Apple Store Integration In Tiger?

[dongmin]

Uhh, the last I checked, the only store iTunes links to is Apple's store. Now I don't hear anyone bitching about Apple "exerting its monopoly pressure" when it comes to iTMS. Give it up people. The implementation is minimal and nonintrusive. It's an option for people who want it.

 

[lostngone]

I can see it now

I go to load tiger on my old G4 and right after I stick the first install disk in, the apple store loads up a say my computer is to slow, please enter your credit card number to buy a new one.

Or better yet it does even ask it just places the order.

I'm sorry dave, I can't let you do that........

 

[Porchland]

Well, not sure I like the idea too much. I suppose it might be nice for some folks, but if it only links to Apple I don't love it.
Look, I'm a huge Apple fan and long time user. I want them to continue to thrive, but if MS did something like this in their OS, we would all be on here complaining that they were trying to exert their monopoly on the poor witless end user. How is Apple doing this any different?

Apple doesn't have a monopoly OS and isn't illegally tying products. That's the difference.

 

[CholEoptera36]

I dont think it's wrong for Apple to include a link to their own products, the same to be said that i don't think it's wrong when they include their own software packages with the OS.
But I think some other people might have a point that MS would most likely be sued for attempting something like this. At the very least all the whiners on here would cry about how big of a monopoly MS is.

 

[må¥å]

Why are people getting into a hissyfit about this?

We don't even know enough in regards to it, all we know is that it gives you an option to buy your ink from the Apple Store considering you have an account with them.

You have a choice to use it or not so why bicker over nothing. If there is a pop up alert I am sure you can disable it or activate it.

If you know so much about where to get the low prices then don't use it no one is forcing you to use it. If you want the added convience that is another thing make a link and store it in the dock. Apple is not getting paid to add and supply you with the lopwest deals on everything that is something that the consumer has to shop around for and compare, they business is to make a profit not supply you with the owest prices for XYZ products.

And no Apple is not a monopoly they have given you a choice, its up to you if you want to use it or not. If you consider 3% a monopoly I don't know what you call the remainder percentage if they seem to be going the same route as M$ well again you still have a choice to use it or not, I don't see you upgrading drivers and obtaining patches when you install your new OS unlike M$ does.


M$ = Walmart (bargain basement prices)

Apple = Designer

You get what you pay for.



take care.

 

[CholEoptera36]

And no Apple is not a monopoly they have given you a choice, its up to you if you want to use it or not.

Of course they're not a monopoly. But I think people would most definitely make the claim MS is being a monopoly again if it were MS integrading this into their OS.

 

[SeaFox]

Didn't MS do something similar to this in regards to pictures and/or music? And didn't they almost get in trouble for it?

Yeah I think so, but don't worry, Microsoft never actually gets in trouble for anything.

 

[CholEoptera36]

Yeah I think so, but don't worry, Microsoft never actually gets in trouble for anything.

Yeah they always seem to squeeze out somehow.

 

[Dr. Dastardly]

You don't work with end users, do you?

Word! I once spent over 20 minutes on the phone trying to calm down a user who demanded that he receive a new computer because it wa fried and won't even turn on. I eventually found that he was just turning on the monitor and not the CPU.

 

[CholEoptera36]

Word! I once spent over 20 minutes on the phone trying to calm down a user who demanded that he receive a new computer because it wa fried and won't even turn on. I eventually found that he was just turning on the monitor and not the CPU.

I think I'd shoot myself if I was that guy

 

[point665]

My grandmother and grandfather have asked me to pick out a computer for them and teach them howto use it when I goto Finland. I already know I will be getting them a iMac G5 or if eMacs are sill out then possibly a eMac... It is ideas and solutions just like this ordering print cartridges, and ordering iPhoto prints that makes Macs so much more userfriendly for beginners. I know we experienced users go "its for noobs" or some even refer to things like these as "gay" but then Apple is showing the world how easy using a computer can be. OSX has always been easy to use while retaining that power for us experienced users, and thats what makes it so great.

 

[må¥å]

Of course they're not a monopoly. But I think people would most definitely make the claim MS is being a monopoly again if it were MS integrading this into their OS.

Here is the odd twist, since you can run Windows, Linux, *nix (via X11), etc...on Apple they have kept the users to choose.


However on the Windows side this is not possible, thus the whole monopoly thing comes into play.


And lets not forget about M$ implementation of 3rd party software *ahem* JAVA whoch they had a hugh case some years back, poor implementation. That is not playing fair, Apple on the other hand has told it developers that it uses the most recent available to public Java build that SUN has to offer.

 

[JFreak]

i don't want apple to do it. in my opinion, it's ok to offer a downloadable interface TO the apple store IN the apple store for anyone who wants to use a dedicated app, but bundling the app into the operating system is no better than what microsoft has always been doing. i want apple to do the right thing, even if it costs some market share...

 

[billyboy]

You already have a link to download the latest Mac software built into the system. The Apple site is neither the only source of software for Mac, nor is it obligatory to get the software from Apple when you get to the page, nor is it obligatory to even hit the option in the menu bar in the first place.

Apple want ways of getting people to go to their online store and have a look around. They arent dear as poison for everything, they do have deals, and with the extra link to the store, the more people they think are browsing the store, the more deals they are likely to offer, so making it better for everyone.

And if you want cheap cartridges, my dad knows a place ...

 

[idkew]

i think this is cool. great for not techie people who just want to get the cartridge, no hassles.

i will be going elsewhere for mine, but my grandma would prolly use this service.

plus, a nice little bit of income for apple never hurts. more money in the pocket (not like $5,000,000,000 isn't enough) never hurts.

 

[SiliconAddict]

how tragic.

do you really think that there are people who can't read the model number on the front of their printer? What kind of idiots can't figure that out?

The same people who can't figure out a two-button mouse.

Sorry there was a mouse discussion on the boards earlier and I couldn't help myself.

 

[Eric_Z]

I would imagine that the independent Apple resellers might get a little upset with this if you can't change it to link to them instead.

I don't know if they would have enough to file a lawsuit though.

 

[h00ligan]

This is just another one of those things that makes Mac's more convenient to use - more expensive too, but you don't have to use the service. I'm sure that this will help out some poor schlub along the way so it a good thing(tm).

apple is doing it so it's convenient, but when microsoft does it it's anti competetive..

bs. it's crap from any company.. if they dont' givethe option to change it to another store at least.

t rakes my nerves that people appluad behaviour like this from apple but god forbid M$ do something similar.

stop being hypocrites people. - no offense to the quoted poster.. i have no idea what his/her thoughts are when other companies do this.

 

[rwclark]

I'm not a fan. I think commercial aspects should be kept out of the OS as much as possible.

 

[vga4life]

If it stays out of my way, fine. If it's an unremovable apple-menu item, i'll blow a gasket. Just the thought of it boils my blood.

*DON'T DO IT, APPLE!*

I'll toss my Mac out the window if I have to have a goddamn ad in front of my face all day.

-vga4life

 

[aftk2]

bs. it's crap from any company.. if they dont' givethe option to change it to another store at least.

Bah. It's not anticompetitive if they don't give you an easy option to change it. They don't have to do anything. I'd rather they not make a fancy GUI for changing store preferences, as it would detract from other things they should be working on instead.

Now, when this inevitably gets hacked by someone to allow end users to easily change where it points, if Apple throws a fit and orders the software to come down...then that would be anticompetitive.

 

[WM.]

how tragic.

do you really think that there are people who can't read the model number on the front of their printer? What kind of idiots can't figure that out? Worst case, you might have to open the top of the printer and read the big, obvious model number on the top of the ink cartridge. It's just an excuse to try and get that 1% of blind, stupid, lazy people to spend 20-30% more for the same products that they can buy anywhere else just as easily. I suppose our user accounts will have to get our credit card numbers for this to work, right? And gee, sir, we noticed that your version of Photoshop has an upgrade available for only 49.95 with this mail-in rebate, which you can print out only if you buy it through the integrated apple store...don't worry, this only takes up 1% of your processing power, and isn't it worth it for all the convenience?

Need to loosen that tinfoil hat there, bro...

If this "feature" can't be disabled (and i mean all the way disabled) then I suppose we won't be going to 10.4 in our office.

No way.

Um, why not? It's just a menu item. I mean, WTF, your users won't even see it unless they're running Printer Setup Utility for some reason (but that should be left to the admins, right?).

I hope you were joking...

 

[Foxer]

This would surely eliminate the confusion of buying cartidges from the myriad of options for printers, narrowing the field to only products that worked with the user's particular model of printer.

Myriad is an adjective, not a noun.

 

[Rower_CPU]

Myriad is an adjective, not a noun.

It's both: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=myriad

 

[spud]

i agree that waht apple is doing is neither illegal nor unconventional.
but i'd expect more from apple.
this ranges from the apple store link in the apple menu to their built-in iTunes music store to their unwillingness to let anybody else use AAC.
these are all the right thing to do in business, but not in the rest of the world.
they should licence aac, and they should, if they're going to build any online shopping into the OS, it should be like froogle.google.com's, with a variety of stores and options.
i don't think this is going to happen, as it would lose apple a lot of money and it's a corporation just like any other, but it is what should happen.
hey, at least their OS is build on open-source foundations...