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so you're saying the apple watch UI is so confusing they have to run clinics to teach people how to use it?

how much time went into this thing?

shouldn't it be intuitive so anyone can pick it up and use?

or am I just reading this wrong?

In a nutshell, IMO, yes. :apple:

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Even that isn't so intuitive or we wouldn't have the La Leche League.

My wife was a Peer Counselor with La Leche. Super Organization. :)
 
My Apple Store is showing availability for the class at 10:15. Question is, who will actually have a watch by then? FedEx usually does not deliver that early, at least not in my neighborhood. Seem like this class will be sans the watch.
 
Five stores in my metro area: four of them don't show classes - not even waitlist - and the fifth's first class is May 8. I hope that isn't a sign that my city doesn't get Watches until the end of the first wave! :p
 
I sure hope the Apple employees teaching these workshops know the Apple Watch better than the Apple Store Specialist that demonstrated the Apple Watch for me this past Sunday. The guy was clearly nervous (visibly shaking) and it was obvious I knew more about how the Watch functioned than he did.

Worse (and incredibly disappointing), there wasn't a single fully-functional Apple Watch in the entire store that I could try on. There were dozens of non-functional Apple Watches to try on. But all of those were set to a preset demonstration loop with absolutely zero interaction from the customer. And, while the Apple Watches on display attached to little stands seemed to be mostly functional (but didn't have an iPhone linked to them, so STILL not fully-functional), those display watches were permanently mounted and couldn't be placed on the wrist.

I just wanted to confirm that the Apple Watch's heart rate monitor would work for me. I've got a cardiac pacemaker and other skin-contact heart rate monitors I've tried do not work for me.

Is it too much to ask for there to be a fully-functional Apple Watch (linked to a demo iPhone) available to try on?? If I'm thinking about spending $1,000 on a newfangled watch, is that really too much to ask?

Mark
 
I sure hope the Apple employees teaching these workshops know the Apple Watch better than the Apple Store Specialist that demonstrated the Apple Watch for me this past Sunday. The guy was clearly nervous (visibly shaking) and it was obvious I knew more about how the Watch functioned than he did.

Worse (and incredibly disappointing), there wasn't a single fully-functional Apple Watch in the entire store that I could try on. There were dozens of non-functional Apple Watches to try on. But all of those were set to a preset demonstration loop with absolutely zero interaction from the customer. And, while the Apple Watches on display attached to little stands seemed to be mostly functional (but didn't have an iPhone linked to them, so STILL not fully-functional), those display watches were permanently mounted and couldn't be placed on the wrist.

I just wanted to confirm that the Apple Watch's heart rate monitor would work for me. I've got a cardiac pacemaker and other skin-contact heart rate monitors I've tried do not work for me.

Is it too much to ask for there to be a fully-functional Apple Watch (linked to a demo iPhone) available to try on?? If I'm thinking about spending $1,000 on a newfangled watch, is that really too much to ask?

Mark
It is too much to ask because if it was fully functional and it had a glitch you might not buy it and where does that leave Apple.

I think in your particular case I'd definitely be waiting till this whole thing settles down a bit.
 
Besides the nipple, name one other user interface that is so intuitive that _everybody_ can use it?

An ATM. A PayPass POS terminal. A self-service checkout at the supermarket. The MagicBands at DisneyWorld. Pretty much any television set. Nintendo Wii. Automatic Defibrilators. In-flight entertainment systems. Microsoft Surface Table. A walkman. A remote control car. Public transport ticket dispensers and electronic ticketing. A calculator.

There are literally millions of devices that are so intuitive anyone can use them. Some are simple and some are incredibly complex.

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't run classes, but I do think that you are exaggerating somewhat when you say that there are no devices - even complex ones - that everybody with basic language skills and functioning finger to press buttons can't use without training.
 
Concerned

Ordered my watch at 12:03 launch day. Showing a April 24-May 8 delivery. Should I be concerned that my credit account still has not been debited yet?
 
Sheesh, come on guys, don't you think it's about time you gave some headline space to Apple watch? It's barely got a look in.

Meanwhile, everything else unrelated to Apple Watch, carries on happening, passing unnoticed by "journalists".
 
I spoke with apple support today and learned that at least a portion of the watches will be shipping out from Tennessee. I cant wait to get mine and as I am only 1 state away hopefully this means it will get here quick!

I don't think I'll need an apple watch basics course... I've been watching pretty much every video that has been released for the thing since last year...


That's always the case for Apple shipments so it's not really a stretch tho tell you that. Two of UPS's main hubs on Memphis and Louisville.
 
An ATM. A PayPass POS terminal. A self-service checkout at the supermarket. The MagicBands at DisneyWorld. Pretty much any television set. Nintendo Wii. Automatic Defibrilators. In-flight entertainment systems. Microsoft Surface Table. A walkman. A remote control car. Public transport ticket dispensers and electronic ticketing. A calculator.

There are literally millions of devices that are so intuitive anyone can use them. Some are simple and some are incredibly complex.

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't run classes, but I do think that you are exaggerating somewhat when you say that there are no devices - even complex ones - that everybody with basic language skills and functioning finger to press buttons can't use without training.

Hey! NFC Payments, Disney World (especially magic bands and the MSEP), and the Microsoft Surface! 3 of my favorite things all in one post! :D
 
Ordered my watch at 12:03 launch day. Showing a April 24-May 8 delivery. Should I be concerned that my credit account still has not been debited yet?

mine hasn't been debited yet either.:confused: I hope that doesn't mean it's gonna come in later than the 24th. I'm literally obsessed with the watch. I cannot wait anymore than a week! :D
 
Ordered my watch at 12:03 launch day. Showing a April 24-May 8 delivery. Should I be concerned that my credit account still has not been debited yet?

Well, after looking at the iPhone 6 threads, accounts were debited exactly a week before it shipped and went to "preparing for shipment". So maybe tomorrow!!! :D
 
An ATM. A PayPass POS terminal. A self-service checkout at the supermarket. The MagicBands at DisneyWorld. Pretty much any television set. Nintendo Wii. Automatic Defibrilators. In-flight entertainment systems. Microsoft Surface Table. A walkman. A remote control car. Public transport ticket dispensers and electronic ticketing. A calculator.

There are literally millions of devices that are so intuitive anyone can use them. Some are simple and some are incredibly complex.

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't run classes, but I do think that you are exaggerating somewhat when you say that there are no devices - even complex ones - that everybody with basic language skills and functioning finger to press buttons can't use without training.

And there are still people who run into problems with various devices that were mentioned. Too many people out there that have issues even with the simplest of things.
 
Is it just me or does it seem Apple are trying to hard with this whole Apple Watch thing? Rather than allowing customers find the void it fills they're ramming it down our throats. Either way it won't guarantee them a successful product.
Maybe the android watch would have been successful if training was provided to the idiots that bought them.
 
An ATM. A PayPass POS terminal. A self-service checkout at the supermarket. The MagicBands at DisneyWorld. Pretty much any television set. Nintendo Wii. Automatic Defibrilators. In-flight entertainment systems. Microsoft Surface Table. A walkman. A remote control car. Public transport ticket dispensers and electronic ticketing. A calculator.

There are literally millions of devices that are so intuitive anyone can use them. Some are simple and some are incredibly complex.

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't run classes, but I do think that you are exaggerating somewhat when you say that there are no devices - even complex ones - that everybody with basic language skills and functioning finger to press buttons can't use without training.

I can show you people with problems with each one of those.

Just tonight I was at a store watching an old man try to figure out the new-fangled soda machines we have. The one where you can choose any of hundreds of sodas - like a vanilla diet dr. pepper if you want. He didn't understand touch screens. He kept sliding his finger across it from the edge to what he wanted. He didn't 'get' that you just had to press and release with your finger. After about a minute of him 'not getting it' and looked like he was going to give up, I went over and helped him out.

Have you seen the youtube videos of kids trying to operate things like a walkman that you think is so easy? The kids can't figure it out!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E
 
so you're saying the apple watch UI is so confusing they have to run clinics to teach people how to use it?

how much time went into this thing?

shouldn't it be intuitive so anyone can pick it up and use?

or am I just reading this wrong?

Totally agree. Between the countless videos they published, now they need to personally explain to you how to work this thing?

Never mind they don't even trust the end user will be able to understand putting it on, thus the need for appointments to even try it on.

A very confusing product, most people on the street don't get it at all.

:apple:
 
Yeah, I have a hard time believing that any gold watch buyer would get group training. Why even put the gold watch on the page?

Seriously? Do you think the Watch Edition is like some golden ticket into Apple? Maybe Tim Cook himself will fly out in person every time an Edition owner has a question.
 
Classes are available 4/24 - 5/8

My classes run 5/13-5/27

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I have a feeling anyone who gets a watch on the 24th, probably won't need this class :rolleyes:

Haha, I know right? At my try on appointment, I was teaching the employee about features he didn't know existed. I double clicked the digital touch button to bring up Apple Pay and he was like "how did you do that?"
 
An ATM. A PayPass POS terminal. A self-service checkout at the supermarket. The MagicBands at DisneyWorld. Pretty much any television set. Nintendo Wii. Automatic Defibrilators. In-flight entertainment systems. Microsoft Surface Table. A walkman. A remote control car. Public transport ticket dispensers and electronic ticketing. A calculator.
If you think the that _everybody_ can use the devices you've listed without question, then you don't get around much.
 
Is it just me or does it seem Apple are trying to hard with this whole Apple Watch thing? Rather than allowing customers find the void it fills they're ramming it down our throats. Either way it won't guarantee them a successful product.

I agree with your feeling, they're pushing it hard.

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When the little hand is on the 3 and the big hand is on the 12...

LOL. "Look, this is the Apple Watch, this is the thing you ordered in April but will get in June. Take a look."
 
Maybe the android watch would have been successful if training was provided to the idiots that bought them.

Or maybe people don't care much about having a smart watch when they can access most things via their phone which needs to be in close proximity.

The fitness side is great but that's only targeting the niche of the market who are interested in tracking their vitals.

Until it becomes THE communication device it won't beome a must have.
 
Seriously? Do you think the Watch Edition is like some golden ticket into Apple? Maybe Tim Cook himself will fly out in person every time an Edition owner has a question.


You are reading what I said incorrectly. What I meant was, if someone spent $10,000-17,000 on a watch, they would expect, dare I say demand, one on one personal assistance. That's what you'd get if you bought a Rolex. The same should apply here. That's what they are marketing. If you are trying to cater to the high end jewelry community, expect to give high end service.
 
It's probably just you.

"Trying (too) hard..."???

It's called a product launch. Marketing. Sales. Education. Support. Etc. (This is the "education" part).

"Ramming it down our throats?"

In this case, I'm guessing YOU took the initiative to read about this and YOU took the initiative to comment on it.

Quick question: How difficult is it to just *move along* if something doesn't suit you?

Quick answer: Not very. Try it sometime!

What would have been classier would be to wait and let the benefits speak for itself. If it's really a "must have" then allow friends and colleagues give their unbiased feedback by utilising its features and sharing their experience with others. Whether that's with social media or word of mouth. To me this shows significant uncertainty amongst Apple heads on whether this product will succeed on its benefits alone.

Apple are taking the populist fashion culture approach and flooding the market by handing out freebies to VIPs and touting how great this device is before it's even released.

Look I'm all for education and marketing but the best products also speak for themselves and do much of the marketing heavy lifting. This product is not even released so whatever feedback we hear will contain a level bias which is frankly hard to swallow.
 
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