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Clive At Five said:
And is it just me or has Apple been focusing a lot on gadgetry lately? iPods, PhonePods (iPhones), TelePorts (iTV), Google/GPS iPhoto syncing camera, etc... We want a computer company, not trinket provider. Leave that to Sony.

Yeah, let Sony handle the PMP market, they have always done a great job at that. :rolleyes: What was Apple thinking with that iPod?
 
Clive At Five said:
This does not excite me. I feel it is yet another way Apple is trying to plug the gaping hole between iMac and Mac Pro. Those wishing for a mid-range tower... keep dreaming.

And is it just me or has Apple been focusing a lot on gadgetry lately? iPods, PhonePods (iPhones), TelePorts (iTV), Google/GPS iPhoto syncing camera, etc... We want a computer company, not trinket provider. Leave that to Sony.

-Clive

Don't include me in your "we". I want my iTV and iPhone.
 
I never thought of myself as an iMac type of guy. More of a MBP for work, Mac Pro for home.

But the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great computer. 750 gig drive is sweet, 3 gigs of memory, huge display, and fast.

I always hated the wires and general visual mess of the normal desktop. Even in the age of bluetooth, there are too many wires.

I think the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great prosumer computer. I'm seriously considering purchasing one now.
 
BWhaler said:
I never thought of myself as an iMac type of guy. More of a MBP for work, Mac Pro for home.

But the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great computer. 750 gig drive is sweet, 3 gigs of memory, huge display, and fast.

I always hated the wires and general visual mess of the normal desktop. Even in the age of bluetooth, there are too many wires.

I think the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great prosumer computer. I'm seriously considering purchasing one now.

yeah, it's one of apple's better creations in years. As for the wires - if you go bluetooth on the mouse/KB, what do you have besides the power cord?
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
I'm not sure how many people would want a smaller macbook.
Depends on what you mean by smaller. If you mean thinner, lighter and generally less bulky then count me in.
Some people I've shown my MB to say they don't care for the small screen, which always seemed like plenty to me.
You are likely a young person if so the small screen is an advantage. If you are - Ugh - older like me the small screen is a huge disadvantage. The need for a larger screen is in a context of being able to easily read what is on screen. Which by the way is different from wanting high resolution. In any event if they can actually enlarge the screen and at the same time shrink some other dimensions that would be grand.
apple may be working on a small ultraportable, but for now the only real change we'll see for a while is C2D.
I've got mixed feelings as to seeing even a C2D in the current machines. The new MBP just isn't enough of an upgrade to allow for C2D in the MB. Especially considering thermal and other effects on the small machine. Apple may very well be going in the direction of all 64 bit machines, but to do that I think they need a different solution than the MB. At least in its current form.
Also, the smaller you go, the less room there is for an optical drive.
Ah yes but do we really need an optical drive anymore especially considering Apples marketing directions? Seriously take a look at the machine the One Laptop per Child (OLPC) organization is building, while I don't agree with the agenda, the machine does deliver some very interesting concepts. for example the pervasive use of networking, the use of solid state memory and a couple of other noteworthy ideas. A MB that has a good part of its store in solid state memory, with a very small drive for transient data, could be very small and compact. Very rugged too. Pervasive networking in the replacement MB will facilitate its use in education, open up opportunities in other industries and effectively reduce the need for a CD type drive of any type.

As funny as the OLPC computer looks, the concept is very attractive in the sense of a solid state rugged portable that can be operated just about anywhere. Apple putting its own twist on a rugged portable computer would be very acceptable to me.

Dave
 
KamaloPSU said:
Why would anyone with half an ounce of common sense buy the 750GB HD from Apple directly for the Mac Pro for a $399 upgrade for the first one and then $599 for each additional one when you can just buy a new one (or two or three) from Fry's.com for $159 each?! Shipping is $9. I can see if you don't want to take apart the imac to put a new drive in, but the Mac Pro has to be the easiest computer to add a HD to! I am all for good technology but i am loyal to my wallet not increasing apples profits by 3 fold per hard drive. And why can't these Mac Pro's have Hardware RAID controllers?!

Who says they cannot?

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/09/20/highpoint/index.php
 
BWhaler said:
I never thought of myself as an iMac type of guy. More of a MBP for work, Mac Pro for home.
Apples hardware release of late have been catching my eye also. Unfortunately the last Mac I owned was a Mac Plus, but Apple has become much more competitive of late.
But the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great computer. 750 gig drive is sweet, 3 gigs of memory, huge display, and fast.
Yep and with things like Santa Rosa and hopefully continued success with low power processors from Intel I see a long future for the machine. It is a platform that was pretty much dead ended with the lack of the right PPC processors.
I always hated the wires and general visual mess of the normal desktop. Even in the age of bluetooth, there are too many wires.
I don't every see that going completely away. What I do see is far fewer of those wires and more and more hardware sitting on network connections. From what I can see Apple thinks the same way.
I think the 24" iMac is shaping up to be a great prosumer computer. I'm seriously considering purchasing one now.

A very nice machine though to be honest with you, unless this is a Christmas present, I wouldn't bother with a desktop until after new years. Or until after the industry shakes out all of its upgrades and new products.

Dave
 
KamaloPSU said:
Why would anyone with half an ounce of common sense buy the 750GB HD from Apple directly for the Mac Pro for a $399 upgrade for the first one and then $599 for each additional one when you can just buy a new one (or two or three) from Fry's.com for $159 each?!

As of right now, you cannot buy one for $159 each. Read the page: it says "currently unavailable."
 
yep

that's an obvious price misprint. maybe on black friday you could see a price close to that for the ten minutes before they sell out, but last time I was at Fry's (last week) those drives were over $300 each
 
p0intblank said:
750 GB... that is just insane, especially for a consumer Mac! :D Apple is getting nicer and nicer when it comes to offering more configuration options.

Yeah, just think of all the porn you can download! ;)
 
With MacBook only second to iPod Nano in the sales league it would only be Apple generosity of spirit or a major change in Intel pricing which would see a MacBook update with C2D this year.

Anyway a graphics card would be top of the list if possible for desirability first!
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
I'm not sure how many people would want a smaller macbook. Some people I've shown my MB to say they don't care for the small screen, which always seemed like plenty to me. apple may be working on a small ultraportable, but for now the only real change we'll see for a while is C2D. Also, the smaller you go, the less room there is for an optical drive.

I could see Apple making a 10.6" widescreen MacBook nano (or would that be MacBook mini?), with top resolution of something like 1120 x 700. But yeah, it would still be at least 1" thick (same thickness as MBPs), because it would still have to accomodate an optical drive. If Apple came out with something like that with more or less the same specs as the MacBook, I'd buy it. I think there's a significant and growing market for ultraportables, especially as wireless broadband becomes even more ubiquitous and people use their laptops outside of their homes a larger percentage of the time....
 
Really? I don't get the fascination with tiny notebooks? I'm young and have great eyes and it's still a strain to see what you're working on a lot of the time. And if you don't do "work" on the notebook per se, just stick mostly to web browsing, email, IM, things like that, then why get a notebook at all? Why not just a good PDA? Smaller, lighter, works as a phone...

If you have (or want) a tiny notebook (12" or smaller), what do you use it for? I'm not being facetious, I'm actually curious...
 
clintob said:
Really? I don't get the fascination with tiny notebooks? I'm young and have great eyes and it's still a strain to see what you're working on a lot of the time. And if you don't do "work" on the notebook per se, just stick mostly to web browsing, email, IM, things like that, then why get a notebook at all? Why not just a good PDA? Smaller, lighter, works as a phone...

If you have (or want) a tiny notebook (12" or smaller), what do you use it for? I'm not being facetious, I'm actually curious...

Oh rest assured, I'll also be getting the "PDA" iPhone :)

...but it doesn't really compete with a laptop. The main difference is having a real keyboard (for typing lengthy emails, etc.) and optical drive (for watching DVDs). A PDA or tablet notebook would be good for web browsing but that's about it (and even then it would be annoying to type in website URLs). So yes, I do use my MacBook primarily for web browsing, email (same thing since I use webmail), iTunes, etc. That's exactly why a small laptop is ideal for me (the small fonts really don't bother me).
 
Chaszmyr said:
Xserve lags so far behind the Mac Pro in release, costs much more, has little to make it better and just as much to make it worse. I would love to have an Xserve, but I don't understand why anyone would buy one.

#1 feature: The xserve is small and takes little rack space
#2 redundnet power supplies
#3 disks and power supplies are front servicable (these are the thing that break all the time)
#4 Bundled with server version of OSX
#5 It comes with an option for no graphic card.
#6 Lights Out managment (see #5 above)

Of the above I bet #6 and #1 are the most populare features

Here is soething that competes with the xserve
http:http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t1000/

Notice they talk abut "power comsumption" and "compute density" something that only someone running many dozens or hundreds of these would care much about.

If yu realy want an xserve and can't afford one. I'd suggest buying a 1U rack mount PC case putting an ASUS mainboard inside of it and installing BSD UNIX. A Mac without a graphic card and with no mouse or keyboard is just a UNIX box.
 
ChrisA said:
If you realy want an xserve and can't afford one. I'd suggest buying a 1U rack mount PC case putting an ASUS mainboard inside of it and installing BSD UNIX. A Mac without a graphic card and with no mouse or keyboard is just a UNIX box.
Quoted for truth! :D
 
lmalave said:
Don't include me in your "we". I want my iTV and iPhone.

Yeah so do I, but I want Apple EMPHASIS on computers. It seems as though their #1 priority right now is on gadgets. I want a mid-range tower. All the Apple news we have right now is anything but computers.

-Clive
 
With such a great delay the XServes are coming at the same time Intel will release the first Quad-Core Clovertown CPUs.
Is Apple delaying so much in order to ship the XServe with Clovertown instead of Woodcrest?
 
tny said:
As of right now, you cannot buy one for $159 each. Read the page: it says "currently unavailable."

I have caught Fry's doing this four time just since their site opened. In the store, they will advertise some great deal, but you have to be a trained investigator to find it. They will hide the sale item around many higher-priced similar items with visual 'hooks'. There is no pointer to the sale item. You almost have to read the number and match it to the product. Often, there will not be any available and you must ask for them. On the website, they have a disclaimer, 'subject to prior sale'. I have yet to find one of the items I am looking for 'not sold out'. It is just short of being shady. But, if you are patient and pay attention, you can find some good deals there.
 
Clive At Five said:
I want Apple EMPHASIS on computers. It seems as though their #1 priority right now is on gadgets. I want a mid-range tower. All the Apple news we have right now is anything but computers.

Amen. And I'd love to see a mid-range tower. Something with a graphics card, one available PCI slot, up to two hard drives, and the Core 2 Duo desktop chip(socketed, not soldered please).

Let the iMacs take over in the living room and kitchen for people who are wealthy enough to have more than one or two computers. There are a lot more of us who need more expandability and power and who have our own monitors, but who can't afford the sticker price of a Mac Pro.
 
i found another update is that the macmini now lets you have up to a 160gb hdd:p

edit: along with the macpro now has the option for a 750gb hdd thus can hold 3TB now!
 
learning_bird said:
With such a great delay the XServes are coming at the same time Intel will release the first Quad-Core Clovertown CPUs.
Is Apple delaying so much in order to ship the XServe with Clovertown instead of Woodcrest?

I doubt that is the case since they announced the delay and then started taking preorders. I guess it's possible but why bother taking preorders. If they were waiting they would probably say something to get more orders.
 
jholzner said:
I doubt that is the case since they announced the delay and then started taking preorders. I guess it's possible but why bother taking preorders. If they were waiting they would probably say something to get more orders.
Apple took preorders on the original MacBook Pro and gave buyers a free processor speed bump.
 
I have a not-quite-offtopic question - I know you can exchange your computer for a new one within 14 days if you buy a MB now. (would you have to pay a restocking fee?)

What about if applecare is sending you a new MB to replace an old defective ibook? You didn't buy it, so you don't have a receipt. Could you exchange it for a C2D?

This isn't an entirely greed based query - after years of dealing with the logic board fiasco I'm nervous about getting a lemony macbook that randomly shuts down.
 
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