Apple Still Working on 10.4.11

[bigandy]

Why not? Halo 1 was ported to Mac, I don't see why Halo 2 and 3 shouldn't also be ported. Especially with Cider and all these days.

Not so much ported, but originally written for Mac OS... I think that's the reason they released it.

In the PC arena, Halo is too much of a money spinner and tie in to Vista for them to turn about and say it can come to Mac OS too. They're being careful to give people as much reason to move to Vista as possible.

 

[wescravn]

Missed its deadline --- SOME DATES (APPROXIAMETLY)

Apple definitely missed their deadline for an October Leopard release, well see it in stores maybe late November. Not sure why, since the os seems pretty stable in the late betas n stuff. I'd rather not have them pull a microsoft and place the updates in a service pack 1 or something (10.5.1-2). So I'm happy their taking their time.

FYI: Protools availability for leopard is 180 days after GR (general release) so that means 2008 (mid probably). Don't know why digidesign can't test on the betas, bt I guess they want to test the final.

Oh well, that's my lowdown.

 

[twoodcc]

we want a release date for leopard. this is good to know that they are working on this, but really, we just want leopard

 

[wozzlewoozle]

i was wondering if Apple was still working on tiger.

but i wonder why the finder version in 10.4.10 still say's 10.4.7 ???

I would guess the versions are not necesarily related. It probably depends on how many updates to finder are made? I'm runing 10.3.9 on my emac, yet finder is 10.3.3

Bring on, 10.4.11 for my powerbook. I probably won't bother with 10.5 for it. However, about to start a new job and they will be buying me a new laptop, so 'cmon Apple announce 10.5 already!

 

[doemel]

That's what I thought. Must of been thinking about something else.

Are you sure?

 

[anthonyb]

Oct 26th


Believe.

 

[Genghis Khan]

how much of a sacrifice to the OS will apple have to make to get it out october 31st? as in how big will 10.5.1 be

 

[JFreak]

Since Tiger is the last version for many capable Mac's, i wonder how long it will take for People/company's to start dropping support (like 10.2 10.3 is)??? i do hope tiger dont loose support from 3rd party developers any time soon.

Generally speaking 10.3.9 is almost as compatible as Tiger. Apple made a "compatibility release" to Panther so it has been very forward-compatible. I know lots of people currently using Panther, because Tiger didn't bring them anything worth the upgrade price. If you can remember the hassle after 10.3.4 (the most stable Panther version) you can probably count 1+1=2 when you think about Tiger troubles after 10.4.8 (the most stable Tiger version). There will be a great compatibility release for Tiger as well.

The reason why Jaguar is not supported is that Panther introduced lots of under-the-hood improvements that developers are now using everywhere.

 

[Roller]

Meh. Tiger is history.

Meh to your "meh"....

I'm looking forward to Leopard as much as the next guy, but I also have Macs that never will run it. Plus, I may decide to wait a month or so for the dust to settle before installing Leopard on my newer Macs. So continued development on Tiger is good news.

 

[Sandfleaz]

I guess the moral of the story is that an OS is never completely done (kind of like my home improvement projects).

 

[JFreak]

FYI: Protools availability for leopard is 180 days after GR (general release) so that means 2008 (mid probably).

Good guess.

I'm a Protools beta tester and I can assure you there is no 180-day rule. Support will come once the software is fully tested on such version general public can buy and use. It might be sooner, it might be later, it will be whenever it's ready. Digidesign has a very large beta group and strict quality control. They will not support something that will get their hands full of it.

Why do you think it has taken so long to support Vista, for example? It was released 11 months ago for volume licensing customers and 9 months ago to retail. Protools supports it once the 7.4 is out to general public next month. That's not "180 days" and 7.4 release date has not been postponed.

Don't know why digidesign can't test on the betas, bt I guess they want to test the final.

They surely do alpha testing in-house, but beta testers may or may not have access to other beta builds, so therefore beta testing is always done on released software. And it takes time.

 

[WildPalms]

Glad to see they're trying to patch the last few things up before moving on.



That's what I thought. Must of been thinking about something else.

FFS dude, Must have! Must have! Not of...

 

[gnasher729]

Since Tiger is the last version for many capable Mac's, i wonder how long it will take for People/company's to start dropping support (like 10.2 10.3 is)???

Last week or so I had to boot one machine into 10.3, and there were software updates for it. So Apple will still do at least security updates for 10.3.

 

[gnasher729]

For many's sake, I hope they lower the minimum speed limit back down to 800 MHz although the video cards on those systems may be another reason Apple doesn't want to let people run Leopard on them.

If you have any machine that can be booted as a Firewire disk, you should be able to install Leopard without any problems, you just have to borrow another machine to do the install. I'm just guessing, but I don't think Leopard would check for the speed once it has been installed. Someone will likely try that within two hours of Leopard being released and post it here

 

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

Would it be worth it to install Leopard on my 1.25GHz G4 iMac? Even if it meets the requirements, probably just barely, would it suffer from all the bells and whistles (that I love, by the way) that it just wouldn't be worth it? I'm really looking forward to Stacks and the new Finder.

 

[JFreak]

Would it be worth it to install Leopard on my 1.25GHz G4 iMac? Even if it meets the requirements, probably just barely, would it suffer from all the bells and whistles (that I love, by the way) that it just wouldn't be worth it? I'm really looking forward to Stacks and the new Finder.

It cannot be slower than a 6-month-old PC running VISTA

 

[samh004]

FFS dude, Must have! Must have! Not of...

LOL, took you long enough and you were beaten to the punch anyway.

 

[andrewag]

10.4.11 - the ULTIMATE tiger.

I manage around 200 macs at work, from some older indigo imacs, through emacs, g5 imacs and now intel based imacs. The older machines i would not look at upgrading to 10.5 (the costs alone are a killer) let alone the tax on the system that leopard will have (when compared to tiger). I'm pleased that Apple will update tiger at least one more time.

I hope Safari 3 is downloadable for Tiger (although I doubt it).

 

[JFreak]

I hope Safari 3 is downloadable for Tiger (although I doubt it).

Why wouldn't it be? It's a public beta. Surely it will cost nothing for Windows people and if they're getting it free then we loyal customers will most definetely get it free also. It is already working fine in Tiger so there is absolutely no reason why it suddenly would require Leopard.

 

[shyataroo]

It cannot be slower than a 6-month-old PC running VISTA

had you said it when vista was released that would have been remotley accurate, however vista was released over 6 months ago. Ergo, a 6 month old PC should easily be able to handle vista, (unless of course the PC is new but uses old parts)

Vista is the result of saying: "hey apple your operating system is pretty, can we copy it?" Apple of course thinks imatation is the sincerest form of flattery so of course they allow it.

 

[FJ218700]

If you have any machine that can be booted as a Firewire disk, you should be able to install Leopard without any problems, you just have to borrow another machine to do the install. I'm just guessing, but I don't think Leopard would check for the speed once it has been installed. Someone will likely try that within two hours of Leopard being released and post it here

I'll let you know if it runs on a 500 MHz Ti

 

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

had you said it when vista was released that would have been remotley accurate, however vista was released over 6 months ago. Ergo, a 6 month old PC should easily be able to handle vista, (unless of course the PC is new but uses old parts)

Vista is the result of saying: "hey apple your operating system is pretty, can we copy it?" Apple of course thinks imatation is the sincerest form of flattery so of course they allow it.

So should one install Leopard on their 1.25GHZ iMac or not? And your sig is disgusting.

 

[JFreak]

had you said it when vista was released that would have been remotley accurate, however vista was released over 6 months ago. Ergo, a 6 month old PC should easily be able to handle vista

Actually, I meant that "a PC that has run VISTA for 6 months will probably be slower than the 1.25GHz iMac running Leopard". Windows PC tends to slow down after few months of use. I took it to the safe side by saying 6 months. Sorry if I didn't articulate myself clearly enough

 

[siren77]

Just wondering, what's the difference between a Release Candidate and Gold Master? Does Gold Master mean it's pretty much finalized and only needs to be packaged?

 

[JFreak]

Just wondering, what's the difference between a Release Candidate and Gold Master? Does Gold Master mean it's pretty much finalized and only needs to be packaged?

RC is one of the builds that can be declared a GM, whereas GM is *the* build that goes to production.