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Great, so now you have to unfold your phone it to check your notifications? What's next, screens on the the front and back as well?

I swear, Apple is becoming more user hostile.. as if iOS 26's UI wasn't bad enough.
If you think you have to unfold a foldable to check your notifications, you've clearly never seen a foldable in your life.
 
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Touch ID isn’t as good though. I often need to enter the code on my iPhone SE and on my MacBook as well because there were multiple failed unlocks in a row. It’s enough if my hands aren’t perfectly dry after I just washed them and there is a bit of moisture left. But if they aren’t perfectly clean when I’m doing yard work it will fail every single time as well. So to me Touch ID is borderline unusable on an iPhone I use when I’m out and about. If they leave Face ID in however I wouldn’t mind an additional biometric sensor.

It shouldn't be instead of, it should be as well as. 95% of the time it'll be Face ID, all the times i've needed to unlock when Face ID didn't work - my hands were dry.
 
It shouldn't be instead of, it should be as well as.
That's fair. I wanted to say that it would be even more expensive but frankly at a $1,999 price point they might as well give us both. Just sat down at my desk a minute ago and unlocking my Macbook made the password box shake multiple times as I put my dry and clean finger on the sensor multiple times. It did unlock on the final attempt but at this point the reliability of Touch ID has become a joke to me. If Face ID didn't unlock 3 out of 4 times for absolutely no reason people would consider it to be faulty.
 
That's fair. I wanted to say that it would be even more expensive but frankly at a $1,999 price point they might as well give us both. Just sat down at my desk a minute ago and unlocking my Macbook made the password box shake multiple times as I put my dry and clean finger on the sensor multiple times. It did unlock on the final attempt but at this point the reliability of Touch ID has become a joke to me. If Face ID didn't unlock 3 out of 4 times for absolutely no reason people would consider it to be faulty.

That's strange, i'll be honest I don't have any issues with the Touch ID on my MBA, nor the iPad mini, but on the phone it could get annoying as your hands were often not in the perfection condition for it.
 
We will see. But every indicator shows it is going to flop. Price, use cases, points of failure etc. Even the competition struggles to gain market share. What is it? Like 2% market share after 6 years. Thats bad. It will have the same fate as the VP.
Oh. So it wasn’t intentional? 😬

I agree it is going to be a flop. My point is that saying something will “sell less the the mini, plus and air combined” is nonsensical (and not just because of the typos) because combining the sales of those three products is a pretty significant number. So selling less than that would be a success. I get that what you meant was that it will do worse than any of those.
 
It will have to do much worse than other models because of how well the iPhone and iPhone Pro are selling. They need to charge significantly more to make up for it as production costs are lower the more you produce. Additionally, if the Fold is priced closer to the Pro Max it’s not going to increase profits which obviously is the point of spending money on researching a foldable. If a customer chooses a Fold over the Pro Max it better not be a wash which one amounts to more profits.

There is value in establishing the iPhone Fold as the most premium flagship and status symbol but not that many customers care to spend upwards of 2k on a phone. I have a Pro merely because it was what I needed at the time and it’s merely a tool for me to do my work.

So the question is who is going to want to spend significantly more on the iPhone Fold over the iPhone 18 Pro Max? And how many of those customers are there? I think Apple will price this as expensively as they can to establish a new flagship price point. For customers that are “merely” spending a grand or so Apple already has iPhones that sell very well.
 
Wider than an iPhone Max when folded, and smaller than an iPad mini when open? It sounds like the worst of both worlds.
you aren't factoring in aspect ratio. it will be alot wider than pro max so content wise it will be a great front display and when opened will basically be like using an ipad mini. screen size will basically be 7.8 inch compred to 8.3 and due to the ratio won't be much difference
 
That's strange, i'll be honest I don't have any issues with the Touch ID on my MBA, nor the iPad mini, but on the phone it could get annoying as your hands were often not in the perfection condition for it.
i doubt they would put it at the top. if they put it at the side like other foldables do it may be better than face ID as you can open it on a table or sofa which currently you can't do with face ID
 
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