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Apple Still Working on 10.4.11

Multimedia said:
For many's sake, I hope they lower the minimum speed limit back down to 800 MHz although the video cards on those systems may be another reason Apple doesn't want to let people run Leopard on them. :confused:
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Apple wants people to buy new machines. Those machines are like 5 years old.
 
Antares said:
Apple should focus on making Leopard bug free instead of wasting time still "fixing" Tiger.
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I hope Apple never develops this attitude.

"What's that? Someone keeps accessing your computer due to a security bug? What OS do you have? OS X 10.4.10 that came on the Mac Pro you bought just 2 weeks ago? No problem, just go out and buy OS X 10.5. It's only another $139. No, we haven't worked out all the bugs yet, but we screwed all you users of 10.4 so we could fix the 10.5 bugs more quickly".
 
Mac OS X Ocelot said:
I don't see how Stacks and Spaces specifically will tax the system more than the other features, or any more than Exposé and Dashboard, among others, already do. I mean, Linux has had spaces for years and Stacks are just like folders in the Dock but prettier. I'm more worried about some of the features in the new Finder as well as all the overall clearness and shininess of the gui.
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I was referring to stacks and spaces just as examples but those are good points as well. I know iTunes starts hogging a lot of resources if I leave it running with Cover Flow enabled...
 
Apple isn't dumb.

Sure there is a group of people who get the OS When it comes out. Then there is a group of people who get it after a couple of update. To get any unknown kinks out of the system. Then There are people who will only upgrade if they get a new system. Keeping the version updated is important because they get a major security problem on their older system there is a chance they will not go back with Macs again.
 
siren77 said:
I was referring to stacks and spaces just as examples but those are good points as well. I know iTunes starts hogging a lot of resources if I leave it running with Cover Flow enabled...
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But that's just pure, unadulterated, eye-candy, of course it's going to be a hog, although it'll still work. I agree to a certain extent stacks could be, but Spaces isn't unless your going to try slow motion effects in it like you can do with Exposé.
 
Here's hoping the next few days will usher in the release date for 10.5 and the release of 10.4.11.

On the day of Leopard's release, (or at least within 3-4 weeks of it, ready for Christmas), Apple announce spec bumps of several of their models.

I've conceded that getting a 24" iMac with an internal Blu Ray drive is far fetched any time soon, (I was planning to buy in the next month), but Sony are now shipping 17" laptops with them for £1299 in the UK. 24" iMac with off shelf spec is £1149. We can't be too far away from some more new features coming, can we?
 
With the iPhone (updates and the iTunes wifi store), OX X 10.5 (I've always wondered why it isn't OS 10.5 or OS X.5), new iPods and all the other junk that's hidden in Apple's labs it's nice to see they've still got time for a .1 update to Tiger.

Salud to Apple's engineers! :)

And who cares about Mac games in this thread?
 
aranhamo said:
Not only that, but Microsoft gets exclusive publishing rights to all of Bungie's properties for several years.
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Not exactly. They just get a first look, which isn't the same thing. MS may not even necessarily want everything Bungie does in the next few years.
 
JFreak said:
Actually, I meant that "a PC that has run VISTA for 6 months will probably be slower than the 1.25GHz iMac running Leopard". Windows PC tends to slow down after few months of use. I took it to the safe side by saying 6 months. Sorry if I didn't articulate myself clearly enough :)
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Microsoft has 5 more updates(2 big ones came out 45 days ago) that should be on automatic update in about 3 weeks (or less) that will have Vista up to 'release' readiness. The worst crashes and corruptions are fixed, and some of the performance 'bugs' are fixed. It even boots faster.

Performance design defects are another story though... and I am eager to see whether it still runs like a dog on many machines, especially low end brand new Dell laptops.
 
rockosmodurnlif said:
...(I've always wondered why it isn't OS 10.5 or OS X.5)...
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Mac OS X is the name of the OS. The "X" (pronounced as "10") doesn't refer to a version, but simply as the successor to Mac OS "Classic" (i.e. "9").
The version number after the "X" is the version.
We have had Mac OS X, version 1.0 (the "Rhapsody" Server version)
Now we're getting Mac OS X version 10.5.

The "10.x" as version numbering simply made it a more logical after Mac OS 9.x than starting the count all over (as they did with the "Rhapsody" versions of Mac OS X 1.0 through 1.2)

TBO it would have been fine with me if 10.0 would have been: Mac OS X 2.0.
Puma (10.1) as Mac OS X 3.0
Jaguar (10.2) as Mac OS X 4.0
Panther (10.3) as Mac OS X 5.0
Tiger (10.4) as Mac OS X 6.0
Leopard (10.5) as Mac OS X 7.0 (cool! System 7!! :D)
 
Multimedia said:
No. The latest word is that message will say "at least 867MHz G4 is needed to proceed."Not if you're running @ 800MHz.Definitely worth installing. I don't believe Leopard will run slower than Tiger on Macs just above the minimum required speed. I believe it will run faster. Just because it has a lot of features doesn't mean it will run slower.
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I believe it will run slower, unless you can name an improvement to memory, kernel, or file system that would improve on Tiger for these low end systems.

Now, on high end systems, such as quad and 8-core, it will be faster.
 
JFreak said:
You do realise that 10.4.10 is unsupported operating system version, don't you? Yes, there is a workaround, but it is just that — a workaround, which is not supported, it may work or on the other hand it may not.
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I'm totally aware on that. However, we just got the Mac Pro (shipped with 10.4.10) and Mbox 2. They work okay, knock on wood.
 
I agree with Antares

JFreak said:
Do you realise how many Tiger users' toes you just stepped on?
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Please Protools just plain sucks these days as digidesign is trying to bleed their customers pockets that use LE, and actually providing little value.

Wow Audio Quantizing, hasn't every major DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) been able to do that years ago.

Logic 8 (Apple) provides the best value, hey i want to go totally logic 8 in the next year, as its superior to protools and provides so much more greater value than the pos :)) ) digidesign puts out.....why should I use HD and pay $10K when I can use logic 8 with apogee converters for under 2K, you got to be kidding me right. Digidesign gots to get a clue.

Who needs another update of tiger? certainly not ME
 
I hope they make a repair for my macbook wifi finder. It is so unreliable since 10.4.10 but works amazing under 10.5. :rolleyes:
 
Amdahl said:
Microsoft has 5 more updates(2 big ones came out 45 days ago) that should be on automatic update in about 3 weeks (or less) that will have Vista up to 'release' readiness. The worst crashes and corruptions are fixed, and some of the performance 'bugs' are fixed. It even boots faster.
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Vaporware.

And should it really take this long to have a shipping OS in a usable state?
 
Amdahl said:
I believe it will run slower, unless you can name an improvement to memory, kernel, or file system that would improve on Tiger for these low end systems.

Now, on high end systems, such as quad and 8-core, it will be faster.
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I don't know, I've talked with a dev who said the original beta ran faster than Tiger on his 450 MHz cube.

looking forward to giving my 500 MHz Ti its final upgrade.
 
Amdahl said:
I believe it will run slower, unless you can name an improvement to memory, kernel, or file system that would improve on Tiger for these low end systems.
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Why wouldn't you expect memory, kernel, and file system improvements? All the previous OS updates had them, and all the previous updates ran a little faster on the same hardware. This is an OS in progress, it continues to be rewritten and optimized further. The slowest machines are often the ones that benefit most from these OS updates, I don't see why this would be any different.
 
It does not seem that leopard is coming on the 26th :mad: but at least tiger will be rock solid. But i really want leopard :(
 
milo said:
Vaporware.

And should it really take this long to have a shipping OS in a usable state?
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Vaporware? No. The fixes are already out, they just aren't on automatic update yet.

And no, Vista should not have shipped in the state it was in.
 
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