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Apple Still Seeing Strong Mac Sales Growth Amid Easing iMac Constraints

Yep a new Mac Pro and a new Cinema displays with couple choices of sizes. 27" and a larger than 30" would be appreciate.
It's about time Apple. After all you need the professionals to create the apps and content for the iDevices.
Don't forget about us. :(
 
iChrist said:
So then why even use a Mac Pro? Don't need a Mac Pro for iOS development, Final Cut X is no longer the best video software...

What is benefit of using a Mac Pro vs a Linux or Windows machine? Mac Pro never has support for the best graphics cards.

Just an honest question. Never understood why a Mac Pro would be the choice for true power users...

:apple:
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Frankly I'm fine with anything that doesn't run iOS, but since you asked....

These days it's mostly about the ability to dump more stuff inside the case. I use an rMBP with 16GB RAM, I do max it out on occasion running VMs and such and if I could use a desktop, I would have a MP with 24GB to avoid that. I also have two network drives, one for storage and the other a Time Capsule, and they are both slow. If I could have an extra couple drives in the case, I totally would. What do I use my machine for? CAD and software development mostly, meaning I'd never fully take advantage of the MP's dozen cores. That's why so many people, myself included, would love to see a midrange headless Mac. Something not too powerful or expensive we can just chuck a few extra parts into.
 
Rocketman said:
With Mac at only 10% of revenue and PC sales declining, it might be time for the Mac-Midi expandable, single chip 4 core i7 Mac. And a stackable external enclosure. If all they do is cannibalize PC sales, it would be a winner. As you know all Macs run Windows!

Blade MacPro too.

We have long since needed a Mac that could replace all the utility purposes commodity PC's are installed into. Premium price and quality okay! TCOO is very low. It might need a parallel and serial port option! Okay if it immediately converts to the internal USB/PCIe bus. :D

Rocketman
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How long have you guys been waiting for the mythical Mac mini tower now? Five years? More? I would have thought you got the memo by now. :)
 
JHankwitz said:
All that Apple makes are computers. The iPad 3 has more computing power than the 1988 $8,500,000 Cray Super Computer.
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Of course iToys are computers but you know what he was talking about. Every time someone posts in a forum thread how they liked Apple when it was all about computers some "expert" has to point out the obvious.
 
iChrist said:
The little skinny retina notebooks have better benchmarks than old big clunk mac pro for most meaningful parameters.

Do the math.

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First off, you were talking about iPads and iPhones.

Secondly, making crap up doesn't make it true. The "skinny little retina notebook" doesn't have better benchmarks than the current Mac Pro. Not by a long shot. The 15" MacBook Pro doesn't either.

Where do you people crawl out from?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
\-V-/ said:
First off, you were talking about iPads and iPhones.

Secondly, making crap up doesn't make it true. The "skinny little retina notebook" doesn't have better benchmarks than the current Mac Pro. Not by a long shot. The 15" MacBook Pro doesn't either.

Where do you people crawl out from?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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The rMBP scores 12.5k, the MP 22.1k on Geekbench. A totally insignificant difference :D
 
iChrist said:
The little skinny retina notebooks have better benchmarks than old big clunk mac pro for most meaningful parameters.

Do the math.

:rolleyes:
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My MacPro performs over twice as fast as a top spec-ed iMac or RMBP... Over twice as fast! Do the math yourself little boy...

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iChrist said:
In a few years will just have ipad or iphone that connects to external display and keyboard and will kick current Mac Pro's a$$
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And with GPU-like computing and next generation Xeon CPU's, a Mac Pro would keep the performance threshold to a next generation mobile device, performing realtime raytracing, multilayered 4k stereo video at 48 fps and sophisticated fluid simulations. Technology development does not stop at the low-end.
 
I'd be inclined to agree, but our new 3 month old iMac with its laptop components already blows away our year old 8core Mac Pro, & by the time you total up display & whatnot, does it for a fraction of the cost.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
I'd be inclined to agree, but our new 3 month old iMac with its laptop components already blows away our year old 8core Mac Pro, & by the time you total up display & whatnot, does it for a fraction of the cost.
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The benchmarks say otherwise...

What hardware config was your Mac Pro and what config is your iMac?

And "it feels snappier" isn't a benchmark.
 
Meanwhile, analysts claim that it's the end of PCs. Nope, you need a PC to jailbreak your iOS device.

Seriously though, the whole "PCs are dead very soon" thing is very rushed. Maybe eventually PC sales will drop some, but you need a big screen to do tough work.

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\-V-/ said:
The benchmarks say otherwise...

What hardware config was your Mac Pro and what config is your iMac?

And "it feels snappier" isn't a benchmark.
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New Mac Pros ARE overpriced considering what parts they have. But my 2008 Mac Pro vs my cousin's 2011 iMac: The Mac Pro is a better deal.

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iChrist said:
omg. Really? There is no rule that says computer must be housed in big clunk box with vents and fans and a hundred cables coming out of the back.

iPad is computer. In a few years will just have ipad or iphone that connects to external display and keyboard and will kick current Mac Pro's a$$. (mostly b/c current Mac Pro was last updated during the real estate bubble).


:rolleyes:
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In a few years, a new Mac Pro would be ridiculously powerful but more powerful than needed. Yeah, the iPad will just become a tablet that can act as a PC eventually. PCs aren't going away, just changing.
 
iChrist said:
iPad is computer. In a few years will just have ipad or iphone that connects to external display and keyboard and will kick current Mac Pro's a$$. (mostly b/c current Mac Pro was last updated during the real estate bubble).
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Um, no.
 
E.Lizardo said:
From reports I've seen on MR,the chips apple plans to use are not ready until later this year.Why is it so hard for you people to understand that?Apple can only release what Intel makes.If they used current Intel chips everyone would say"We waited two years for THIS??Apple is doomed!!!"Supposedly won't be much longer,so take heart!
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You haven't read reports. You have read rumors and speculation, none of which are founded on solid reasoning. With EP variants, chipsets run for 2 generations. This means that if they had something ready for Sandy Bridge E options, much of that work would have transferred to Ivy. There is no reason to leave it. What is more likely is that they shelved the mac pro. In my opinion that has little to do with the long term future of Apple as a whole. "Two years for this" isn't really saying anything. Current hardware generations are a reasonable expectation once options are available.
 
vmachiel said:
Awesome. No matter what people say about iOS being dull or iPhone not innovating enough, the Mac is kicking ass comparing to windows.
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Windows is just that thing you use only if others force you to. I'm amazed by how quickly Mac OS X moves forward.

Mac OS X is really where Apple puts all of its innovation but not where it puts all of its effort to maintain stability. If a Mac or Mac OS has a problem, nobody cares, but the iPhone had better be perfect. Kinda sad because I care about it being the other way around!

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Herrow said:
My Mac Pro 1,1 still kicks ass.....:D
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Nah 3,1 octocore is where it's at.

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bedifferent said:
Um, no.
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You wanna bet? 10 years?

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JM-Prod said:
And with GPU-like computing and next generation Xeon CPU's, a Mac Pro would keep the performance threshold to a next generation mobile device, performing realtime raytracing, multilayered 4k stereo video at 48 fps and sophisticated fluid simulations. Technology development does not stop at the low-end.
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It does once low-end is high enough to make high-end not matter except for on servers.

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lifeinhd said:
Frankly I'm fine with anything that doesn't run iOS, but since you asked....

These days it's mostly about the ability to dump more stuff inside the case. I use an rMBP with 16GB RAM, I do max it out on occasion running VMs and such and if I could use a desktop, I would have a MP with 24GB to avoid that. I also have two network drives, one for storage and the other a Time Capsule, and they are both slow. If I could have an extra couple drives in the case, I totally would. What do I use my machine for? CAD and software development mostly, meaning I'd never fully take advantage of the MP's dozen cores. That's why so many people, myself included, would love to see a midrange headless Mac. Something not too powerful or expensive we can just chuck a few extra parts into.
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That's why I bought a 2008 Mac Pro in 2012. Outdated but still kick-@$$ computer for less than a minimum-spec MacBook Air. Of course, buying used has its disadvantages, but I think this will be the only way considering Apple's path. I'm loving the 4 hard drive bays and ease of service.
 
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Maybe when enough people get brain tumors from iPhone use, we can all go back and use our Macs again? I still love my Macs. I ain't backing up to no cloud, so I need something to back up all my sh%t to. Oh yeah, I need it to run Pro Tools too
 
lifeinhd said:
No.

For the billionth time, some people's needs simply can't be met by an iPad. Hell, some people's needs can't be fully met by a GUI-based OS like OS X. I know I still delve into the terminal from time to time.
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It goes back to Steve's cars vs. trucks analogy. There is no doubt in my mind that the iPad/tablet form factor was the car revolution of personal computing. They have sold like hot cakes and will continue to sell quickly all around the world. Their simplicity and price simply cannot be understated. With that said, the best selling vehicle in the States is still the Ford F-150, a truck. Laptops and desktops will still have their place in society and they will still be developed and maintained, even as future tablets gain more and more power.

Heck my smartphone has more power than computers I owned not even a decade ago, but you don't see me giving it up simply because of some specs.
 
szw-mapple fan said:
The stock has really been shooting up this week.
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Some wall street idiots heard a rumor that Cook will increase the dividend tomorrow. And they saw that the Galaxy S4 was a bust (immediately after the keynote). Suddenly Apple doesn't look so bad, because we've realized that innovation is hard. (for the moment)
 
vmachiel said:
Awesome. No matter what people say about iOS being dull or iPhone not innovating enough, the Mac is kicking ass comparing to windows.
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I would guess the iMacs are still selling, the laptops sales on the other hand will drop off until they add touch.
 
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