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Tell the Yankees that.

Yes the vaccine makes you a lot less likely to get COVID, but you can still catch it and spread it. Symptoms will be little to none, but it can still happen. 8 Yankees employees caught it and 7 of the 8 were asymptomatic, the other had mild symptoms for a day.
Oh nos!! They caught it?! Or did they just get tested with an absurd PCR cycle count? I think it’s very telling that they were “asymptomatic”. In other words, they weren’t sick.
 
There’s no actual proof masks do anything. But it is scientific fact. 😏
Which is why surgeons wear masks when the OR and have done so for generations. Would you really want one to go without masks when they take you into the OR.

Personally, I'm fighting the 5th cancer and will be wearing masks when ever I go to a store, It's not rocket science. Patients going to Chemo all wear a mask, as do the medical professional personnel working in the chemo rooms.

There is also the problem with the annual flu issues. Last year has been very mild because people were wearing masks, but 61000 died in '17 - '18, and over 800,000 were hospitalized. Masks are going to be attractive to older folks as well as all people who are fragile - and their families.
 
Which is why surgeons wear masks when the OR and have done so for generations. Would you really want one to go without masks when they take you into the OR.

Personally, I'm fighting the 5th cancer and will be wearing masks when ever I go to a store, It's not rocket science. Patients going to Chemo all wear a mask, as do the medical professional personnel working in the chemo rooms.

There is also the problem with the annual flu issues. Last year has been very mild because people were wearing masks, but 61000 died in '17 - '18, and over 800,000 were hospitalized. Masks are going to be attractive to older folks as well as all people who are fragile - and their families.
I went to Japan a few years ago for work. I was impressed that at the airport they take your temperature and give you a free mask right as soon as you get off the plane (if you're sick).

Imo that's doing something right. Here, we have our sick leave rolled up in PTO so no one takes sick leave - and gets the whole office sick over and over.
 
Well it's quite obvious: what the hell was the point of getting vaccinated if we still have to wear masks? And thankfully the CDC recognized this. It was really undermining the vaccine. If you’re uncomfortable going into public places without a mask then wear a mask. Or two.
The point of getting a vaccine is to protect yourself and eventually protect others once herd immunity is achieved. The point of wearing a mask is to protect others until herd immunity is achieved.
 
But you can (and it HAS been shown in multiple instances) still pass it along to other people. (Besides, what does 95% efficacy mean to you, anyway?)

This is not correct. The current state of knowledge is - we don't yet know whether vaccinated people can infect others, although the CDC says the evidence "suggests" vaccinated people can't be infected with the virus (and thus cannot infect others).


Note that this does support the idea that we should still be wearing masks to protect others - until an actual determination is made.
 
No. The vaccination is supposed to protect you from getting the virus. That's the point.
The vaccine is there to prevent symptoms. In other words, your body will produce a response so you won't get sick or seriously sick when you get the virus most of the time. It will also lessen your infectiousness when you are around others. The trials never looked at asymptomatic COVID-19 so the efficacy rate in that regard is not clear.
 
You are wrong. Read my previous comment for the science on how it works. In summary, when a vaccine works (e.g. one with 95% works 95% of the time) then you will NOT get infected. When a vaccine failed to work (e.g. 95% efficacy means it fails 5% of the time) then it does what you say and prevents serious illness and hospitalization.

95% of people with Pfizer or Moderna vaccine will have antibodies in their blood stream and that will prevent infection.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccine trials recorded cases as defined by 1) positive covid test and one moderate symptom (like shortness of breath or low blood O2 levels) or 2) two or more milder symptoms (like fever or cough). It does not account for infections.
 
I'm sure the CDC took liars into account when coming up with their guidance. They're not idiots and realize some people will lie.
They did, they specifically stated those who were fully vaccinated. They did not state “liars” in any guideline whatsoever
 
The CDC acknowledges “breakthrough” events. But for some strange reason will not count vaccinated people who do not have symptoms (a.k.a. Asymptomatic) cases but will only count hospitalization and death.

Didn’t the world shutdown due to asymptomatic spread. Yes you can still be hospitalized and die with any of these vaccines.
Maybe, and with some of thee variants it is unclear. But for those strains has been tested on the risk is about like getting hit by lightning or a meteor, it’s there but so freakin low that you won’t get hospitalized or die
 
The whole pandemic has been weird.

First, the Republicans made masks political, because they didn't want to follow the science.

Now, the Democrats made masks political, because they don't want to follow the science.

This has been a great example for learning to think for yourself and not lumping yourself into one of two groups. Both have acted incredibly stupid. I wore a mask from March last year up until a month ago when I was fully vaccinated.
 
Actually, you can't pass it to other people. The amount of virus shed following an mRNA vaccine is so minimal they can't track it and is inadequate for transmission. It has been shown in absolutely ZERO instances that you can pass it to others.

95% efficacy means there's a 5% chance that the virus evades your antibodies and infects YOU. Often a result of your body being compromised by another illness, leaving your immune response weak. At that point you'd be a host to a LIVING virus, and could potentially spread it.

You understood the OP wrong. After being vaccinated you can still get a mild form of Covid and infect other people. If they are not already vaccinated they can die from it.
 
You are wrong. Read my previous comment for the science on how it works. In summary, when a vaccine works (e.g. one with 95% works 95% of the time) then you will NOT get infected. When a vaccine failed to work (e.g. 95% efficacy means it fails 5% of the time) then it does what you say and prevents serious illness and hospitalization.

95% of people with Pfizer or Moderna vaccine will have antibodies in their blood stream and that will prevent infection.

Unfortunately you are wrong and I really hope no one gets sick or worse because of your carelessness.
 
The whole pandemic has been weird.

First, the Republicans made masks political, because they didn't want to follow the science.

Now, the Democrats made masks political, because they don't want to follow the science.

This has been a great example for learning to think for yourself and not lumping yourself into one of two groups. Both have acted incredibly stupid. I wore a mask from March last year up until a month ago when I was fully vaccinated.
i completely agree with you, but people around tend to make it hard to think for oneself and be content with it. some crazy old lady flipped me off because i wasn't wearing a mask outside(social distancing and all). mind you, she was in her car. alone. wearing a mask. now if i gave two s—ts about her opinion... and some people care a great deal about what those around them will say... but yea — think for yourself and don't go mad.
 
The amount of correct information one has regarding COVID seems to be inversely proportional to the amount of posts they make about COVID.
People: Get the vaccine. Keep wearing masks as requested. It's not hard. We're almost through, thankfully because as dumb as we are we are the richest nation. Look, New Zealand gave you Lord Of The Rings the movies. You like New Zealand. Be like New Zealand.
 
I used to think masks made sense (see my ignorant posts pushing masks last year) until I saw actual real world studies. Even without seeing the studies, you’d think people with any common sense and basic knowledge of facts would realize it’s all bogus by now, but unfortunately it’s become politicized and a way for the morally bereft to virtue signal and shame others who won’t wear one.
 
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