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Either Spotify is (wonderfully) underpriced, or the fragmented variety of video streaming services provides very poor value for consumers,
They are two different types of business, with different markets. Movies/TV and music are truly not comparable other than they are meant to entertain, and they're different even at that.
 
And yet Apple won't create a cheap stick AppleTV device or allow a Google Chromecast app, which would allow more people access to the content even if they have a subscription. I can watch pirated AppleTV+ content on all my devices but only watch it on an AppleTV or the AppleTV on a firestick.
 
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I asked because the books are just talking and are boring (but worth reading). I haven't watched all the released episodes (watched the first two) and they have much more action than the books even if they have a lot of talking. Unfortunately, the show so far is not great.
I watched the first one and knew at best the series would be a binge watch later.
 
Rise of piracy: I want to watch stuff at home at my convenience
Rise of streaming services: now I can watch conveniently at home, at my leisure and at reasonable prices. Piracy went waaaay down.
Fragmentation of streaming services: now I need subscriptions to like a dozen different streaming services to watch content at home at my convenience. Stopped at Netflix, a shared Hulu sub and Amazon Prime since we have the latter anyway. Anything that’s not there either doesn’t get watched, or pirated.

TLDR, piracy is on the rise again because there’s too many damn streaming services all wanting their pound of flesh.

Consumers: We want a-la-carte. Please unbundle all the content channels so we can pick the ones we want.
Those who understood what that means: Um... no. That will be very, VERY expensive!
consumers: Bah... it will cost like $5 max per channel. Shut up we know what we are taking about.
Studios and content owners: Ok here you go. Now create your own bundle.
Consumers: There are too many choices. We want the bundle from before.
 
Video, I am paying nearly €69/month for a mixed-bag of services and I still can’t watch classics like Clint Eastwood‘s Dollar trilogy without having to pay an extra €3-€4 per film; the same is true of old classics like Dirty Harry, 2001, or Bullitt. I like old movies.
I have Prime, but not for the video part of it. I have Netflix, but now that they've raised the price again, I think it may be time to finally toss it.

Movies I care about, I own. The Dollars movies, too. :)
 
Very true. If you have a show you want to watch that doesn't dump everything all at once, which MANY providers are now doing, you have to keep it. There is no beauty in having to pay for 10 different subs. None. Hence why people pirate.




This 100%.
So you mean consumers can't wait until the season is finished and watch all episodes n one month and cancel until the next season? Will they wither and die if they wait?
 
This is a tough line to walk, because piracy is illegal and I am absolutely not condoning it, but nonetheless I find it harder to condemn pirates in light of Hollywood’s unreasonable actions.

There is a ridiculous number of streaming services, and even if you subscribe to every one of them, you still have to pay even more on top of that for features like “premium access” - and even if you do that, there is still no way to watch movies like Free Guy, No Time To Die, or Spider-Man No Way Home.

Going to movie theaters is still a health risk (in addition to all the problems it already had before). I think it is unconscionable to force people to go to theaters for these movies.
 
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So you mean consumers can't wait until the season is finished and watch all episodes n one month and cancel until the next season? Will they wither and die if they wait?
Probably an extension of FOMO and the fact that people want everything now. I still remember when I had to wait months for a movie or series to be released on DVD/VHS and then lay a stew price for it.
 
This is a tough line to walk, because piracy is illegal and I am absolutely not condoning it, but nonetheless I find it harder to condemn pirates in light of Hollywood’s unreasonable actions.
Really, the correct answer is, not to play. Otherwise, you're just an enabler. I've come to realize that it's just TV, and who really cares? Pirating stuff is too much effort for schlock.
 
Sorry, but this is BS. You don't need all those services at the same time. The beauty of streaming services is that you can cycle them, binge watch them, and then cancel. If you want to see everything at once, as soon as it comes out, well, that means you're willing to pay the price for it, so don't blame the provider.

Right now I have Netflix, Peacock, and Apple TV (*). Peacock will soon be canceled and replaced by HBO, which will be replaced in a couple of months by CBS.

(*) I got Apple One.
Wait... people pay for 5 or 6 different streaming services? Each with hundreds or thousands of programs?

Who has that much time to watch TV anyway?!?!?

:p
Wait for enough new shows that you WANT to watch for a binge, pay, cancel, binge for a month, wait for enough new shows for another binge, lather, rinse, repeat.

I can see both sides of the TV/film streaming coin....
O1H, I've known whole families who subscribe to 6 to 10 different streaming services at a time. For one of them, they get Hulu (with ads) for free since it's part of a T-Mobile offer. When that expired, they just registered with a different email (the daughter was wondering why she all the sudden had Hulu :D ). When you have 3 to 6 members in a family who are into streaming, it can be difficult to coordinate a yearly schedule where "These months are for HBO Max. The next few after that is Disney+. Our Netflix subscription is until it ends 10 months later, and we'll do Hulu if we can get a discount". It can be money better spent when multiple people are using all the services.

OTOH, I'm by myself, so I don't need to coordinate any variety, and the quantity of content is harder to traverse with just myself. Timewise, I'm in a good place where I can stream stuff, watch others on YouTube, some video gaming, and "essentials" (e.g. work, get enough sleep, exercise, cook, etc.), so I wouldn't want more than a few streaming services at the same time.
Being by myself, I can easily just cycle between services. I'm currently doing AP, Hulu, and Curiosity Stream. AP is "half and half". I hardly buy stuff anymore on Amazon Prime and only kept it for the AP Video portion. However, if my time gets too much of a crunch, I could consider putting this subscription on hold. My $2 a month Hulu promotion is ending. If I can't renew at that rate, I may as well either do $12 a month for with OUT ads (the price difference isn't enough to save the money otherwise), or just mix things up and switch to something say, Disney+ (in the meantime, I can wait for some shows to flesh out). Curiosity Stream is only $20 per year, so I don't mind holding on to that.
 
I asked because the books are just talking and are boring (but worth reading). I haven't watched all the released episodes (watched the first two) and they have much more action than the books even if they have a lot of talking. Unfortunately, the show so far is not great.

The books are just talking. This could be why the show is boring. They should just take the overall message of the book and make something more exciting.
 
Apple has content worth pirating? They certainly don't have content worth subscribing for.

I am watching and enjoying Tv+ as part of Apple One, and there’s a fair bit of content that I am enjoying at the moment.
Every Friday, I get 5 new shows.
1) See
2) Truth be Told
3) Morning Show
4) Ted Lasso
5) Foundation

Enough to make it worth my while for the moment at least.
 
$4.99 a month subscription is a lot less hassle and timed wasted than pirating. Same reason why Steam business model is successful.
 
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The books are just talking. This could be why the show is boring. They should just take the overall message of the book and make something more exciting.
That’s what I was hoping. The show is more exciting than the books but so far has mostly just been bland sci-fi.
 
I don’t know how these piracy sites work, but why does a site like Parler get shut down so swiftly by AWS and the domain registrar, and yet the piracy sites continue to proliferate?

I believe the internet will become regulated at some point. It is, generally speaking, a cesspool. It has been abused to the point where I sometimes forget the good it produced.
They are being shut down fast too, it’s just piracy site owner is very determined and they have ample time and enough of other resources to keep their site online for as long as possible.

And btw, Parler shutdown isnt that fast imo.
 
I think Apple allocated $2B to content creation recently and so did Netflix.

The world should be coming to a movie streaming renaissance in the next couple of years because of the raining money. All video production jobs are running full tilt.

Actually... Netflix is spending $17 billion.

But yes I agree.

:)

 
It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)
Exactly!! It’s ridiculous
 
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Wait for enough new shows that you WANT to watch for a binge, pay, cancel, binge for a month, wait for enough new shows for another binge, lather, rinse, repeat.

But most streaming services are auto renew, so if you don’t explicitly cancel then you are on the hook for another month. The old book and music clubs did the same thing-if you didn’t tell them that you DIDN’T want this month’s selection then you automatically got it. You may only screw up occasionally but take that times a couple of million accounts a month and you are talking a lot of money.
 
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