to include that.
You’re right about that. Apple tells its AI as a marketing selling point but in reality it doesn’t have real AI from its own. The link to ChatGPT is only rerouting the old “this is what I’ve found on the internet”
 
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