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Maybe, but switching costs likely means most will stick with Apple and pay the price. I suspect many price conscious buyers are already gone.
That's on what EU is working, to reduce the cost to leave an ecosystem... I look forward to have replaceable batteries, not only on phones but on laptops too :)
 
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Wow - thanks to Farage, Hannan, Gove, Johnson et al we still get to buy Lightning charging iPhones for just a little bit longer in England, Wales, and Scotland. This is what Taking Back Control is all about. YEAH!
Serious question. Are you serious?
 
All this time I thought my 3rd generation se was usbc cord, but I guess after reading this maybe not? But im in america not europe.
 
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That's on what EU is working, to reduce the cost to leave an ecosystem...

It doesn't really address the main switching costs - programs and data portablity.

I look forward to have replaceable batteries, not only on phones but on laptops too :)

It will be interetsing to see how that plays out - in terms of what is "easy" and what a replacement battery costs. Manufacturers could design batteries to be replaced as a unit by simply removing a backplate, as in the past, but incoporate various electronics in the backplate so a 3rd party could not easily replicate it. In theory, a MagSafe style, battery pack design would qualify, or some other wireless design. Maybe that's the future - wireless battery packs and no internal battery.
 
That's on what EU is working, to reduce the cost to leave an ecosystem... I look forward to have replaceable batteries, not only on phones but on laptops too :)

You might still have removable batteries today if it hadn't been for the EU Ecodesign Directive in 2009 and EU energy efficiency regulations, which had the effect of leading manufacturers to glue batteries into electronic devices to comply with rules aimed at improving energy efficiency and device compactness. There are always unintended consequences when politicians mandate engineering designs. In tech, they usually hurt the consumer. And then the company gets blamed.
 
That's on what EU is working, to reduce the cost to leave an ecosystem... I look forward to have replaceable batteries, not only on phones but on laptops too :)
It will be interetsing to see how that plays out - in terms of what is "easy" and what a replacement battery costs. Manufacturers could design batteries to be replaced as a unit by simply removing a backplate, as in the past, but incoporate various electronics in the backplate so a 3rd party could not easily replicate it. In theory, a MagSafe style, battery pack design would qualify, or some other wireless design. Maybe that's the future - wireless battery packs and no internal battery.

Also opens the door for reduced battery capacity (because the door, and case around the battery take up space the cells could occupy, so does the user friendly connector), and less incentive for manufacturers to use higher capacity / more expensive chemistry. That combination will likely also lead to more E-Waste and likely require people to replace batteries more often.

I 100% do not want to go back to needing 1 or 2 battery replacements per year on my phones like in the old feature / flip phone days.

My 2008 MBP had the battery replaced 3 times before I upgraded to a 2015 unibody. That Unibody battery started showing warnings 2 years ago, and is only now at the point where it needs to be replaced. With that, the battery is 100% replaceable (Just like iPhones), but requries a bit of skill and time to do so.
 
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Yep, remove a camera and sell the old tech for a starting price of € 499,-

With love from Timmy

What did you expect? That is the whole point of SE - old tech for a lower price. Actually, it is also meant to feature Apple’s first 5G modem, so should be quite fun.
 
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That’s after the world mobile convention in Barcelona. Where they’ll showcase new mobile phones. I understand Apple doesn’t showcase their products there. People might compare and Apple with their offerings will be the joke of the convention.

Not a biggie, as Apple have never participated in the Mobile World Congress.
 
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I’m sure there’s a warehouse full of these somewhere in Europe, I’m assuming they’ll ship these back to America and reinstall the US version of iOS and there should be a fire sale of iPhone 14 devices. :rolleyes:

Very similar to iPad ninth generation, retailers are still coming out their ears with them and are still pushing them for $199, I’m waiting for that to drop to about $149 soon.
 
I’m sure there’s a warehouse full of these somewhere in Europe, I’m assuming they’ll ship these back to America and reinstall the US version of iOS and there should be a fire sale of iPhone 14 devices.

I suspect the EU would allow Apple to continue selling warehouse stock until they are all gone; and given Apple's supply chain focus already reduced the supply to the bare minimum based on expected sales. They could simply convert any unsold devices to warranty replacements if needed.
 
I’m surprised Apple got to the point of having to remove the SE from sale before the new USB-C model is available.

This law isn’t a surprise and there’s been plenty of time to plan for it.
Apple most certainly prefers selling iPhones 16 over any SE.

-Launching a new SE too close to the flagship mid-tier and Pro would see one too many buyers opting to save money and go with an SE over the more expensive options.

Apple would have preferred to keep SE 3 and iPhone 14 in the lineup until SE 4 launches, obviously.

But it’s better to have no budget options than to kill 15, 16 and 16 Pro sales by launching an SE 4 six months too soon.
 
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I'm confused, iPhone 14 still shows as available to buy in Spain and France's websites
 
I suspect the EU would allow Apple to continue selling warehouse stock until they are all gone; and given Apple's supply chain focus already reduced the supply to the bare minimum based on expected sales. They could simply convert any unsold devices to warranty replacements if needed.
All EU retailers and manufacturers can sell remaining stock until it’s gone.

Apple just can’t make new Lightning devices and sell them within the EU after the deadline. That would lead to hefty fines.

But from what I can tell, the bulk of EU iPhone buyers have caught on to the shift over to USB-C and won’t buy Lightning iPhones despite exceptional discounts.

Same goes for Lighting iPads (iPad 9 has been on sale for the last two years where I live).

I’d assume Apple was seeing very little traction on their EU websites for Lightning iPhones as EU retailers are and chose to pull them.
 

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this is kind of a useless regulation... we all have lightning cables if we were using apple products. replacing this stuff with usb-c does nothing for reducing e-waste - it simply creates it. btw, i used to be for usb-c (more for the speed than anything else, which theoretically could also be improved in lightning) but I have changed my tune on this one, simply for the fact that the lightning port is way, way, way more robust connector for a portable device getting daily wear.

i have never had one go bad on a ton of my items (and family and friends, too), but have already experienced usb-c failing, even on a high quality port like my macbook pro. it has gotten very loose (and I am careful, but use this thing daily) and I have suffered a complete port failure on a different manufacturers speaker and charger. unfortunately, this is not uncommon. you can simply look at the physical connector and its tiny center tab and see it cannot be as resilient of a design.

Let's not even get into the mess that is the usb-c cable! if you know, you know.

quite frankly i wish they would have made mag-safe the standard (like the charging connector on a mac, but adding data as well) for apple devices and skipped a hard connection.
 
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Have all the airports and hotels and automobiles retrofitted with USB-C instead of USB-A. The Ioniq 5 still had the USB-A. Why is it fair to only control devices and not the other end.
 
Europe is only a couple of months ahead of ROW. When iPhone SE 4 will launch both iPhone SE 3 and iPhone 14 will be removed from Apple Store. Everywhere. Maybe just refurbished will be available
 
Those iPhones (models sold in EU) have a SIM slot
I would like to see them sold in the US I don’t care about usb-c I have plenty of lightning cables
 
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