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It all comes down to sitting at a work desk. People watch any given monitor on their desk from the same distance, no matter the size of the monitor, because a desk has a constant/constrained top area, and people need to have that within physical reach. In this regard desktop monitors are not unlike notebook monitors, which are mostly used at an arm's distance. Also this is the reason why display ppi -- a linear metric, works in the first place. In contrast to TVs, where people can just move their couch back and forth to optimize their view distance, and ppi is not used as a metric at all, as angular resolution is at play with TVs.
True. I wouldn’t be able to significantly increase my viewing distance even if I wanted to, because I’m limited by the depth of my desk.

Thus in my setup, and in the setups of many if not most desktop monitor users, as you said viewing distance is effectively a constant regardless of monitor size.
 
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Base model iMac 24" 4.5K is $1.3k.

Removing $600 worth of Mac mini M4 base model price drops it down to $700.

Remove keyboard and mouse drops price by another $200?

So the display is $500, more or less?

When I decided on the 2025 ASUS 32" 6K display at $1,170 I used math on what's the difference of it vs a $1799 2020 iMac 27" 5K base model.

It left me with $629 for Mac mini, keyboard & mouse.

This is why I prefer iMacs over separates. Among Macs they're cheaper to go AIO.

Agreed. My wife and i have two 2015 27" iMacs at home. We use them everyday.

I reluctantly bought a new 24" iMac at work and paired it with some ugly LG monitor. Big mistake. This setup is an abomination. They shouldn't even make a 24".
 
This is why I prefer iMacs over separates. Among Macs they're cheaper to go AIO.
Yes, hopefully they're reading this.

If they had proper 27" iMacs they could also have 27" 4K matching companion displays.

If they did this we'ed see Macs everywhere again.
 
Agreed. My wife and i have two 2015 27" iMacs at home. We use them everyday.

I reluctantly bought a new 24" iMac at work and paired it with some ugly LG monitor. Big mistake. This setup is an abomination. They shouldn't even make a 24".
This is personal preference and usage
I had a 27’ iMac, bought a 24’ and I love it, perfect size for working on 2 windows side by side, no need to stretch your head. And the 24’ iMac is much lighter and compact. Great design. It’s like a portable desktop !
 
I wouldn't say it's about pixel density, because if fonts on screen seem too small or too large, you can always reduce/enlarge them in the settings (macOS/Windows) or change scaling level (Windows).
Let's take an example. If someone has a Mac Mini and changes their 27-inch 4K monitor (163 dpi) to a 27-inch 5K monitor (218 dpi), they will probably place the new monitor at the same distance as the old one and just adapt macOS settings if necessary. But if they switch to a 32-inch 6K monitor (218 dpi), they're likely to place the monitor a bit farther away than they would have with the 27-inch 5K, even though they're the same dpi.
The reason to get these monitors is to have large working areas with as much detail as possible to be able to read the small text and see the small line. Enlarging the text reduces how much you can have on the screen at a time. When you are working with side-by-side documents, that is the last thing you want.

If you move the monitor further away, you end up reducing the dpi and your ability to see those small details. This is not about watching a video from across the living room. These are working screens for reading and editing text, images, etc.
 
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Thank you. What is the stand you got for it, please?


The TFT Central review of the LG 6K is here:


And my experience with it begins on October 29 in the same thread.

Overall I think it’s a very good monitor, but I ended up buying a new aluminum stand for it. The stock LG stand looks nice and is height adjustable but doesn’t go very low. It’s good for tall users but not shorter people like myself.
 
It's fine that Apple sells a super premium monitor (not that I can tell the difference from my 27" 2015 imac), but how is this the only option from Apple when every other product is tiered for a variety consumers?

Apple should sell pretty 27" 4K 120 Hz displays for $699 so nearly everyone can have one or two displays for their macbooks and mac minis. They would sell like crazy.

It's ridiculous that the majority of mac users have to buy LG, ACER, Samsung and Dell displays or spend $1500+ for a display.

And what is the 24" iMac? A iMac for ants?
Looking at the quality of macOS 26, I don't think the Mac is top of their list generally at the moment.

It should be trivial for a company with Apple's resource to support a range of quality screens for their user base and they really just don't care enough. Like, Dell and LG support basically too many models but they will meet customers where they are.

Apple can't even keep 2 models up to date, though I feel like they should at least do the range of 24, 27, 30/32 (?). Particularly given the iMac is 24 already. 3 Models, not 30 like Dell.
 
This is why I prefer iMacs over separates. Among Macs they're cheaper to go AIO.

Yeah, but sitting here with a 2017 Intel iMac -- the screen is still fantastic. Would be great if I could just wire up a new Mac mini or Studio and avoid some e-Waste and prolong the life of things I paid for that are rapidly approaching a value of $0
 
Yeah, but sitting here with a 2017 Intel iMac -- the screen is still fantastic. Would be great if I could just wire up a new Mac mini or Studio and avoid some e-Waste and prolong the life of things I paid for that are rapidly approaching a value of $0
I came from a 2012 iMac 27" 2.5K and moved onto a 2025 ASUS 32" 6K display. This is driven by a 2019 MBP 16" as I'm waiting for a Mac mini M5 that will likely be out before WWDC 2026.

After over a dozen years use it's worth upgrading from.

Your 2017 iMac 27" 5K will likely be worth replacing after a decade's use?

But I get what you mean and wished that Target Display Mode was the norm since 2009 & onwards.
 
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Yes, hopefully they're reading this.

If they had proper 27" iMacs they could also have 27" 4K matching companion displays.

If they did this we'ed see Macs everywhere again.
iMac 27" were either 2.5K or 5K.

I can live with a 32" 3K display over a 32" 6K display.
 
Agreed. My wife and i have two 2015 27" iMacs at home. We use them everyday.

I reluctantly bought a new 24" iMac at work and paired it with some ugly LG monitor. Big mistake. This setup is an abomination. They shouldn't even make a 24".
I refused to get any of the iMac 24" 4.5K as the display size is too tiny. Wrong move of Apple not to offer 24" 4.5K displays at about $500.
 
Looks great, is it as solid as it looks on the video? Happy with it?
My full review of the stand is here:


The pieces are indeed thick solid aluminum and very well built. However, since it's a rotating mechanism, there is a bit of rotational play, so if your table isn't completely solid then it can wobble a bit. However, that is not a significant issue for me since my table is quite stable.

The tilt mechanism is a bit stiff but otherwise it works fine. Height adjustment works well and it seems well balanced for this 6 kg monitor.
 
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The reason to get these monitors is to have large working areas with as much detail as possible to be able to read the small text and see the small line. Enlarging the text reduces how much you can have on the screen at a time. When you are working with side-by-side documents, that is the last thing you want.

If you move the monitor further away, you end up reducing the dpi and your ability to see those small details. This is not about watching a video from across the living room. These are working screens for reading and editing text, images, etc.
I understand your point. I myself progressively switched from 17-inch monitors in the 1990s to 27-inch today. I love it and wouldn't go back. But what I meant is that, as you get larger and larger screens, there comes a point where you have to push the monitor a bit farther away if you want to keep viewing the whole screen without having to move your head. At that point, getting a larger screen becomes useless.
 
I myself progressively switched from 17-inch monitors in the 1990s to 27-inch today. I love it and wouldn't go back. But what I meant is that, as you get larger and larger screens, there comes a point where you have to push the monitor a bit farther away if you want to keep viewing the whole screen without having to move your head. At that point, getting a larger screen becomes useless.
That point is not at 32”. It’s easy and comfortable to use a 32” monitor at the same viewing distance as a 27” monitor.

I suspect that’s partially why there are a half dozen different 6K 32” 16:9 monitors available on the market now.

However, since I am short, one issue I had with some 32” 16:9 monitors is the height, not the width. That was easily solved though with a new stand that brings the height of my 32” 16:9 screen to 20”. At that height the screen still is 3.75” above the table, which fits beautifully with lots of clearance over my 2.0” tall M4 Mac mini.
 
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I understand your point. I myself progressively switched from 17-inch monitors in the 1990s to 27-inch today. I love it and wouldn't go back. But what I meant is that, as you get larger and larger screens, there comes a point where you have to push the monitor a bit farther away if you want to keep viewing the whole screen without having to move your head. At that point, getting a larger screen becomes useless.
That point is not at 32”. It’s easy and comfortable to use a 32” monitor at the same viewing distance as a 27” monitor.

I suspect that’s partially why there are a half dozen different 6K 32” 16:9 monitors available on the market now.

However, since I am short, one issue I had with some 32” 16:9 monitors is the height, not the width. That was easily solved though with a new stand that brings the height of my 32” 16:9 screen to 20”. At that height the screen still is 3.75” above the table, which fits beautifully with lots of clearance over my 2.0” tall M4 Mac mini.
Jeeve & EugW, there is an advantage of having to have different display sizes requiring various viewing distance.

It forces your eyes to have dynamic viewing distances and doesn't make your eyes get stuck at X focus distance.

That's a reason why TW govt require their school kids to go outdoors during the school day and look at far objects in higher lux outdoor environment that is lacking indoors.

It helped reduce nearsightedness in countries that had that program.

Like I have difficulty reading my Apple Watch on my wrist before I got my 32" 6K display but now it is somewhat improving.
 
That point is not at 32”. It’s easy and comfortable to use a 32” monitor at the same viewing distance as a 27” monitor.

I suspect that’s partially why there are a half dozen different 6K 32” 16:9 monitors available on the market now.

However, since I am short, one issue I had with some 32” 16:9 monitors is the height, not the width. That was easily solved though with a new stand that brings the height of my 32” 16:9 screen to 20”. At that height the screen still is 3.75” above the table, which fits beautifully with lots of clearance over my 2.0” tall M4 Mac mini.
Yes, you're right, that's also an issue. They say that, ideally, one's eyes should be at the same height as the top of the screen for best viewing comfort. That's the case with my 27-inch, provided I keep a straight posture and lower my screen as much as possible (about 3 inches from the desk). With a 32-inch monitor… I don't know. Maybe if the screen was placed directly on my desk. But stands usually don't allow this, so I would have to take it off its stand and prop it against something. A bit awkward.
 
Jeeve & EugW, there is an advantage of having to have different display sizes requiring various viewing distance.

It forces your eyes to have dynamic viewing distances and doesn't make your eyes get stuck at X focus distance.

That's a reason why TW govt require their school kids to go outdoors during the school day and look at far objects in higher lux outdoor environment that is lacking indoors.

It helped reduce nearsightedness in countries that had that program.

Like I have difficulty reading my Apple Watch on my wrist before I got my 32" 6K display but now it is somewhat improving.
You know what, I've been near-sighted since 15, and far-sighted since 45. So I have to place my screen at exactly a certain distance for optimal results. Terrible… I'm planning on getting a laser operation next year.
 
You know what, I've been near-sighted since 15, and far-sighted since 45. So I have to place my screen at exactly a certain distance for optimal results. Terrible… I'm planning on getting a laser operation next year.
Specific to my personal experience.

If I sleep early and longer.

While indoors spend some time on a 65", 32", 27", 16", 11", 6.7" and 46mm displays my eyes somewhat improve.

It helps further when I look outdoors & be outdoors and focus on far away objects.

I observe nominal improve over time.

Eating clean also helps with any blood chemistry or pressure concern impacting the eye system.
 
Yes, you're right, that's also an issue. They say that, ideally, one's eyes should be at the same height as the top of the screen for best viewing comfort. That's the case with my 27-inch, provided I keep a straight posture and lower my screen as much as possible (about 3 inches from the desk). With a 32-inch monitor… I don't know. Maybe if the screen was placed directly on my desk. But stands usually don't allow this, so I would have to take it off its stand and prop it against something. A bit awkward.
That is one big reason why 34" ultrawide monitors are popular. Unfortunately, the best ones so far are only 163 ppi at 5120x2160. My holy grail would be something like 6208x2619 / 198 ppi, but I'd also take something like 6720x2835 / 215 ppi.

BTW, the top of the viewing area of my 31.5" 6144x3456 monitor with the new aftermarket stand is at about 19.7". The top of the bezel is at 20.1".

The top of the viewing area of my 27" iMac is at about 19.3", so only about 1 cm below the top of the viewing area on my 31.5" 6K monitor. The iMac's bezel is significantly larger though so the top of the iMac is at about 20.3", which actually makes it taller than my 31.5" 6K monitor.

There are other stands that will go even lower, but they generally don't look as nice. This is my aftermarket all aluminum stand. At its lowest setting, as mentioned it pairs really well with the M4 Mac mini. However, at that lowest setting it would be a little too low for comfort for the Mac Studio, since the Mac Studio is significantly taller. I suspect that is one reason why the 32" Apple Pro Display XDR is somewhat taller at 21" - to provide more clearance at the lowest setting for the Mac Studio.

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You know what, I've been near-sighted since 15, and far-sighted since 45. So I have to place my screen at exactly a certain distance for optimal results. Terrible… I'm planning on getting a laser operation next year.
Are you talking about presbyopia? If so, you can get computer glasses for that, but they do provide a small range of viewing distances. You usually don't need to have an exact distance because even with presbyopia your eyes can still partially focus.
 
Jeeve & EugW, there is an advantage of having to have different display sizes requiring various viewing distance.

It forces your eyes to have dynamic viewing distances and doesn't make your eyes get stuck at X focus distance.

That's a reason why TW govt require their school kids to go outdoors during the school day and look at far objects in higher lux outdoor environment that is lacking indoors.

It helped reduce nearsightedness in countries that had that program.

Like I have difficulty reading my Apple Watch on my wrist before I got my 32" 6K display but now it is somewhat improving.
Yes, not always staring at a screen, especially for kids, is a good thing. Artificially pushing a monitor a little further away will not address that. It can’t go far enough away to make a difference and still be able to read the text on it or do anything. This is not a TV where there is one low resolution activity at a time and where the added distance has little impact.

From the most recent article I recall on the near sightedness issue, the important factor was kids getting bright light from outside, not that they were focusing on nearby screens. That was a lesser factor.
 
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