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Apple Stores Will Continue to Require Masks for Now
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I put the mask on the table because I don't want that nasty bacteria rag in my back pocket. Hey, with all I'm being told, every breath I take brings the Earth one breath closer to climate catastrophe and death in all the worst ways possible, all at once, and then again one at a time just to be sure.
so no, the mask does NOT go in my pocket, lol!
Yeah right!
Either peace of mind as you say, or...it was just something to do so that people can say they're doing something; anything.
They could have been praying to The Almighty Turtle, but they chose this instead.
CDC caught up to where 100 years of epidemiology, virology, and common sense 5 months ago. Better late than never. People who have been vaccinated or has the disease are at no risk to anyone. Was obvious but at least now recognized.
Almost no data showing healthy asymptomatic people wear masks has any impact either, but it was a tolerable burden while awaiting natural immunity or the vaccination.
Even the CDC did a study over the course of 100 days and found scientifically insignificant protect for wearing a mask indoors. It was 1.8% or less protection at the 100 day mark for indoor use.
Alright, so what’s the bar for you to think it’s safe for vaccinated individuals to ditch their masks? Do you expect COVID to go away completely? That ship sailed months ago. It’s never going away; the key going forward is managing it just like we do influenza. We’ll have good years and bad years, and better strains and worse strains, but COVID is simply part of our lives now…just like the flu.
Moreover, do you seriously believe the CDC casually forgot to consider the factors you mentioned in updating its guidance?
The CDC is a political mess, it’s hard to know how much of the decision percentage is science and how much politics.
Not true, I was vaccinated and still got infected, and I fell quite ill, kind of scary actually.
There is also not a single virus, there are several strains now, some differ by as much as 60% genetically from the original virus for which most vaccines were developed.
It’s called Virtue Signalling. But whatever I have always been on the side of wearing one being a personal choice.
It doesn't protect you from getting it 100%
It reduces the risk of you catching it, having serious complications, it also reduces the risk of transmission to others.
Untrue. When the vaccination is effective you are not infectious because the virus never multiplies in the your bloodstream to the point where you can cough any on people. Vaccination prevents infection by arming your body with the antibodies in advance. Each vaccine has an efficacy rate (over 90% for some). Then when enough people are vaccinated you achieve “herd immunity” which is when the R0 (“r-not”) transmission rate for the virus is so low it dies off before it can find somebody to spread to.
Anybody who is so frightened of getting sick among a vaccinated population with herd immunity and especially those who are vaccinated themselves should really rethink far more dangerous activity like driving, walking on sidewalks besides busy streets, and flying on commercial airplanes.
the risks are so minimal for fully vaccinated people among a vaccinated population that the masks become unnecessary…. Now if only those who were afraid of the vaccine more than the virus would get over their fears then we can get back to normal.
Hmm, people have reported and it has been studied that getting the vaccine makes one more likely to contract it and probably transmit it to others.
If you’re looking for problems, anyone making any conclusions or proclamations about the field of experimental microbiology is fundamentally stupid.
This includes everyone worried about adverse reactions to treatment, AND everyone worried about getting COVID-19.
The viral ID methods, and even the research equipment are “experimental”. None of this is hard science, there’s a huge margin of error in any viral ID.
The mask people listened to the advice of epidemiologists about a field they aren’t even involved in, and that’s highly contested and theoretical on its own. That’s a 100% clown move. They heard thunder and ran for a priest, instead of a meteorologist.
The sociology studies of all this should be pretty interesting, many of the political left who have doggedly ridiculed the religious right, behaved the exact same way, turning to irrational fear and superstition at the mere mention of the unknown. The only difference is with the right, they wear their magic panties underneath the clothing.
You’re making my argument for me. My post was sarcastic.
Does this affect us if we have always avoided Apple Stores anyway?
If anyone ever made a derisive comment to me about wearing a mask there would be a confrontation. Just because I’m willing to wear a mask doesn’t make me a pacifist.
He was right - learn the science. A vaccine is designed to prevent you from catching the disease caused by the virus. The vaccine arms your body with the antibodies in advance so when that one little virus strand shows up in your body and tries to attach its receptor to your cells it finds itself muzzled with an antibody that fits like a glove over the receptor and makes it incapable of infecting your cells. Even if the virus gets a few cells and reproduces in tiny quantities dodging the antibodies at first your body will have antibodies in your blood stream to prevent further infection or virus reproduction leaving the virus to die in your blood and get filtered by your kidneys.
hence you don’t get the disease and are never infectious. Folks with weaker immune systems may find that their body stops producing the antibodies and when the virus shows up those people’s immune system then kick in and “remember” which antibody to create and though they do get sick it is never that bad since their body’s reaction is much faster than somebody who was never exposed. BUT this is not how vaccine’s are made to work. They are not made to make it so you are less sick, but a byproduct of when somebody’s immune system is more lax is that vaccine has already trained the immune system on what to do. This is when they record a “failure” of the vaccine to work (efficacy rate measures how often it succeeds)
So in summary, vaccines work by preventing infection. When vaccines are not effective they still provide the backup/fallback of making it so you don’t get very sick from the virus.
Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are both over 90% effective. So 9 out of 10 vaccinated with those will NEVER get infected. Never catch COVID-19 disease from the virus. The 1 out of 10 who can still get sick if exposed to will have a mild case of COVID-19. If enough people get vaccinated then we get herd immunity. And the virus finds it has to do the equivalent of winning the lottery to spread within a population with herd immunity.
Then you are willing to present an electronic vaccination "passport" as proof when asked at a store/facility?
Thanks for the “dramatic” language. The simple truth it is a private company and private property. Don’t like the rules, don’t enter. But also all the tards and no vaxers will just come in without a mask anyway spreading pandemic Willy nilly. Now if they just exposed themselves and were the only ones to die and didn’t use insurance benefits and hospital space -who cares, but that is not the case, sadly
so if anyone chooses to still wear a mask and any company chooses to continue to provide safety. Good for them. It’s called freedom.
Bill Marr says “hold my beer”Highly unlikely!
...After weeks of telling people that even fully vaccinated people might carry virus in their noses, mouths or throats and breathe or spit it out onto others, the CDC says the evidence shows this is unlikely.
What's the science behind CDC's decision to say fully vaccinated people don't need masks? | CNN
A fresh batch of data from a big study of healthcare workers across the country helped prompt the CDC to say fully vaccinated people can go without masks in most circumstances, the agency said Friday.www.cnn.com
The reason -- viral load. At least three major studies have shown that fully vaccinated people are not likely to test positive for coronavirus, which indicates they are not carrying it in their bodies, whether they have symptoms or not.
they don't they work by lowering complications from an infection. and most viruses don't die in you body. in fact they stay in your body and live as long as you do. take chickenpox for example. you can have the vaccine and get infected and have no symptoms, but the virus will remain in body for your whole life and the minute you body has a dip in immune system it will resurface as Shingles during which you can infect other people. just because you didn't have symptoms doesn't mean you didn't get infected and aren't carrying the virus
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You are wrong. Read my previous comment for the science on how it works. In summary, when a vaccine works (e.g. one with 95% works 95% of the time) then you will NOT get infected. When a vaccine failed to work (e.g. 95% efficacy means it fails 5% of the time) then it does what you say and prevents serious illness and hospitalization.
95% of people with Pfizer or Moderna vaccine will have antibodies in their blood stream and that will prevent infection.
And if you don’t want to wear a mask, don’t go into an apple store and don’t travel to New Jersey.