What adamjackson wrote is not all BS as $ + $ + $ … fragmentation is a reality if you try to follow the major soccer leagues and tournaments around the world. Movies are not the only streaming content.
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Apple Struggling to Keep Up With Increasing Piracy of Apple TV+ Content
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What these people fail to realize is that pricing for products and services has to account for the inevitable theft. So the solution to steal or pirate is only making the problem worse.
So you want everything, for cheap. Then get cable. This thread is about stolen content as movies and series, not about live sports which is a whole other beast.
Actually... Netflix is spending $17 billion.
But yes I agree.
Netflix Reveals $17 Billion in Content Spending in Fiscal 2021
Netflix will spend $17 billion on content in 2021, a notable uptick from the streamer's 2020 budget of $11.8 billion.variety.com
Nice! wow that's a lot of movies! I think Netflix said $2B last year on "Creation" of content or "Production" of content.
I did hear about $17B 2021 - but that is for procurement - buying existing shows and stuff - the actual making of shows from scratch sponsored by Netflix was $2B or so - I'm going from memory though. I could still be wrong though. Just a difference between production and acquisition.
Anyways - $17B is still a lot of movies yo - whether they are produced from scratch or acquired. I guess Netflix really wants to solidify their position in the market. It's a one trick company. Apple TV+ is just a small part of the Apple Empire.
I used to have satellite. Not only did I have to pay for higher packages to get channels I wanted (usually just one per package), but if I wanted to watch it in other rooms, I had to pay extra for boxes. If I didn't want to watch it live, I needed a DVR, which was another fee. Every year, I got a nice price increase to go along with it. My bill reached $120 at one point, but honestly, I could've dropped a couple of boxes and gotten it down to $110.
I now pay less than $50 a month (tops):
Apple TV+ ($4.99)
Disney+/Hulu+/ESPN+ ($19.99 per month, though $13.99 is subtracted via my Verizon subscription)
Paramount+/Showtime ($9.99 for both thanks to Apple deal)
Peacock ($4.99)
Up! Faith & Family (temporary subscription) ($4.99)
Discovery+ ($6.99 - temporary free 12-month subscription)
HBO Max (temporary subscription - $7.49 per month for six months)
That's a grand total of $38.45 permanent subscriptions.
I have Amazon Prime as well, but that's primarily for shipping and other reasons. I probably would only subscribe to their streaming service a few months out of a year if it wasn't for the other stuff, so I didn't include it in my pricing.
Netflix is too high for my tastes, but I will probably subscribe for the months of November/December/January, and then cancel it again.
I have WAY too many things to watch on the above services alone, not even counting Blu-ray and $2.00-$4.99 digital movie purchases, so I'm pretty content.
I now pay less than $50 a month (tops):
Apple TV+ ($4.99)
Disney+/Hulu+/ESPN+ ($19.99 per month, though $13.99 is subtracted via my Verizon subscription)
Paramount+/Showtime ($9.99 for both thanks to Apple deal)
Peacock ($4.99)
Up! Faith & Family (temporary subscription) ($4.99)
Discovery+ ($6.99 - temporary free 12-month subscription)
HBO Max (temporary subscription - $7.49 per month for six months)
That's a grand total of $38.45 permanent subscriptions.
I have Amazon Prime as well, but that's primarily for shipping and other reasons. I probably would only subscribe to their streaming service a few months out of a year if it wasn't for the other stuff, so I didn't include it in my pricing.
Netflix is too high for my tastes, but I will probably subscribe for the months of November/December/January, and then cancel it again.
I have WAY too many things to watch on the above services alone, not even counting Blu-ray and $2.00-$4.99 digital movie purchases, so I'm pretty content.
Ah I see. I didn't know the breakdown of what the money was for.
It's still a TON of money.
I hear Netflix produced/procured 700 series a couple years ago. That's not 700 episodes... 700 entire series!
It's mindboggling!
Just like when Photoshop was $800 a seat or something like that. Adobe had to bake in the fact that 9/10 active copies were stolen.
I cancelled my subscription after finishing the season finale of Ted Lasso. I’ll resubscribe when Apple releases new enjoyable content.
So true. Jobs started this all and saved the music industry by making a one stop shop for music. The model moved towards streaming and now all you need is one cheap monthly subscription . I used to pirate music and now I don’t. Because Spotify caters for all my needs. I’ve even deleted alll the ripped MP3s off my system to save space because I don’t need them any more.
Jobs tried to do the same with TV and Movies but the studios wouldn’t play. They got greedy and now we have the streaming wars. I subscribe to two services. That my limit. And with AppleTV+ it was a case of “if you can’t beat them join them”. This is why piracy is on the rise again.
That’s why the steps are Pay, then immediately cancel. When you cancel, you’re only cancelling the autopay, they STILL give you access to the month you’ve paid for. There are a few app subscriptions that I use the same way… Pay/Cancel, use it the few times in the given month where I need it, then it lapses automatically.
For subscriptions that are NOT going through Apple, it’s a little trickier I’d guess, but still, taking the time to cancel immediately is a thing everyone should learn how to do.
or maybe everyone (scriptwriters, camera, stage hands, actors, ...) in a tv show wants to be paid a fair amount for their work in comparison to the exploitation of the music artist? Music streaming impoverished many artists overnight. Only the popular music artists earn well on streaming.
Apple shouldn’t bother trying. I spend a decent amount on content because I can. But in my younger days things were different. Let’s just say I was very familiar with the one eyed sites. Durring that time I would occasionally run into something I couldn’t get because of aggressive takedowns. I never said ‘ok well I just have to pay for it then’ LOL. I just moved on to something else.
Seriously Apple just make more good content so you can continue to take my money and the people like me. Don’t worry about stopping the younger version of me. You can’t.
Give me an Apple One bundle without Arcade but with News. Or no Arcade but with Fitness. Lean into the people throwing money at you already.
Seriously Apple just make more good content so you can continue to take my money and the people like me. Don’t worry about stopping the younger version of me. You can’t.
Give me an Apple One bundle without Arcade but with News. Or no Arcade but with Fitness. Lean into the people throwing money at you already.
All the big songs are on YouTube. Find a mp3 extractor and you are good to go.
I have Apple TV+ and will probably cancel it when the free term is up due to the fact there’s very little on it I find appealing. As I pay for multiple other streaming services like Netflix, Amazon and Disney+, I can see how it can get expensive. I’d probably be in the boat of downloading anything that gets popular from Apple rather than pay for a service that is mostly unappealing to be honest. I don’t mind paying if there is enough content, but up until now there hasn’t been.
Exactly.
Funny how no one seems to worry about Youtube letting anyone listen to nearly any song ever made.
Sometimes it's the artist or labels themselves who upload songs to Youtube.
Do the ads on Youtube pay more than buying the song for $1.29 or the royalties from a streaming service?
The existence of Piracy is great for the consumer - it provides an alternative. It provides motivation for the industry to improve how it deliver's it's content, what they charge for it - and makes them realize that there are actual, measurable consequences for getting it wrong.
I tend to view piracy as a barometer for how well the industry is doing at delivering their content in a way their audience finds acceptable.
The more they complain about it - the more it demonstrates what a p*ss poor job they are doing.
Not condoning piracy blah blah blah, always be some people that do it regardless etc
I tend to view piracy as a barometer for how well the industry is doing at delivering their content in a way their audience finds acceptable.
The more they complain about it - the more it demonstrates what a p*ss poor job they are doing.
Not condoning piracy blah blah blah, always be some people that do it regardless etc
Currently have Apple and Netflix. Really quite happy with Apple’s shows. Considering that I don’t watch that much, it is even sufficient. I only occasionally find something interesting on Netflix, and mainly keep it for all the cartoons for the kids. I am interested in HBO but frankly I have enough to watch in my limited tv time. Not interested in Disney.
Haha, classic psychological justification bs.
Not justifying anything pal - just saying its a good barometer of whether the industry is giving people what they want. Look I even wrote "not condoning piracy" at the bottom of my post for the hard-of-thinking.
Not really sure what point you were making?
That's part of it, but I think Steve Jobs also got it right: you're competing with the user experience of privacy, too.
I do pay for Apple TV+, but the TV app isn't great. It's OK on iPadOS, and kinda bad on macOS (for example, who thought 80 pixels is wide enough for a volume slider?). If I were to pirate For All Mankind or whatever, I could instead watch it in IINA or VLC or some other player, which are more customizable to my liking. With the TV app, it's take it or leave it. Other streaming services tend to be not much better.
If you had told me twenty years ago that Apple was launching a TV streaming service, I would have expected it to be OK at content and outstanding at user experience; instead, it's excellent at content, but middle-of-the-road at user experience.
Is it just me or does anyone else’s find all the shows on ATV boring? There’s plenty on Netflix I like but none on ATV.
Piracy is a crime and therefore I cannot understand why the law and the courts do not go after the ad companies because surely if piracy is a crime, the ad companies are making money off these piracy sites and thus it comes under 'proceeds of crime', thus why aren't the ad companies being shut down? Cut of the revenue stream and the majority of the piracy sites will close down.
Wha?
I don't even watch that many shows, but my taste includes Trek (so I already need both Netflix and Prime Video here) and Marvel (so that's Disney+). Then I like some of Apple's shows (so TV+). Oops, already above $20.
Oh, and that's not even counting shows I can't watch at all because everything is stupid.
Yes, that's the dance one must perform. There should be an app that does the dancing .?