So directly or indirectly it’s a safety issue...I don't think it's a safety issue, thats probably what got the big retailers out and Apple follwoing suit. And the big retailers are having lots of problems with Amazon
You might be talking about The NorvaIve been there quite a few times during 2006-2010 while in the Navy and it seemed pretty nice then. There was a concert venue right close to it and would hang in the mall a lil before the concert would start. Can't remember the name of it though.
Yeah Agreed - Was there for the first Day still have the T-Shirt! BummedMan, this is a real bummer. I helped open this store back in 2006 and worked there as a genius for a while. It's a shame...use to be a really nice place.
With just one Apple Store in all of Hampton Roads it is going to be impossible to get appointments in the store. At Lynnhaven you usually can get something in a day or two, but at MacArthur it was always days out. I hope they can come up with another plan to serve this area...but frankly, I'm not sure where they would go.
Wow, I wonder what it is about that mall that attracts crazy people.
Either way, I'm glad they're not laying off the employees. Hopefully they can all accept the alternatives Apple provides.
EDIT: Wow, I looked it up on Google Maps and it doesn't even seem to be a bad area. Downtown, by the river, looks nice. What's the deal?
Doesn't make any difference were it is, if gangs or flash mobs decide this is the place, it's going to happen. I've seen this sort of thing in other places. Really expensive areas become gangland shooting galleries overnight, literally overnight. So quickly, everyone is dumfounded. It will also continue until they are forced out, which has to happen. But these days, who knows. I think the rule is, if you see groups of kids that look like they aren't shopping, then there's some concern you may end up collateral. God bless America.
Absolutely, I agree, you even got downvotes on that don’t know why... it’s perfectly fine to judge, I can guarantee it has saved my life and probably many of us too. I judge the speed of a car coming towards me, I judge a dark corner or alley or weird spot in a dangerous city (I come from one of the most insecure cities in the world), I judge someone seemingly impaired behind the wheel or with a blunt object and/or with an aggressive attitude and go far away from that... was I wrong? Maybe, but I would rather be wrong at misjudging and have infinite chances at that than being wrong once the other way around and it’s game over.It’s true. I don’t think people should profile for the wrong reasons, but there is a good reason why we do it, and it’s for our own safety. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Wow, I wonder what it is about that mall that attracts crazy people.![]()
There's nothing more terrifying than a giant elaborate dance number breaking out unexpectedly.Doesn't make any difference were it is, if gangs or flash mobs decide this is the place, it's going to happen.
Williamsburg is halfway between VA beach and the short pump store. Honestly, that outlet mall would be a good location, but people would be expecting outlet prices.Man, this is a real bummer. I helped open this store back in 2006 and worked there as a genius for a while. It's a shame...use to be a really nice place.
With just one Apple Store in all of Hampton Roads it is going to be impossible to get appointments in the store. At Lynnhaven you usually can get something in a day or two, but at MacArthur it was always days out. I hope they can come up with another plan to serve this area...but frankly, I'm not sure where they would go
...I think the rule is, if you see groups of kids that look like they aren't shopping, then there's some concern you may end up collateral. God bless America.
The entire MacArthur Mall is shutting down due to financial reasons. Every tenant has been advised in writing that no leases will be renewed. This has been ongoing for 18 months. Poor reporting here blaming “incidents” without doing some basic journalistic fact checking.
The property IS managed by JLL which saw a sharp drop in leasing revenues in 2020 and “are overall much more optimistic for the capital markets outlook than we are for the leasing outlook.” Sounds like divestiture and a restructuring of their exposure to me. BUT, I’d have to do WAY more looking than the 5 minutes that took. I’m no journalist.Let's close this feedback loop. What financial reasons are causing MacArthur Mall to shut down? Could it be.... maybe.... gang violence dissuading customers from visiting the stores? 🤔
This was my experience late last year. I wanted an Apple Silicon MacBook, but the local Apple Stores didn't have any in stock. A local Best Buy did, so I went there.Today, I went to Best Buy and inside they have a pop up Apple store section with all the Apple products you would find in your average Apple store. Biggest benefit, I could play with all the products and not have to schedule a ridiculous appointment and only get a few minutes.
And when they crank out the music from their Flash Drives... look out!There's nothing more terrifying than a giant elaborate dance number breaking out unexpectedly.
I used to live in Spartanburg, and I also went to a Greenville mall. There had a gaming store (none in Spartanburg) that I liked to patronize. Forget the name of the store, I moved to Ohio in 1997.Around 2010, I got to be part of the original employees that opened the Apple Store in Greenville, SC. Mall is super good in a good town. Where I live, 45 min away
As someone who just moved from Southside to the Peninsula, I hope somewhere in Newport News. Like City Center.Man, this is a real bummer. I helped open this store back in 2006 and worked there as a genius for a while. It's a shame...use to be a really nice place.
With just one Apple Store in all of Hampton Roads it is going to be impossible to get appointments in the store. At Lynnhaven you usually can get something in a day or two, but at MacArthur it was always days out. I hope they can come up with another plan to serve this area...but frankly, I'm not sure where they would go.
You don’t live in the area do you? People weren’t spending money in these stores before these incidents. As has been stated several times in this thread, retailers already. It’s also been shared within this thread that the owner has been informing tenants for for some time now that leases would not be renewed.Let's close this feedback loop. What financial reasons are causing MacArthur Mall to shut down? Could it be.... maybe.... gang violence dissuading customers from visiting the stores? 🤔
By the end of 2019, the mall’s owner, Starwood Property Trust, had defaulted on a $750 million loan it sought in 2014 that used MacArthur and three other malls as collateral. An appraisal at the time valued all four at $1.07 billion, according to information from Trepp LLC, which tracks commercial real estate and securitized mortgages. As of December 2019, a new appraisal pinned their value at $366.7 million. By the time the loan came due, Starwood still owed more than $680 million. Wells Fargo was installed as a special servicer on the loan and Jones Lang LaSalle was brought in to manage the mall.
Absolutely right. Not to mention that there have been no "active" shooters at the center, let alone "several" of them. "Active shooter" has a specific meaning and what has happened at MacArthur (which is no different than a thousand other places unfortunately) doesn't come close. To put a wild guess in a "news" story is a disgrace, but it is what passes for journalism everywhere these days. Hence we live in an age where all the information in the world is at everyone's fingertips, yet we live in the most uninformed and easily misled society imaginable.The entire MacArthur Mall is shutting down due to financial reasons. Every tenant has been advised in writing that no leases will be renewed. This has been ongoing for 18 months. Poor reporting here blaming “incidents” without doing some basic journalistic fact checking.
Shopping centers have been dying EVERYWHERE, particularly the last 5 years. It is called "online shopping." While there are still more purchases made in-store than online, the shear number of freestanding shopping locations (and the rise of mega retailers) is putting location after location out of business. There are too many brick & mortar retailers for the number of people who shop these days. Throw in Covid and it is even worse.Let's close this feedback loop. What financial reasons are causing MacArthur Mall to shut down? Could it be.... maybe.... gang violence dissuading customers from visiting the stores? 🤔
Or, could it be a years-long battle between online retailers and much more expensive brick-and-mortar stores? Or could it be a year long shutdown due to COVID? Malls across the country are struggling to stay alive. It's not a secret, unless you just aren't paying attention.Let's close this feedback loop. What financial reasons are causing MacArthur Mall to shut down? Could it be.... maybe.... gang violence dissuading customers from visiting the stores? 🤔