9/11 was an inside job.
Please tell me you're kidding with this
9/11 was an inside job.
Look at some of the people you put in Guantanamo Bay without any trial. Over 20 years for some.
I guess homophobia isn’t restricted to places like Saudi. The fact that people don’t even realise they are homophobic is part of the problem.That would give some headlines. Timmy arrested on a public restroom 🤭🤣😂🤣
Yeah. I guess the question you need to ask is are people hypocrites? What I am seeing is yes. Look in your own backyard before you criticise others unless you think your country is perfect in these areas…I can’t even believe we have people stanning for Saudi Arabia and their horrendous human rights violations
Have we really fallen this far?
No, of course not. But in this case for sure. It's pathetic the way they treat women. Their violations of human rights is egregious. Their corrupt government is without excuse. The US only sides with them because Iran is worse.Respecting your culture and heritage does not mean you are a "snowflake".
The US also treat women badly. They treat people badly because of the colour of their skin ffs. They side with them for oil/money. The US desire for human rights is as bad as any country and often worse.No, of course not. But in this case for sure. It's pathetic the way they treat women. Their violations of human rights is egregious. Their corrupt government is without excuse. The US only sides with them because Iran is worse.
Let’s see, casualties in an active war zone where terrorists reside (that isn’t even our battle) vs inviting a reporter into a restaurant and chopping him to bits then censoring movies that talk about it lolHow is "chopping up a reporter" somehow worse than killing babies and children by the masses? Do Americans/Westerners have some sort of mental block in their head?
Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the US is bad, but Saudi Arabia is exponentially worse. Last time I looked, women were allowed to drive here. And run for president.The US also treat women badly. They treat people badly because of the colour of their skin ffs. They side with them for oil/money. The US desire for human rights is as bad as any country and often worse.
I refuse to travel to Saudi because if the way they treat their women. I refuse to travel to the US because the way they treat people generally.
I am not defending what goes on in Saudi, but let's not spread misinformation. The driving ban for women was lifted in 2018.Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the US is bad, but Saudi Arabia is exponentially worse. Last time I looked, women were allowed to drive here. And run for president.
I don’t know what I’m talking about? I’m just shaking my head at your comments.Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the US is bad, but Saudi Arabia is exponentially worse. Last time I looked, women were allowed to drive here. And run for president.
I check, and you're right. June 24th of that year. Good to know.I am not defending what goes on in Saudi, but let's not spread misinformation. The driving ban for women was lifted in 2018.
Apology accepted.I check, and you're right. June 24th of that year. Good to know.
When's the last time the US chopped up a reporter for writing against them or gay person just for being?
I can’t even believe I’m about to (somewhat) defend the USA in a public forum, but here we go.I don’t know what I’m talking about? I’m just shaking my head at your comments.
To address both of your points
1. Women have been able to drive since 2018….
2. Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy and doesn’t have a president.
10 out of the G20 countries have had women leaders. USA are missing from that list and are directly alongside Saudi
As Expos has said. I’m not a fan of Saudi and would never go there for that reason, but don’t hold your standards above them because the U.S. fail in more moral areas than Saudi do. Who the hell has national groups led by Grand Wizards?
Like all wars, it was for money, and a disgrace. My country was a part of that as well, I’m ashamed to admit.have you heard of the American Iraq war that lasted about 9 years where an estimated 1 million iraqies died because they thought Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction but they found none?
You're talking about 1 or 2 main things cherry picked as a moral divide based on ideology. Versus the thousands (as you said) for the U.S. I agree those things are pretty big (for me, morally), but let’s not pretend the U.S. are actually better. This is about a difference, morally, which by definition is subjective.I can’t even believe I’m about to (somewhat) defend the USA in a public forum, but here we go.
No, they’re not perfect, they have thousands of things to fix, but compared to the Saudi? Come on, it’s not even a contest.
Wow a war vs killing a domestic reporter. Classic comparisonhave you heard of the American Iraq war that lasted about 9 years where an estimated 1 million iraqies died because they thought Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction but they found none?
Alcohol is a weapon of mass destruction that targets genes(future generations) and therefore is much more dangerous than guns.No mention of alcohol.