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Apple Store in Dallas Robbed...Knox Street
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Looks pretty simple to me...
The iPhones were right by the doors by the looks of things. 4 guys grabbing 2 phones each would make it even easier
Hope these idiots turn them off or cook the IMEI (highly illegal) before they get a ping on ATTs network. Apple won't track down "our" stolen/lost hardware, but they wont tolerate theft of trackable apple-owned hardware lol.
By just...running away? Seriously, if there's no one at the door to stop them, well, there they go. Maybe this store didn't have guards, or their attention was elsewhere at the time. But police won't show up for at least several minutes (on a good day); plenty of time to get to a waiting car and disappear into midday traffic.
creeman said:
Really?
Crime happens anytime, anywhere. Doesn't matter what neighborhood you live in, or how safe you think it is. We just had an armed jewelry heist in downtown Ann Arbor, which is considered very safe by most standards. No one was injured, but it occurred in the middle of the day, on Main Street, which in this city is extremely busy and has high foot & vehicle traffic. At least 5 suspects, 2 are still at large. http://www.annarbor.com/news/four-m...investigation-continues-ann-arbor-police-say/
Point being, don't get complacent - pay attention to what's going on around you, and be safe.
The phones are almost useless. They do not have replaceable sim cards, if the people tried to set them up for themselves they wouldnt be able to because the sim is looked to a demo account. Also they have mobileme on them and can be tracked. They are special demo models. Also Apple employees can be fired for chasing people out of the store during a theft due to the chance of bodily harm. They have internal Loss prevention teams that are authorized to take action.
Easy money =P
And I think you'll all find all the big retail businesses will tell their employees when training, that in any case of a robbery, you always stand back and do anything they ask. Cooperation is the key to nobody getting hurt. Sure, it sucks for the business to loose those assets, but in the case of the Apple store, they'd get them at cost, which means they'd only have lost maybe $1000, which would be covered by their insurance anyway.
If you think about it from the point of view of an Apple employee, there is no benefit of them trying to stop the burglars.
And I think you'll all find all the big retail businesses will tell their employees when training, that in any case of a robbery, you always stand back and do anything they ask. Cooperation is the key to nobody getting hurt. Sure, it sucks for the business to loose those assets, but in the case of the Apple store, they'd get them at cost, which means they'd only have lost maybe $1000, which would be covered by their insurance anyway.
If you think about it from the point of view of an Apple employee, there is no benefit of them trying to stop the burglars.
What about Mobile Me? They should be able to locate them.
This is a pretty lowball robbery. They can't make much off a few iphones with no chargers, boxes, cases, or headphones. I also doubt these guys are smart enough to realize that apple can track these devises really easily.
They're probably already caught. Either way, it would be really stupid for a $12/hour (if that) employee to do anything about it except call the police/security.
This is a pretty lowball robbery. They can't make much off a few iphones with no chargers, boxes, cases, or headphones. I also doubt these guys are smart enough to realize that apple can track these devises really easily.
They're probably already caught. Either way, it would be really stupid for a $12/hour (if that) employee to do anything about it except call the police/security.
I would think these are worth quite a bit stripped for parts. The only thing that would be useless is the circuit board.
It makes me sick that thieves like this can just walk out knowing full well that nobody will stop them. The law should be on our side, if you choose to steal you should loose any rights to sue the people that try to stop you.
It makes me sick that thieves like this can just walk out knowing full well that nobody will stop them. The law should be on our side, if you choose to steal you should loose any rights to sue the people that try to stop you.
many places are like this. the security at best buy is like this. they are legally not allowed to touch you. A guy at the one i worked at took a psp and walked out. Same at officemax, some guy just walked in, grabbed a digital recorder and walked out. happens all the time
At the Apple store near me, all of the demo units are tied down with a thin black cable that's glued to the back of each. That's probably why the alarm went off: the theives must have given each iPhone a hard yank to break the cable connection.
This is certainly not a universal rule as I have seen multiple criminals chased and tackled by employees of Market Basket in NH and they're still my coworkers.
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I witnessed a robbery at the Tysons Mall Apple Store in Virginia. They used to have a checkout that faced the door, and I was standing at it, purchasing a screen protector, when I noticed the alarms go off. I looked up just in time to see two guys running out of the store, MacBook Pros under their arms. Think they might've grabbed a couple of 3GSes as well. The Apple Store employee who shut off the alarms literally just shrugged his shoulders at the whole situation. My guess is this is something of a common occurence.
I witnessed a robbery at the Tysons Mall Apple Store in Virginia. They used to have a checkout that faced the door, and I was standing at it, purchasing a screen protector, when I noticed the alarms go off. I looked up just in time to see two guys running out of the store, MacBook Pros under their arms. Think they might've grabbed a couple of 3GSes as well. The Apple Store employee who shut off the alarms literally just shrugged his shoulders at the whole situation. My guess is this is something of a common occurence.
Bank employees have the same rule. They're supposed to just do what the robber says and give them the money. If they have that rule at a bank it seems an Apple store is no big deal. You still have to make it to your get away without being followed and there is always a chance someone will recognize you or you could run into a patrol car. It's not as easy as just grabbing the stuff and you're home free. Just because employees aren't an obstacle doesn't mean there aren't any other ways it can go bad.
When I was at my apple store, I noticed that the iPhone sim trays didn't have an eject hole, so does this mean they can track the iPhones via mobile me? (assuming the robbers didn't take apart to whole phone to get the sim out.)
(assuming the robbers didn't take apart to whole phone to get the sim out.)This isn't the first time..
I worked at Apple on Knox for 3 years and this isn't the first time this has happened.
I worked at Apple on Knox for 3 years and this isn't the first time this has happened.
I work in wireless retail and this is a pretty common occurrence. The company looks at it as cost of doing business. Especially in Apple's case. They lost what 8 iPhones? How many iPhones has that location sold since launch? The value of those 8 phones equate to pennies in the grand scheme of things.
My company employs the same rules as other retailers in this situation, you don't touch or chase a thief for reasons already listed.
My philosophy is while it sucks that they made more work for me, why would I risk getting hurt chasing someone who stole things that didn't belong to me? Especially when the company who owns them makes billions of dollars a year.
My company employs the same rules as other retailers in this situation, you don't touch or chase a thief for reasons already listed.
My philosophy is while it sucks that they made more work for me, why would I risk getting hurt chasing someone who stole things that didn't belong to me? Especially when the company who owns them makes billions of dollars a year.
Wow, is this true you can't stop a thief in America?
Over here (Netherlands) a employee can just stop a thief and take him inside until the police arrives.
Also, by law, anyone can 'arrest' a thief.
Over here (Netherlands) a employee can just stop a thief and take him inside until the police arrives.
Also, by law, anyone can 'arrest' a thief.
yeah but those "professionals" suck at doing anything other than writing tickets.
people should start taking more responsibility rather than waiting on the cops to do something.
hell yeah. now thats common sense, not what that other guy said on page 1.
sorry about posting twice in a row by the way.
It would have been easy just to stick your foot out and trip that worthless pile of trash while he's running and make him do the faceplant, kick him in the face and keep him on the ground until the cops showed up.
Even if I were a customer I would have tried to at least trip the idiot, seriously hate thieves.
I agree with lavem and tflournoy, once you try to steal you are stripped of rights, if something bad happens to you, who cares? I don't, even if you get killed in the attempt, its really not society's problem.
Even if I were a customer I would have tried to at least trip the idiot, seriously hate thieves.
I agree with lavem and tflournoy, once you try to steal you are stripped of rights, if something bad happens to you, who cares? I don't, even if you get killed in the attempt, its really not society's problem.