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I think Apple is getting a little too predictable with this sort of thing. Yeah, people are going to be burned when the Touch is released with a camera later on this year....or next year, whatever.

Like I said before, I really think Apple just want's to sell more of their Nanos. Expect a LOT of iPod Touch backed-up backstock from retailers this year. :D
 
I hope they come out an ipod touch with the camera next month. haha that would be fun. =)

Guys, this is what you don't understand. When you buy, your buying what's on offer at the time because you want whats on offer. If they come out with a camera tomorrow, then you can't complain, because you obviously didn't want a camera and was happy with what they were selling at the time. I'm getting an iPod Touch 3G, I'll be happy with it, and when an iPod Touch with a camera comes out, then I'll buy it. If you can't afford upgrading, wait until the iPod Touch has all the features you want.
 
Well, Apple up to their normal crappy ways. They will get tons of people to upgrade o this version, then they will add a camera, and get people to upgrade to that version. They really changed as of recent.
 
maybe they left it out so it'll blend better :)

I don't know why they left it out and I just don't believe the story about technical issues is the reasoning. They know how to put cameras in their devices, they did it with the iPhone and they just did it with the Nano which is half the size of a Touch and you're telling me they couldn't figure out a technicality problem to put it in a Touch? Seriously, how could anyone believe that. I truly, truly believe, it was intentionally left out probably just like Jobs said to bring the costs down as low as possible. Besides, they need to have a feature to add for the 4th Gen next year. hehe

i was under the impression it was more of a technical issue with the cameras themselves and not apple. bad batch of cameras?
 
Zune

I think they were thinking of putting one in, but were not sure what Microsoft was going to do with the Zune HD. They may have purposefully leaked the images of an iPod touch with camera to make MS think that's where they were going. MS reacts with a price attack, so Apple leaves the camera out to be able to counter on price since they don't need to compete with a camera the Zune doesn't have.
 
I would guess they wanted to put a better camera in the touch than the nano (i.e. stills) and they couldn't get one small enough that met Steve's requirements.
Greg

I agree. The teardown pointed out that the space for the camera in the touch was not big enough to fit the camera used for the iPhone. So I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer. The question I have is: Will the iPhone always have a better camera because of that (just like the touch always has twice as much flash memory)?
 
product differentiation folks

This was not be accident or by any "problem" with the camera. Apple obviously tested the marketability of the touch and found it was going to be tapping into iPhone sales. Remember the entire point of the ipod touch from Apple's point of view is to capture people who primarily want a video and audio device. If you start adding in toooo many iPhone features, then peoplel might say... hmmm.. you know, my crappy razr works just fine for calls... and it's paid for.... why start a new contract... I'll just buy a touch.

Apple doesn't want that conversation to happen. :)

In reality I think the touch should differentiate itself as much as possible anyway... it should be good at what it does and not try to be everything.
I was really hoping for a higher density screen ( 640x400ish ) and an hdmi 720p video output jack in this version, but I think Apple will end up putting those type of features in the iPad/iBook soon to arrive ( keeping fingers crossed )
 
I'd like to know why people are so keen on a camera in the touch, when, if they did get one, they'd just complain about the quality of it anyway.

--Eric
 
If it's going to get the craptastic video only vga camera that the nano has, I say no thanks. That's a sorry excuse for a camera if it were in the touch. The nano, sure, but the touch is a serious platform and that camera has no business in it. Besides, people with a touch want to be able to take pics too. Not just crappy video. At least make it 720x480 so I can fit it to my wide screen. Who wants 4:3 video anymore?
 
I'd like to know why people are so keen on a camera in the touch, when, if they did get one, they'd just complain about the quality of it anyway.

--Eric

Not if they match the iPhone quality. But if they give us the nano camera, that's just sad. Make it 720p. We will all be very happy. Well, touch users. iPhone users will then complain.
 
seeing how it would have gotten the nano camera I think they changed there mind at the last minute.

I completely agree with you why on earth would the ipod nano get camera but the ipod touch wouldn't even though when the ipod touch is the hottest gaming device on the market. :eek:
 
i think we will see a camera,...... no doubt about it..... steve jobs is a big liar.

yep, he will eat those words and we will all move on. just once i wish someone would put together a clip of all of his contradictive claims to which he did a 180 degrees turn on later and ask him directly to do us the favor of saying nothing rarther than telling us what (he thinks) we want or what (to apples advantage) suits us.
 
I don't believe for a second that Apple pulled the plug on the iPod Touch getting a camera on 09/09/09.

Several reasons:

1) Camera in the Nano only sends the message clearly this is the video iPod.

2) iPod Touch sans video is the Gaming iPod.

3) They needed to get the iPod Touch to $199. A camera chip would cut into their profit margins too much. Better to sell 5-10 Million of these new Touches and THEN, put in the video camera.

4) A video Touch would cannibalize sales of the Nano. It makes a lot more sense to get someone to buy a $149/$179 Nano and then 4-6 months from now, get them to get the video Touch for another $199/$299... I think more then enough people will do it to get to watch home videos on a bigger screen than the 2.2" that the Nano offers.
 
i still think apple should have offered it as an option or maybe just the 64 gb verison... I know i'm debating between the 32/64 i would swing more towards the 64 b/c it has a camera to use some of the apps.
o well bring on the iphone/verizon rumors..i can hope can't i :p
 
Yeah this could, in all possibility, be something in the near future, or like 6 months time. Maybe iPod touch 3.5G?
iPod classic 5.5G? Yeah remember it? Fo sho.
 
I could see apple eventually launching a camera version and selling it side-by-side the normal version with a $50-$100 increase in price at each size. Then they'd phase out the non-camera version and drop the price. Kind of like what they did with the iPod 4G and iPod Photo.

I definitely think the camera was planned initially; that prototype from a while back looked pretty legit.
 
The internals of the released iPod touch 3g (or fall 2009 model):

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Here's picture of the prototype spotted a month ago. You can see clearly that there is a little camera module, but there is a plastic piece on the final model.



Those photos weren't fake.

I believe the cameras did have technical issues and had to be removed, and that they will reappear within 6 months in an updated iPod touch.
 
IMHO I would rather have no camera than a half baked implement like with the new Nanos...

I saw the new Nanos at the Apple shop in Sydney I can say I was far from impressed, the idea of a camera is good the quality was mediocre at best.

And as I've said before if you're basing the entire buy or not to buy solely on if it has a camera or not then the touch isn't for you.
 
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