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Steve Jobs is Depression-proof

These bankers are just mad they can't get their fangs in. iPod's could be the new currency!
 
How much money did jobs lose today? Serves him right for not updating the laptops....lol jks.
 
It does create a nice buying opportunity, but I'm not sure we've hit the bottom yet.

Apple's fall is the market's fall, nothing else.

The U.S. financial system is a joke, and only now countries around the world are realizing it, given the U.S. gigantic deficit financed through other countries and the fact that trust in the dollar is gonna vaporize in a not so far future...so yep, you may expect a lot more tumbles to come unless Apple almost completely shifts its sales to foreign markets; this is just the beginning.
 
with this obvious economic collapse we're headed towards, people are not going to have the money to buy iPods with their maxed out credit cards anymore. Perhaps this particular sell off is excessive for one day, but people should be wise to see that the last thing people are thinking about is buying electronic crap when they have just been laid off or who's savings are in the tank. Apple is going to suffer like the rest of companies who make their money on people's disposable income (or credit).

Exactly...the whole economy is going in the tank. Keep it in perspective people.
 
Apple's fall is the market's fall, nothing else.

The U.S. financial system is a joke, and only now countries around the world are realizing it, given the U.S. gigantic deficit financed through other countries and the fact that trust in the dollar is gonna vaporize in a not so far future...so yep, you may expect a lot more tumbles to come unless Apple almost completely shifts its sales to foreign markets; this is just the beginning.

Um, I wouldn't go that far. The world market is in crisis, and it's not just because of the Dollar and the US financial collapse. There are bad lending practices everywhere, in the UK they just had to nationalize two major banks, and in Belgium/Netherlands another. Tough times all over.
 
Indeed, Apple had hinted at possible margin erosion in their [URL="https://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/21/apple-announces-1-07-billion-in-profit-for-q3-2008/">last quarterly conference call[/URL]. Tomorrow is the last day of the fourth fiscal quarter of 2008.

Mmmm tomorow looks like a good day for apple to release a brand new sub-notebook, new MB's and MBP's at half the current price. That would be great:D
 
Um, I wouldn't go that far. The world market is in crisis, and it's not just because of the Dollar and the US financial collapse. There are bad lending practices everywhere, in the UK they just had to nationalize two major banks, and in Belgium/Netherlands another. Tough times all over.

Not true. You are talking here about the CONSEQUENCES of relying on rotten U.S. stocks and assets. All European banks suffering now happen to be in such a situation because of excessive exposure to the U.S. market.

In Brazil, for instance, apart from a couple of companies that had made the wrong bets on derivatives, no bank has suffered any effect yet, simply because their exposure is close to zero to derivatives and the subprime market. The same applies to many emerging and developed markets around the world...see the case for UBS and Credit Suisse in Switzerland, for instance...one is almost bankrupt because of its crazy dependence on U.S. assets, while the other is just fine.
 
PC OEMs need to sell the latest, greatest parts for the smallest margins possible because they have no other way of differentiating themselves. Apple has other ways of differentiating themselves (with the notable exception of Sony, who can sell their VAIO range at a premium thanks to their industrial design expertise).

You do realise that regardless of the economic downturn, Apple will ship more Macs this year than any other year in their 32 year history? You do also realise that for every $3 spent on Laptops in the US, $1 went to Apple?. This fact is on the MacRumors front page.

So it doesn't matter whether you think “most of the public” won't buy Macs or Apple is “not with the program”, because your opinions are so frightfully out of touch with reality it is alarming.
 
The DOW is currently down 6%. NASDAQ and S&P are down 8%. AAPL is down over 15%. So AAPL is still having a disproportionately bad day.

Odd, isn't it?

The company which is doing disproportionally well in the real world is doing disproportionally badly on Wall St.

If Apple's sales this quarter turn out as rosy as originally predicted, how will the market react? Indifference? Continue to slide, just because.. ?
 
Luckily, my interest in the stock market is in the long term, not the short term... And my interest in Apple is in the products, not the stocks :) Apple has the cash to keep up R&D, so I'm not worried about each up and down.
 
Odd, isn't it?

The company which is doing disproportionally well in the real world is doing disproportionally badly on Wall St.

If Apple's sales this quarter turn out as rosy as originally predicted, how will the market react? Indifference? Continue to slide, just because.. ?

It's not the current quarter that the market is concerned with. It's future quarters and the ability of Apple to move their products. Consumers are going to clamp down on spending. The holiday buying season isn't going to be good!

The market is pricing in expectations. A way for Apple to alleviate this carnage would be to sacrifice margins in order to move product. They way to do this is to cut prices. How likely is this? Who knows.
 
It's not the current quarter that the market is concerned with. It's future quarters and the ability of Apple to move their products. Consumers are going to clamp down on spending. The holiday buying season isn't going to be good!

The market is pricing in expectations. A way for Apple to alleviate this carnage would be to sacrifice margins in order to move product. They way to do this is to cut prices. How likely is this? Who knows.

That is exactly what Peter Oppenheimer said Apple was going to do this quarter.;)
 
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Apple has money in the bank and though there is less consumer electronics spending it will be short lived. By Apple stock while it is hot.
 
Not true. You are talking here about the CONSEQUENCES of relying on rotten U.S. stocks and assets. All European banks suffering now happen to be in such a situation because of excessive exposure to the U.S. market.

In Brazil, for instance, apart from a couple of companies that had made the wrong bets on derivatives, no bank has suffered any effect yet, simply because their exposure is close to zero to derivatives and the subprime market. The same applies to many emerging and developed markets around the world...see the case for UBS and Credit Suisse in Switzerland, for instance...one is almost bankrupt because of its crazy dependence on U.S. assets, while the other is just fine.

Great post. The man isn't lying!
 
It's not the current quarter that the market is concerned with. It's future quarters and the ability of Apple to move their products. Consumers are going to clamp down on spending. The holiday buying season isn't going to be good!

The market is pricing in expectations. A way for Apple to alleviate this carnage would be to sacrifice margins in order to move product. They way to do this is to cut prices. How likely is this? Who knows.

Fair points.

Still, isn't it odd that they're basing they're basing this downgrading of the stock on sales in the Q1 '09 of Apple's Q4 '08 lineup??

It seems to me they're needlessly negative, looking at just half the picture. Apple have among the highest margins in the industry and a mountain of cash, meaning (I would assume) they are uniquely capable of dropping prices to adjust to the economic environment. And if they drop prices, they'll be seen as better value than offerings from other PC firms who can't reduce prices much further?

Not to mention the way they dismiss the mini is a bit odd. It's a sub $1,000 Mac, any way you slice it.
 
wow sucks to be an investor right now... look at google stock... went down almost a whopping 40 bucks right now...
 
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